Pfitzy
Nathan Sharpe (72)
That's what I saw.
If you can't find the game video on NSWRugby.tv you're not looking very hard....
Subbies 2023!
- Thread starter Pfitzy
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That's what I saw.
If you can't find the game video on NSWRugby.tv you're not looking very hard....
TheBigArvo
Larry Dwyer (12)
On the app the link is there but there’s no footage of either the 1s or 2s colts x it just loops Stream starting soon. Which normally occurs when they’ve taken it down.
Maybe I’m looking in the wrong spot if others can see it.
21mm
Allen Oxlade (6)
Pfitzy
Nathan Sharpe (72)
I've had that a few times when using the app either on my phone/tablet or on the ChromeCast.
Best bet is to uninstall it and use your browser.
Heavyd
Arch Winning (36)
its actually not that exciting
TheBigArvo
Larry Dwyer (12)
Thanks everyone. The app has been shithouse all year.
LRUsoldier
Allen Oxlade (6)
Easts need to identify the player who started it and the SRU needs to ban him from games for a year. That’s a real low point in the year.
The Waverley Walrus
Stan Wickham (3)
Lindfield supporters are the disgrace of div2 - fortunately you won’t have much to cheer about next year.
LRUsoldier
Allen Oxlade (6)
Sorry for having standards on player behaviour.
The Wombat
Chris McKivat (8)
Div 1 tips
5th Grade
Waverley v Mosman - The Whales to make it 6 in a row.
4th Grade
Mosman v Waverley - Mosman to finish off an undefeated season.
3rd Grade
Waverley v Colleagues - Waverley have been the form team and will have too much strike power for Colleagues.
Colts
Forest v Colleagues - Both are good teams and this will be close but Colleagues have looked strong to finish the season with all of their holidayers back.
2nd Grade
Colleagues v Drummoyne - Colleagues won both encounters this year. Drummoyne are dangerous but Colleagues will control the game.
1st grade
Blue Mountains vs Hunters Hill - The main event of Subbies rugby. Winning the Kentwell is a true accomplishment and will be a big deal for either team. Blue Mountains have never won it while Hunters last won it in 1997. Hunters will be hungry after losing the Grand Final last year but they had a bruising encounter with Waverley on the weekend and will lose a close one to a Blue Mountains team that is peaking at the right time.
5th Grade
Waverley v Mosman - The Whales to make it 6 in a row.
4th Grade
Mosman v Waverley - Mosman to finish off an undefeated season.
3rd Grade
Waverley v Colleagues - Waverley have been the form team and will have too much strike power for Colleagues.
Colts
Forest v Colleagues - Both are good teams and this will be close but Colleagues have looked strong to finish the season with all of their holidayers back.
2nd Grade
Colleagues v Drummoyne - Colleagues won both encounters this year. Drummoyne are dangerous but Colleagues will control the game.
1st grade
Blue Mountains vs Hunters Hill - The main event of Subbies rugby. Winning the Kentwell is a true accomplishment and will be a big deal for either team. Blue Mountains have never won it while Hunters last won it in 1997. Hunters will be hungry after losing the Grand Final last year but they had a bruising encounter with Waverley on the weekend and will lose a close one to a Blue Mountains team that is peaking at the right time.
Eastcoast
Bill Watson (15)
Good from you Wombat!
Not sure about the Kentwell tip though!
Ill get the tips in Friday morning
21mm
Allen Oxlade (6)
Lets just hope you can get a colts side on the field first hey? Not much cheering during forfeits.
Glass houses.
Champagne Rugby
Frank Nicholson (4)
Division 3 Summary 2023
Beecroft 1886 points - 1st Grade (2nd), 2nd Grade (1st) Colts (3rd)
The club champions of the division will be happy to walk away with open trophy but will be ruing not coming away with at least one more. The 1st grade side looked unbeatable in the first half of the seasons before Europe season and injuries shook that image. They were up their all season and only lost the GF after the bell to the only side in the comp that could rival them in Oysters. Having a 2nd grade win the division who is a very nice achievement when your 1st grade makes the grand final and shows the depth the club is starting to produce. The colts had some very classy backs and and solid pack and were strong throughout the year. What is promising for Beecroft is their colts have been playing in the finals series for at least 5 years and this has started flowing through to the grades. A club which is on the rise and should be competitive although probably not dominant in div 2.
