Super Rugby 2023 QF: Chiefs v Reds

[waiopehu oldboy]

14:35 AEST Saturday 10 June - FMG Stadium, Hamilton

With three QF in NZ someone was always gunna get the shifty Edit: shitty timeslot but I'm guessing there's gunna be a lot of Reds & Oz-based Tribe supporters with school and/ or club sports commitments so maybe they could've swapped this with CruSadists v Drua.

 

[Wilson]

Chiefs quaking in there boots here, after they were put in there place by the Reds during the regular season the whole squad must be at a loss for what to do here. No-one can deny they've had a good run this year and there's no shame in loosing to a better side, hopefully they're not too hard on themselves when the inevitable happens.

 

[Fireworks]

Hopefully someone's told Harry Wilson after the Drua game to hold on to the ball if the pass/offload isn't on. Reds will need to have more composure if they end up having to chase the game.

 

[Sword of Justice]

I really wish we hadn't made the finals. Compulsively I will watch, I will get my hopes up and I will be pissed off when those hopes are driven straight into the molten core of the earth.

But maybe we have a chance...

 

[emuarse]

I really wish we hadn't made the finals. Compulsively I will watch, I will get my hopes up and I will be pissed off when those hopes are driven straight into the molten core of the earth.

But maybe we have a chance...

Our chances would improve if for once we got an Aussi ref and assistants who can also see the many little infringements that the Chiefs will make.

 

[redstragic]

If it i

I really wish we hadn't made the finals. Compulsively I will watch, I will get my hopes up and I will be pissed off when those hopes are driven straight into the molten core of the earth.

But maybe we have a chance...

If it is any help, you may not need to watch too long for the game to be effectively over.......but maybe, just maybe we can come back??

 

[Wilson]

Looks like Paisami might be out again:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1666311611865522176

Unfortunate to lose him, but we've probably looked out best this year playing 10 Lynagh, 12 O'Connor, 13 Flook.

 

[PhilClinton]

Yeh Paisami will have his defenders because he's a solid performer and has been okay in gold.

But I really don't see his omission as a crucial factor in whether or not the Reds win this game. And that is telling. You'd think missing any 'current' Wallaby would be a huge loss to any team looking to topple a giant, but he definitely doesn't give off those vibes at the moment.

I'd be much more concerned if Flook/JOC (James O'Connor) were out.

 

[Wilson]

Yeh Paisami will have his defenders because he's a solid performer and has been okay in gold.

But I really don't see his omission as a crucial factor in whether or not the Reds win this game. And that is telling. You'd think missing any 'current' Wallaby would be a huge loss to any team looking to topple a giant, but he definitely doesn't give off those vibes at the moment.

I'd be much more concerned if Flook/JOC (James O'Connor) (James O'Connor) were out.

I'd still rather have Paisami there, but playing at 13 with Flook on the wing. That would make for our most controlled backline with good kicking options throughout to play the sort of controlled, territory based game we built the win off of last time. I think the only reason his ommission doesn't feel crucial is that he's only a game and half back from a long injury and still finding his game again. I did think he was one of our best against the Drua, but that's not necessarily saying much.

 

[Wilson]

REDS (1-15): Peni Ravai, Matt Faessler, Sef Fa'agase, Angus Blyth, Ryan Smith, Seru Uru, Fraser McReight, Harry Wilson, Tate McDermott (c), Tom Lynagh, Josh Flook, James O'Connor, Filipo Daugunu, Suliasi Vunivalu, Jock Campbell

RESERVES: Richie Asiata, Dane Zander, Zane Nonggorr, Lopeti Faifua, Jake Upfield, Kalani Thomas, Lawson Creighton, Taj Annan

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1666626607359102976

Daugunu back to 13 is interesting, he probably played his best game this year there against the chiefs.

