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Stormers vs Crusaders @ Newlands - 2011R12

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PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
The long awaited match coming up. The past weekend the Stormers surely lift their form a few notches playing to their ability. They'l surely have to play like this for 80 minutes if they want to win this one and keep their proud record in tact against NZ opposition. Havent lost againt their teams since May2, 2009.

Some excellent match ups in this one and the differense will be in the Stormers attack vs the Saders defense and not the other way round.

Another sold out 48,000 crowd like last weekend and a 17h00 start.
 
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Leinster

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Carter was over in Perth with the team so must be a chance to play in this one. Read back in. Crusaders still have some issues in 2nd row. Should be a cracker though.
 

PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
Habana may miss this one. Liebenberg will be back and had a decent 40 minutes on saturday. Coetzee may have a few options for Habana, either Poolman or Sadie or can move Jean to the wing and JdJ in 12. Grant will be back for this one but I would love to see Cronje have another shot in 10. He miss a few in his debut but sure look the goods defensive and attacking wise. Dont expect any other changes. Elstadt sure as hell is one excellent find for us.
 

Blue

Andrew Slack (58)
Sounds like Dan the Man will be back.

Reid back is HUGE. Monster back row battle.

No Paarl, give Cronje more time in a match of less magnitude. He has a long way to go. Not bad, but play your big guns when it matters.
 

Sandpit Fan

Nev Cottrell (35)
Certainly the match of the round this one I reckon. It will be interesting to see if the saders attack manages to punch a few holes in their defence. Good timing with Liebenburg coming back for the Stormers.
 

qwerty51

Stirling Mortlock (74)
Who stays? Whitelock or Todd?

Todd imo although Whitelock plays more like a 6. Todd has just been incredible. Immense workrate.
 
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Leinster

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I think Habana being out would be a good thing for the Stormers. He's been a shadow of his former self for over a year now. Not scoring tries, missing tackles and giving away countless penalties.
 

Ali's Choice

Jimmy Flynn (14)
Todd Blackadder has confirmed that Carter is not in the match day 22. In a RWC year I guess they are taking no chances with his hamstring. Kieran Read is a definite starter at 8 and still no word as to which flanker will make way for McCaw, Whitelock or Todd. Both are playing well. Strong arguments could be made for playing either. Todd has been in excellent form, and has been arguably the form openside in the comp. His work at the breakdown, and linking play between the forwards and backs is second to none. Whitelock's form has been also very impressive and he plays a tighter style of game which is naturally more suited to no.6. In this way, I think the backrow is actually more balanced with Whitelock partnering McCaw. Moreover, he provides a bit more bulk and grunt, which could be valuable against a hulking Stormers pack. In saying that, I wouldn't be at all surprised if Todd Blackadder plays McCaw at 6 and keeps Todd at 7.
 

Lee Grant

John Eales (66)
Todd is a terrific player and has been brought along nicely by NZ rugby, appearing in the ITM Cup just last year. If he were an Aussie he'd have about 40 Super games by now and be worse off for it.

Liam Gill of Queensland is a similar player and will be just as good as Todd is if he gets near to the same weight at age 23 - by no means certain.

The Crusaders are irrepressible when they are on song but even last weekend they had enough down time to encourage opponents, as the Blues and Clan were also encouraged.

I'll pick the Stormers unless they play like they did against the Reds, but I'm a poor tipster.
 

Gagger

Nick Farr-Jones (63)
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This will be fascinating to see whether Stormers can get some shape on

Really you have to structure the game against the Saders - kick to touch, take on the lineout. But with 3/4 across the back in D this ain't easy. It also leaves a bit of space that makes you want to run it back at them and get sucked into their frenetic game, which very few can live with for 80 mins; you might score a few points, but they'll score even more.
 

PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
With our tour coming up Coetzee wont risk players if they aint 100% fit. Habana ribs is much batter and may play but he wont risk Grant who have a knee injury. Cronje will start again. Stormers danger man will be Chris Jack. He know our lot very well and will turn on the heat against Bekker & kie. Elstadt sure a big find and critical in the grunting stuff. He jump like a lock but play like a flanker.