Knox 1412 - 1st Grade (4th), 2nd grade (5th), Colts (2nd)
Will be happy to finish 2nd as club champions but disappointed they couldn't do more then that. Their 1st grade started slow but were really building nicely before a upset 1st round loss in the quarter finals. Their 2nd grade should have been playing finals football but late end of seasons forfeits changed that and is a worrying sign for the club that they are struggling to maintain players. Similar to last year their colts are their strong points and will be heart broken they couldn't convert their minor premiership into a gf win, if they can convert their colts into grade players then it will be a bright future, but the colts seem very separate to the rest of the club and their was not a lot of backing up. Hopefully the colts stay and hopefully the more positive results should keep players around for another crack at whatever div 3 looks like.
Sydney harbour 1210- 1st grade (1st), Eastern Suburbs 5ths 2nd grade (2nd), Gordon Colts (5th) (no idea how cc points worked with them)
They posses a dominant 1st grade team, that can attack like no other and they put cricket scores on other clubs, the only problem is that is the extent of Sydney oysters. Their 2nd grade side is easts 5ths and their colts is Gordon. They are putting subbies in a tricky spot can you promote a a one club team and then try and fill the other grades and colts which is hard or do you keep them in the same division and let them continue to beat everybody. Would love to see them try and put a 2nd grade club on although am cautious of this as its not very successful, otherwise Div 3 might be their celling for the time being.
Sydney Harlequins 1158 1st grade (3rd), 2nd grade (3rd), Colts (Eastern Suburbs 1st)
1st grade was strong and did well to make the semi-final however we always a class below the top 2, the same can be said about 2nd grade with both sides suffering decisive losses in the preliminary final. Harlequins however did have their moments including beating Beecroft in 1st grade and were tied in 2nd grade at half time in the PF, so they were clearly have talent, if they can elevate a little bit they can win the division next year, and with Beecroft possibly gone they should push their way to the grand final in 2 grades. The player depth is their as they have numbers, would love to see them find a colts team though.
Old barker 926 1st Grade (5th), 2nd grade (4th), Colts (7th).
It was a regressive year for the BOBS, their 1st grade were respectable in 2nd div last year making the finals and this year in an easier division they failed to do so. Their 2nd grade came fourth but this achievement should be placed in the context of they were the best team to not forfeit multiple games this years, they never really looked threat. Their colts as has been the case for the past few years have struggled and since this has happened the club has only been moving backwards. In what should have been a good division for them with local rivals in the form of Knox, iggies and closely located beecroft, I thought an improvement would have been on the cards. However applause must be given to the boys from Hornsby for fulling their divisional requirements week in and week out.
Old Iggies 262 1st grade (6th), 2nd grade (6th), colts (7th)
A year to forget and the sooner the better, because if they don't there will be no team next year for this club. The seasons started so promising with wins against Knox and then just went downhill from their with the club only fielding 1st grade by the end of the year, and the 1st grade side was getting trounced week in week out, they even loss to manly savers.. Need to rebuild during the offseason, I hope someone is at the school telling them how strong this club once was and how fun subbies rugby can be, because otherwise this club may become a relic of the past.
Manly Savers -10 1st grade (7th), 2nd Grade (non existent), Manly premier Colts (4th)
Didn't have the player numbers or the quality for this division. I don't know what happened this year to them but it was not pretty. Its a tough gig to set up in the same suburb as a successful premier side, it was to tough for manly.
Summary Div 3
The division finals were great and had exciting finishes in particularly 1st grade however this papered over alot of the problems in the division. At the end of the season their were 5 competitive teams in 1st grade, 4 teams not forfeiting in 2nd grade and only 3 clubs with subbies clubs. The byes made everything worse in this division as with forfeits teams were playing only once or twice a month on several occasions. More clubs are needed for this division to be viable. If Beecroft (and myself) move only 2 of the clubs will have colts, so maybe this division should drop colts and try for a third grade.
Beecroft 1886 points - 1st Grade (2nd), 2nd Grade (1st) Colts (3rd)
The club champions of the division will be happy to walk away with open trophy but will be ruing not coming away with at least one more. The 1st grade side looked unbeatable in the first half of the seasons before Europe season and injuries shook that image. They were up their all season and only lost the GF after the bell to the only side in the comp that could rival them in Oysters. Having a 2nd grade win the division who is a very nice achievement when your 1st grade makes the grand final and shows the depth the club is starting to produce. The colts had some very classy backs and and solid pack and were strong throughout the year. What is promising for Beecroft is their colts have been playing in the finals series for at least 5 years and this has started flowing through to the grades. A club which is on the rise and should be competitive although probably not dominant in div 2.