 

[Wilson]

CHIEFS (1-15): Aidan Ross, Samisoni Taukei'aho, John Ryan, Brodie Retallick, Josh Lord, Samipeni Finau, Sam Cane (co-c) Luke Jacobson, Brad Weber (co-c), Damian McKenzie, Etene Nanai-Seturo, Rameka Poihipi, Anton Lienert-Brown, Emoni Narawa, Shaun Stevenson

RESERVES: Bradley Slater, Ollie Norris, George Dyer, Naitoa Ah Kuoi, Samipeni Finau, Cortez Ratima, Josh Ioane, Daniel Rona

 

[Wilson]

At least 10 changes to the starting 15, absolute panic stations for the Chiefs there. How can they hope to get over the mighty Reds with such low cohesion week to week?

In all seriousness, I have seen a few teams falter the week after resting this year, in the same way a bye can break their flow. I doubt it'd be anywhere near enough to put the Chiefs off their game for a finals match, but it may take them a bit of time to play themselves into the game. If we can take advantage and put a good start in that'll go a long way to transferring the confidence from the previous win.

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

REDS (1-15): Peni Ravai, Matt Faessler, Sef Fa'agase, Angus Blyth, Ryan Smith, Seru Uru, Fraser McReight, Harry Wilson, Tate McDermott (c), Tom Lynagh, Josh Flook, James O'Connor, Filipo Daugunu, Suliasi Vunivalu, Jock Campbell

RESERVES: Richie Asiata, Dane Zander, Zane Nonggorr, Lopeti Faifua, Jake Upfield, Kalani Thomas, Lawson Creighton, Taj Annan

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1666626607359102976

Daugunu back to 13 is interesting, he probably played his best game this year there against the chiefs.

Looking at that team, the bench is really disappointing and I don't expect it to be able to maintain or up the ante if required. I will say I've been critical of Annan this year in Super Rugby but he had a really strong game at 12 in the U20s v NZ. I know it's a different level but the more games in the Centres he plays the better his defence will get.

 

[Wilson]

Looking at that team, the bench is really disappointing and I don't expect it to be able to maintain or up the ante if required. I will say I've been critical of Annan this year in Super Rugby but he had a really strong game at 12 in the U20s v NZ. I know it's a different level but the more games in the Centres he plays the better his defence will get.

He did have his worst defensive game as a last minute replacement at 13, which is a pretty different defensive proposition to 12 where he has been playing for a season or two now. Might depend on where he slots in when/if he comes on.

 

[Ignoto]

I can see us being competitive until the 50th minute mark and then get absolutely smoked when the bench of both teams start coming on.

The Reds bench average age has to be close to 21/22?

 

[Dan54]

At least 10 changes to the starting 15, absolute panic stations for the Chiefs there. How can they hope to get over the mighty Reds with such low cohesion week to week?

And last time the Reds played real shit, they beat Chiefs the next week?

Once again being serious, I like your attitude Wilson, not being too pessimistic etc, as I don't think supporters ever should be even when being underdog, never let the opposition supporters feel to comfortable!

 

[Misunderstood fan]

REDS (1-15): Peni Ravai, Matt Faessler, Sef Fa'agase, Angus Blyth, Ryan Smith, Seru Uru, Fraser McReight, Harry Wilson, Tate McDermott (c), Tom Lynagh, Josh Flook, James O'Connor, Filipo Daugunu, Suliasi Vunivalu, Jock Campbell

RESERVES: Richie Asiata, Dane Zander, Zane Nonggorr, Lopeti Faifua, Jake Upfield, Kalani Thomas, Lawson Creighton, Taj Annan

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1666626607359102976

Daugunu back to 13 is interesting, he probably played his best game this year there against the chiefs.

I like this team. Flook is more dangerous on the wing, and 10. Lynagh and 12. JOC (James O'Connor) is what should have happened all year.

 

[RugbyReg]

any theories on the swap of Flook and Daugunu?

 

[LeCheese]

any theories on the swap of Flook and Daugunu?

Daugunu was a bit of a liability last week, and looked pretty solid at 13. Flook will be solid anywhere.

I’m not 100% sure I understand it, but that’s the best I got.

 

[dru]

I'm not at all sure of Daugunu in the centres. He has the body for it and has apparently been OK previously. Hopefully Flook get's a "roving" commission.