The Stormers have learned a lot from the Reds game. Cooper on the day out kick us with Muskiet in 15. It made them picking Jantjes and Muskiet to the wing and Jantjes look like a different player since he got his change. Cronjes kicking game also much better then Grant and in this one we have to frustrate the Saders with our defense, kick for field position and keep possesion and will have to do this for 80 minutes.
 

Ali's Choice

Jimmy Flynn (14)
This will be fascinating to see whether Stormers can get some shape on

Really you have to structure the game against the Saders - kick to touch, take on the lineout. But with 3/4 across the back in D this ain't easy. It also leaves a bit of space that makes you want to run it back at them and get sucked into their frenetic game, which very few can live with for 80 mins; you might score a few points, but they'll score even more.

Notwithstanding the fact that the Crusaders are the most dangerous counter-attacking team in the comp right now, the fact that both the Crusaders forst choice locks are injured means that the Stormers will almost certainly look to kick long into touch, and pressure the Crusaders lineout. The Force troubled the Crusaders last weekend at lineout time, and the Stormers have one of the best lineouts in Super Rugby. Moreover, it's much easier to defend against Dagg, Guildford, Maitland and co from a lineout as oposed to during broken play.

I'm really looking forward to this game. Many people are saying this is a clash of contrasting styles, but I don't think it really is. Whilst the Crusaders are certainly more potent in attack, they have traditionally been one of the more conservative and structured NZ teams. They aren't the Canes or the Chiefs, who play off the cuff, 'headless chicken' footy. They play to a definite pattern and back their breakdown work and set piece to gain them the ascendency. Carter and Ellis are big losses because their replacements aren't as adept at controlling games and especially the tempo of games, but hopefully Berquist and Fotuali'i are learning from every game and can play with a bit more composure and direction against what will be a highly organised, structured and patient oponent.
 

PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
Grant & Habna out. Sadies big change.

Stormers: 15. Conrad Jantjes, 14. Johann Sadie, 13. Jaque Fourie, 12. Jean De Villiers, 11. Gio Aplon, 10. Lionel Cronje, 9. Dewaldt Duvenage, 8. Duane Vermeulen, 7. Francois Louw, 6. Schalk Burger (kaptein), 5. Andries Bekker, 4. Reynardt Elstadt, 3. CJ van der Linde, 2. Deon Fourie, 1. Wicus Blaauw
Replacements: 16. Tiaan Liebenberg, 17. Brok Harris, 18. De Kock Steenkamp, 19. Nick Koster, 20. Ricky Januarie, 21. Kurt Coleman, 22. Juan De Jongh
 

PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
Our 3rd choise. Played SA U20 with the Ebershon twins. Top point scorer in the Vodacom competitiom.
 

ACT Crusader

Jim Lenehan (48)
Grant is a massive loss for the Stormers. Knows how to direct the team and his combination with JDV is excellent. JDV will probably play a bit of 1st reciever this week.

I reckon we will be the team doing a bit of kicking and taregetting the back 3 of the Stormers. We won't necessarily want to get in the frenetic pace with the Stormers forwards - Burger, Louw and Bekker in particular that cover huge amounts of ground.

Stormers are my fave non-NZ team so really looking forward to this one
 

Ali's Choice

Jimmy Flynn (14)
The Crusaders team has been named. Interesting to see that Blackadder has retained Whitelock, and demoted Todd to the bench. This isn't a bad option, against a big Stormers pack. Whitelock is a bigger player, who plays a more traditional no.6 's role. He is also a better lineout option. Moreover, Todd has played lots of rugby this season, and could probably do with a break in his rookie season.

15. Israel Dagg
14. Sean Maitland
13. Robbie Fruean
12. Sonny Bill Williams
11. Zac Guildford
10. Matt Berquist
9. Kahn Fotuali'i

8. Kieran Read
7. Richie McCaw (capt)
6. George Whitelock
5. Chris Jack
4. Luke Romano
3. Owen Franks
2. Corey Flynn
1. Wyatt Crockett.

Reserves: Quentin MacDonald, Andrew Olorenshaw, Joe Wheeler, Matt Todd, Willi Heinz, Tom Marshall, Adam Whitelock.
 

Blue

Andrew Slack (58)
With Grant out I can't see the Stormer's winning this.