Knox 1412 - 1st Grade (4th), 2nd grade (5th), Colts (2nd)
Will be happy to finish 2nd as club champions but disappointed they couldn't do more then that. Their 1st grade started slow but were really building nicely before a upset 1st round loss in the quarter finals. Their 2nd grade should have been playing finals football but late end of seasons forfeits changed that and is a worrying sign for the club that they are struggling to maintain players. Similar to last year their colts are their strong points and will be heart broken they couldn't convert their minor premiership into a gf win, if they can convert their colts into grade players then it will be a bright future, but the colts seem very separate to the rest of the club and their was not a lot of backing up. Hopefully the colts stay and hopefully the more positive results should keep players around for another crack at whatever div 3 looks like.
Sydney harbour 1210- 1st grade (1st), Eastern Suburbs 5ths 2nd grade (2nd), Gordon Colts (5th) (no idea how cc points worked with them)
They posses a dominant 1st grade team, that can attack like no other and they put cricket scores on other clubs, the only problem is that is the extent of Sydney oysters. Their 2nd grade side is easts 5ths and their colts is Gordon. They are putting subbies in a tricky spot can you promote a a one club team and then try and fill the other grades and colts which is hard or do you keep them in the same division and let them continue to beat everybody. Would love to see them try and put a 2nd grade club on although am cautious of this as its not very successful, otherwise Div 3 might be their celling for the time being.
Sydney Harlequins 1158 1st grade (3rd), 2nd grade (3rd), Colts (Eastern Suburbs 1st)
1st grade was strong and did well to make the semi-final however we always a class below the top 2, the same can be said about 2nd grade with both sides suffering decisive losses in the preliminary final. Harlequins however did have their moments including beating Beecroft in 1st grade and were tied in 2nd grade at half time in the PF, so they were clearly have talent, if they can elevate a little bit they can win the division next year, and with Beecroft possibly gone they should push their way to the grand final in 2 grades. The player depth is their as they have numbers, would love to see them find a colts team though.
Old barker 926 1st Grade (5th), 2nd grade (4th), Colts (7th).
It was a regressive year for the BOBS, their 1st grade were respectable in 2nd div last year making the finals and this year in an easier division they failed to do so. Their 2nd grade came fourth but this achievement should be placed in the context of they were the best team to not forfeit multiple games this years, they never really looked threat. Their colts as has been the case for the past few years have struggled and since this has happened the club has only been moving backwards. In what should have been a good division for them with local rivals in the form of Knox, iggies and closely located beecroft, I thought an improvement would have been on the cards. However applause must be given to the boys from Hornsby for fulling their divisional requirements week in and week out.
Old Iggies 262 1st grade (6th), 2nd grade (6th), colts (7th)
A year to forget and the sooner the better, because if they don't there will be no team next year for this club. The seasons started so promising with wins against Knox and then just went downhill from their with the club only fielding 1st grade by the end of the year, and the 1st grade side was getting trounced week in week out, they even loss to manly savers.. Need to rebuild during the offseason, I hope someone is at the school telling them how strong this club once was and how fun subbies rugby can be, because otherwise this club may become a relic of the past.
Manly Savers -10 1st grade (7th), 2nd Grade (non existent), Manly premier Colts (4th)
Didn't have the player numbers or the quality for this division. I don't know what happened this year to them but it was not pretty. Its a tough gig to set up in the same suburb as a successful premier side, it was to tough for manly.
Summary Div 3
The division finals were great and had exciting finishes in particularly 1st grade however this papered over alot of the problems in the division. At the end of the season their were 5 competitive teams in 1st grade, 4 teams not forfeiting in 2nd grade and only 3 clubs with subbies clubs. The byes made everything worse in this division as with forfeits teams were playing only once or twice a month on several occasions. More clubs are needed for this division to be viable. If Beecroft (and myself) move only 2 of the clubs will have colts, so maybe this division should drop colts and try for a third grade.
footy_footy
Sydney Middleton (9)
Div 1 GF tips
Sutherland Cup - Waverley v Mosman - my initial understanding was the Sutherland Cup wasn't to be contested in 2023 but that has clearly changed. Nothing quite like some running rugby on a Friday night! Toss of a coin lets go Waverley.
Judd Cup - Mosman v Waverley - Mosman to complete the undefeated season in a canter. Does a Judd Cup premiership redeem an 8th place finish on the club championship for the whales!?
Whiddon Cup - Waverley v Colleagues - Waverley lost their first two matches to St Pat's (9th) and Blue Mountains (7th) before hitting their straps on an impressive unbeaten run. Colleagues ever consistent will hold their own but think Waverley will finish their morning off with a 2nd Cup and not a single Colt in sight.
