Super Rugby Round One: Reds vs Waratahs. Suncorp Feb 24
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KOB1987
John Eales (66)
Yes I was angry about it because the punishment didn’t fit the crime, that doesn’t make it misdirected. Calling a person dodgy is derogatory, with respect to a decision it just means it was 50/50. The TMO did what he/she had to based on their determination, it was the determination that was dodgy, it could have gone either way.
Adam84
Rod McCall (65)
Yeah, agreed
Lol nah man, by the rule book it couldn’t have gone either way. Jorgensen touched him before he had the ball, by the rules it was 100% correct decision.
If you’re arguing the punishment for touching him before he received the ball was excessive then absolutely I agree, but that’s a different discussion and is about WR (World Rugby) and the rules, not officials doing their job.
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Wilson
Phil Kearns (64)
Just finished my rewatch after having been there, a few more thoughts:
For the Reds:
- I thought Hodgman did some really good solid work around the ground, particularly on the carry, he's a real bonus for us this year.
- Paisami just looks so bloody ready for it this year, it's great to see.
- The McReight, Wilson, McDermott link just keeps getting better. It's great having Wright back out there too, I think he really frees up the others to play their natural game.
- Both 10s were great, Lynagh's kicking and control wins out for me. That said, I do think we might see them swap the start occasionally so McLaughlin-Phillips can take advantage of fresher runners and Lynagh can close things out with his control.
- Was more visible in the stadium but it was good to see the bodies in motion and second line with Tate often dropping in as a the playmaker for it. It wasn't as consistent as it needs to be but it's clearly something they're building.
- Maul was an absolute weapon, it looks well formed but the tahs defence was also poor, so we'll have to wait and see how strong it is.
- We switched off a bit too often, particularly after we built a lead in the second half. 1st round and the conditions probably played a role, but we can't afford that against the top teams.
- Mixed game from Petaia - dangerous with ball in hand, but isolated too often. Caught out in defence at fullback but kicked brilliantly, particularly the return with interest on the fly around 62 minutes. Needs to be out there but I still think wing is the spot for him with Campbell at fullback.
- Loved all the shots of Les Kiss in the booth, seemed really energized and it's hard not to like him. That said it's probably easy to show well when your team opens the season with that performance. The way Tate talked about him in the post match suggests the players have really bought in and embraced him too.
For the tahs:
- As previously mentioned the kicking was horrible, but the one exception to that was Walton - he kicked well with low stabs through to take advantage of the wet, skidding turf, similar to what the Reds were doing. He was looking a million times better at centre than fullback.
- Holloway was an absolute pest in the way you want from a lock, really found the balance well. Unfortunately the lineout and maul defence was poor, which he bears some responsibility for.
- Very mixed game from Nawaqanitawase - a good intercept for a try and turnover on the line, but his other flashy moments were followed by bad errors - A classy kick dummy into a shanked kick to give the Reds good field position and an athletic bat back to keep a 50/22 in field only to leave Jorgensen swamped in goal for a 5m scrum. It was shades of his play a few years ago, exciting but frustratingly incomplete.
- I thought Pietsch was very solid, but really needs to improve his finishing/decision making near the line. Seems ridiculous to say for a guy with a brace to his name, but he very nearly botched the 2nd throwing a pass that should never been thrown and getting a lucky rebound.
- Really going to need guys like Gleeson to stand up if the tahs are to lift this season. The carries just didn't have the penetration or venom of the Reds last night and they tended to run straight into the teeth of the defence and get stopped in their tracks.
- There were sparks there for the tahs, particularity when Wilson came on and lifted the pace. If Gordon can't find his form decisions might need to be made sooner rather than later.
For the Reds:
- I thought Hodgman did some really good solid work around the ground, particularly on the carry, he's a real bonus for us this year.
- Paisami just looks so bloody ready for it this year, it's great to see.
- The McReight, Wilson, McDermott link just keeps getting better. It's great having Wright back out there too, I think he really frees up the others to play their natural game.
- Both 10s were great, Lynagh's kicking and control wins out for me. That said, I do think we might see them swap the start occasionally so McLaughlin-Phillips can take advantage of fresher runners and Lynagh can close things out with his control.