Cronje has an okay-ish game against the Sharks. They protected him well but the Sharks barely targeted him. He is on for a torrid time against the Crusaders back row.

I hope the youngster fronts up.

The Stormers will be worried about the scrums, but they should dominate the lineout.

The breakdown shapes to be a classic with two world-class back rows.
 

PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
I have been posted a long time ago in the Grassroots section about this man , Johann Sadie. Another Paarl Gym midfielder gem. Know him since his U7 days at Swartland, Malmesbury and also his parents. His dad played many a year for Boland and Johann probably hold a record, having provincial colours in 5 different sports (rugby, cricket, hockey, athletics, pluimbal) at U13 age group level. Now 4 Paarl Gimmies in the Stormers starting lineup. This is Johann's big change, have a nose for a gap and understand space and super quick. May struggle a bit defensive wise but hopefull he'll fit right into the Stormers defensive pattern. Johann played for Paarl Gym first team with Dewaldt Duvenhage. Big sin not to see Dewaldt in the Bok group but he'll get there.

Sport24
Coetzee: Sadie has X-factor

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Cape Town - The DHL Stormers have produced a major surprise in their selection for Saturday's long awaited Vodacom Super Rugby clash with the Crusaders at Newlands by selecting young centre Johann Sadie on the wing.

With Bryan Habana ruled out of the match with a rib injury picked up against the Sharks, the expectation was that coach Allister Coetzee would recall Danie Poolman, who did well in the first half of the season but made way for the return of Habana after the bye.

However it is former Western Province under-21 centre Sadie who has been included on the Stormers team sheet in the No 14 jersey, with Gio Aplon switching from right wing to left wing.

Although Sadie has played a couple of minutes for the Stormers as a replacement, this will be his first ever start at Super Rugby level, and it will be in an unfamiliar position.

However, Coetzee defended the apparent gamble by pointing to Sadie's superb attacking skills.

"We felt that against a team like the Crusaders we needed to have a player on the wing who had X-factor, so with Bryan out we felt that Johann was the man to go for," said Coetzee.

"Sadie is an exciting player who has the X-factor that we want, he is a player who can make things happen for us. It is not that we are dispensing with Danie Poolman, just that Danie is a solid and reliable player who doesn't really have the ingredients, the X-factor, that we are looking for. Danie will probably come on tour with us and we will be using him again."

Sadie scored a try as a replacement in the Stormers' win over the Lions in the last match before the bye, but was back in the WP midfield in last week's Vodacom Cup quarter-final defeat to the Sharks XV. It is not known whether he has played wing before - certainly all his representative rugby in the Western Cape has been at centre.

There is no denying though that he is potentially a special player and in terms of pace and ability to capitalise on half opportunities he is more in the Habana mould than Poolman is.

The selection of Sadie was the only change to the side that beat the Sharks 32-12 last weekend, with the entire pack that won the bruising forward battle back to front up again even though some players, such as skipper Schalk Burger, are still carrying the bruises and scars of the derby.

Peter Grant still hasn't trained since sustaining his knee injury in the Reds game and Coetzee confirmed that he will definitely not be taking the field against the Crusaders even though he was bracketed with Lionel Cronje in the initial team sheet distributed at the team announcement press conference.

A couple of players sat out of Wednesday afternoon's training session but Coetzee said they had all participated fully in the morning practice, including Tiaan Liebenberg, the experienced hooker who makes his way back into Super Rugby by playing off the Stormers bench on Saturday.

He replaces former Lions hooker Ethienne Reynecke in the only other change to the 22 that did duty against the Sharks.

Lionel Cronje hopefull would have shaked off his debut feathers last week. Altho not as experiense as Grant he sure can boot the ball further and not afraid to throw his bigger frame into defense.

Jean de Villiers thoughts on Lionels debut
"Young Lionel Cronje made one or two errors but kept a calm head, kept his composure. And we scored four tries with him at flyhalf, which showed his ability to play at this level. He'll get better and better."

Told you about the Stormers depth, hopefull we'll see a good Burger Bekker show and all these youngster pass their ultimate SupeRugby test measured against the best provincial team in the universe.

Newlands a gaurenteed sold out.
 
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