Barbour Cup - Forest v Colleagues - This one is a doozy. I had St Pat's winning this from early on before they imploded with one of the all time great finals capitulations. Forest are a typically tough and gritty team who won't give an inch. Colleagues appear to have found form at the right end of the season and can score points with a quick backline and strong maul. Hoping Forest can grind out a win here to send Colleagues home without a premiership in 2023.
Burke Cup - Colleagues v Drummoyne - The Dirty Reds are in good form knocking off a strong Waverley and Hunters Hill in consecutive weeks with impressive performances. Tipping an upset here in a nail biter.
Kentwell Cup - Blue Mountains v Hunters Hill - What a turn around from the Mountain Goats. 9th in 2022 to potential premiers in 2023. Great recruitment has seen the Mountain men scale the ladder to start this match as favourites. Hunters Hill have been the most consistent team all year but I don't think have the fire power to match a full strength Blueys up front, particularly after two gruelling weeks of semi finals. I'm sure Hunters will be looking to dominate possession and move the Blueys big men around but easier said than done. A fresh Blue Mountains to knock off the Minor Premiers to secure their first Kentwell Cup - a fantastic achievement.
Sutherland Cup - Waverley v Mosman - my initial understanding was the Sutherland Cup wasn't to be contested in 2023 but that has clearly changed. Nothing quite like some running rugby on a Friday night! Toss of a coin lets go Waverley.
Judd Cup - Mosman v Waverley - Mosman to complete the undefeated season in a canter. Does a Judd Cup premiership redeem an 8th place finish on the club championship for the whales!?
Whiddon Cup - Waverley v Colleagues - Waverley lost their first two matches to St Pat's (9th) and Blue Mountains (7th) before hitting their straps on an impressive unbeaten run. Colleagues ever consistent will hold their own but think Waverley will finish their morning off with a 2nd Cup and not a single Colt in sight.
Barbour Cup - Forest v Colleagues - This one is a doozy. I had St Pat's winning this from early on before they imploded with one of the all time great finals capitulations. Forest are a typically tough and gritty team who won't give an inch. Colleagues appear to have found form at the right end of the season and can score points with a quick backline and strong maul. Hoping Forest can grind out a win here to send Colleagues home without a premiership in 2023.
Burke Cup - Colleagues v Drummoyne - The Dirty Reds are in good form knocking off a strong Waverley and Hunters Hill in consecutive weeks with impressive performances. Tipping an upset here in a nail biter.
Kentwell Cup - Blue Mountains v Hunters Hill - What a turn around from the Mountain Goats. 9th in 2022 to potential premiers in 2023. Great recruitment has seen the Mountain men scale the ladder to start this match as favourites. Hunters Hill have been the most consistent team all year but I don't think have the fire power to match a full strength Blueys up front, particularly after two gruelling weeks of semi finals. I'm sure Hunters will be looking to dominate possession and move the Blueys big men around but easier said than done. A fresh Blue Mountains to knock off the Minor Premiers to secure their first Kentwell Cup - a fantastic achievement.
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Watty Friend (18)
Not sure if you're @footy_footy predictions against colleagues are disdain for colleagues or actual predictions but I hope they don't come true.
footy_footy
Sydney Middleton (9)
I'd be lying if I said they're my favourite club but I do think they are a red hot chance Barbour & Burke.
Eastcoast
Bill Watson (15)
Surely they win Burke - On an absolute streak since we knocked them off in Round 1. Clinical without ever destroying a team apart from maybe one or two throughout the season.
Drummoyne have strike though so you wouldnt want them within 1 try with 10 minutes to go
The Wombat
Chris McKivat (8)
Drop Bears Rugby flourish
In their first year of existence the Georges River Rugby Drop Bears made the Grand Final going down...
TheBigArvo
Larry Dwyer (12)
I’m interested on where you see the future of Div 3 next year?
Do you think it will rely on clubs coming down from Div 2 to fill the gap or is it clubs coming up from Div 4?
If Beecroft don’t go up there’s realistically only 5 teams that will be in the division so either it will rely on some clubs coming down from Div 2 or finding 2 clubs wanting to push up.
Personally I don’t think there is the number of clubs to be able to get the 7 teams in Div 2 and 3 we had this year. I hope for the sake of Div 3 they don’t just forget about it.
My guess would be this is what we are looking at
Div 1- Mountains, Colleague’s, Hunters Hill, Drummoyne, Waverley, Forrest, St Pats & Mosman
Div 2- Petersham, Lindfield, UNSW, Newport, Hills, Epping, Valley & Briars
Div 3- Beecroft, Knox, Harbour, Harlequins & Barker (maybe Iggies)