- Was more visible in the stadium but it was good to see the bodies in motion and second line with Tate often dropping in as a the playmaker for it. It wasn't as consistent as it needs to be but it's clearly something they're building.
- Maul was an absolute weapon, it looks well formed but the tahs defence was also poor, so we'll have to wait and see how strong it is.
- We switched off a bit too often, particularly after we built a lead in the second half. 1st round and the conditions probably played a role, but we can't afford that against the top teams.
- Mixed game from Petaia - dangerous with ball in hand, but isolated too often. Caught out in defence at fullback but kicked brilliantly, particularly the return with interest on the fly around 62 minutes. Needs to be out there but I still think wing is the spot for him with Campbell at fullback.
- Loved all the shots of Les Kiss in the booth, seemed really energized and it's hard not to like him. That said it's probably easy to show well when your team opens the season with that performance. The way Tate talked about him in the post match suggests the players have really bought in and embraced him too.
For the tahs:
- As previously mentioned the kicking was horrible, but the one exception to that was Walton - he kicked well with low stabs through to take advantage of the wet, skidding turf, similar to what the Reds were doing. He was looking a million times better at centre than fullback.
- Holloway was an absolute pest in the way you want from a lock, really found the balance well. Unfortunately the lineout and maul defence was poor, which he bears some responsibility for.
- Very mixed game from Nawaqanitawase - a good intercept for a try and turnover on the line, but his other flashy moments were followed by bad errors - A classy kick dummy into a shanked kick to give the Reds good field position and an athletic bat back to keep a 50/22 in field only to leave Jorgensen swamped in goal for a 5m scrum. It was shades of his play a few years ago, exciting but frustratingly incomplete.
- I thought Pietsch was very solid, but really needs to improve his finishing/decision making near the line. Seems ridiculous to say for a guy with a brace to his name, but he very nearly botched the 2nd throwing a pass that should never been thrown and getting a lucky rebound.
- Really going to need guys like Gleeson to stand up if the tahs are to lift this season. The carries just didn't have the penetration or venom of the Reds last night and they tended to run straight into the teeth of the defence and get stopped in their tracks.
- There were sparks there for the tahs, particularity when Wilson came on and lifted the pace. If Gordon can't find his form decisions might need to be made sooner rather than later.
KOB1987
John Eales (66)
This is essentially what I’ve been raging about. If it makes you feel better just sub in 50/50 wherever you see me say dodgy.
TSR
Andrew Slack (58)
I am intrigued with all the talk of refereeing decisions - am I the only one who thinks we dodged a bullet with Paisami’s head clash with Perese. I thought it was relatively clear, and most likely a red, but I haven’t seen anyone else mention it. Everyone else thought it was okay, I assume?
Wilson
Phil Kearns (64)
I don't think there's any issue there. I didn't notice it at the ground so made a point to pay attention when watching the replay. The angle's could be clearer, but to me it was reasonably clear on the slow motion replay that Perese's head snaps forward first and then back - the "whiplash effect" indicating that there wasn't initial head on head contact, much the same as Koroibete on Jelonch a few years ago which was overturned at the judiciary. Maybe other angles would tell a different story but there's no issue from what I've seen.
I do think Paisami will need to be careful with his height going forward though.
dru
David Wilson (68)
TSR
Andrew Slack (58)
McReight - by a long way.
But in my personal opinion McReight has always been far the better player. Gamble is a decent player and has his followers - good luck to him. But McReight is a class above IMO.
It started forward, it ended forward. It was forward.
Ah, so you'd like to implement a different set of laws for the Waratahs. Gotcha.
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The Queensland Reds scored a 40 - 22 win over traditional rivals the NSW Waratahs at Suncorp Stadium in Round 1 of the 2024 Super Rugby Pacific.Queensland Reds 40 (Tries: Matt Faessler 2, Fraser McReight, Hunter Paisami, Tate McDermott, penalty try; Conversions: Tom Lynagh 2, Harry...
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Ref_Ted
Ward Prentice (10)
I would love to see a Matt Burke law just for the Tahs.
If you cannot catch your own box kick, no box kicking for you!