Subbies 2023!

[Heavyd]

I think you’ll find the Newport promotion argument is academic as they did not apply. Like many clubs, once the new season rolls around and you learn of retirements, players leaving and the like you realise that the preceding year isn’t always a good indicator of the year ahead!

I don’t quite understand why Subbies didn’t just relegate Drummoyne (or Petersham). In recent times, both St Pat’s and Hunters Hill have been relegated, which has seemingly been to their benefit as they have rebuilt themselves to be sustainable Division 1 clubs.

Easy from the cheap sheets though - Drummoyne may well prove us wrong and 2022 was only a minor hiccup!

Because its an old boys network and the "elite' clubs get preference, some times to their detriment. i.e Knox stayed 3 years too long due to "special consideration" and will most likely end up rebuilding in Div 4 for a few years.

 

[Pfitzy]

Fair enough. Assuming that's all valid (no reason not to), why not go the other way and take newport, who applied to go up?

Potentially makes Division 2 more palatable for those currently looking to avoid at all costs.

My mail is they went a bit quiet on that idea as there was some uncertainty towards the end of 2022 - maybe not having regular 4th grade competition hurt numbers?

 

[Pfitzy]

The Harbour thing is difficult. They'd probably be a big shout of winning the comp in Div 2, but 2 Grades and no colts up there just because they are beating everyone doesn't work either.

They don't have two grades, in effect - East's 5th Grade were their second slot. Although all the Beasties registered under Harbour, no crossover between the two squads. While Harbour's 1st grade team would give Barraclough a shake, I don't think those Easties would be as happy against 2nd Grade for Newport etc as they were against clubs like ours!

Most clubs with Harbour's record would be holding potential recruits off with a stick!

 

[Pfitzy]

10 club Div 1 if newport are too strong this season?

18 rounds for 2024 - while there isn't a RWC hard-stop to consider, it is a long season for guys who have had 14 for basically the last decade.

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

18 rounds is absurd.

With the long weekend and if you end up playing finals could be 22 weeks. Fuck no. Sorry but I don't love playing that much anymore when it's park footy.

 

[HogansHeros]

Yeah I was taking the piss a bit, saying if a team is too strong they move to Div 1 but no one to come down.

 

[Eastcoast]

They don't have two grades, in effect - East's 5th Grade were their second slot. Although all the Beasties registered under Harbour, no crossover between the two squads. While Harbour's 1st grade team would give Barraclough a shake, I don't think those Easties would be as happy against 2nd Grade for Newport etc as they were against clubs like ours!

Most clubs with Harbour's record would be holding potential recruits off with a stick!

Id hope Barraclough has remained strong enough to work Oysters over comfortably. Last years final series they scored 17 and 13 points. That wont cut it in Barraclough - Even in Clarke you would find teams wouldnt be phased by a team who only scores 1-2 tries a game.

 

[Waterloo_Ned]

We were asked to go up to Division 2 again today.

No thanks.

 

[HogansHeros]

We were asked to go up to Division 2 again today.

No thanks.

Who is we, for those not in the loop?

 

[The ultimate ressie]

Personally I wish their was a way to see who is affiliated with what club
So much guessing

 

[Denistone_Dennis]

Someone is gonna have to blink. My mail is a 6-team Div 2 won't be happening.

 

[WoodyWoodsman]

Good thing we have Division 1 settled with a 9 club competition. Imagine the drama if we had gone with 8....

 

[Pfitzy]

Who is we, for those not in the loop?

Sydney Harlequins I believe.

 

[Mangoman]

Posted just a few hours ago…

Good to see them make a push at a come back, fingers crossed they get the numbers to field a team this season

 

[Waterloo_Ned]

Who is we, for those not in the loop?

Harlequins.

 

[Waterloo_Ned]

Sydney Harlequins I believe.

Pfitzy. Who will take the last spot in Division 2 in your opinion? And if a team moves up from Division 3, who will come up from Division 4?

 

[Pfitzy]

Pfitzy. Who will take the last spot in Division 2 in your opinion? And if a team moves up from Division 3, who will come up from Division 4?

Depends what you mean by last spot - who have you got in which division at the moment?

 

[WoodyWoodsman]

With division 1 set, the assumed clubs in division 2 are Newport, UNSW, Lindfield, Hills, Hawkesbury Valley and Briars.
Bubble clubs: Epping, Beecroft, Harlequins, Barker, Knox
Remaining Division 3: Manly Savers, Sydney Harbour, Iggies.
My understanding is that 3 of the bubble clubs are against the idea of being in division 2, however, I’ll not name them.

 

[Clark Cup Karen]

Laughable if barker are even in the discussion for division two with only half the required teams, managers will be called!

 

[Doritos Day]

Fingers crossed the division stuff is sorted soon so more interesting content can come to the fore. Going round in circles here.