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Stormers 2010

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PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
OK so the CC went to a sudden death for WP and on we move to 2010 S14.

Jean de Villiers a big loss for our lot but the relief to say "Goodbye" to Luke Watson, H"ope the door dont slam your arse on the way out" and first we have to get a new captain.

Only take a few days before Rassie appoint his captain and no surprise that Schalk will lead our pack. Should have been like that in the first place when he appointed Jean and myself knew that was just to please the Watsons.

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Burger to captain the Stormers

Schalk Burger will be given the task of leading the Stormers in the 2010 Super 14 as the franchise looks to build on the impressive momentum picked up by Western Province in the Absa Currie Cup.

Stormers coach Rassie Erasmus says he will be “really surprised” if Burger is not named as Stormers leader following the departure of previous Stormers captain Jean de Villiers for Munster and Western Province skipper Luke Watson for English club Bath.

Although that is not a definite confirmation of Burger as leader, and discussions still have to take place on the issue, when it comes from Erasmus, who runs the show in the Cape, you can consider it as good as a done deal.

“Schalk should be a front-runner for the captaincy. Again on Saturday when he came onto the field in the semifinal against the Blue Bulls, he showed what a great leader he is and what an impact he makes,” said Erasmus.

“He relates well to the whole management system and set-up, and he is a Province boy through and through. Nothing it finalised as yet, but it would be a really big surprise if he is not appointed as captain.”

While some might question Burger’s credentials on the basis that he struggled as captain when given the leadership as a stop-gap in the Kobus van der Merwe era, Burger led the Stormers to an excellent away win over the Highlanders in Dunedin in the last match of the 2009 Super 14 tour. He was praised by the commentators for his leadership that day, and it was only a subsequent injury that saw the captaincy armband switched to Watson for the remaining games.

With Watson gone, there is going to be a lot of speculation over who will now play at No 8, and the configuration of the rest of the back-row. But Erasmus has consistently stated his view that he does not see particular designations as a big issue when it comes to the make-up of a back-row as he believes all players, not just loose-forwards, should be hunting for the ball at breakdowns.

So whereas a unit made up of Duane Vermeulen, Burger and Francois Louw, with either Vermeulen or Burger at No 8, is likely to play most games if the players are all fully fit, Erasmus says he is prepared to take a horses for courses policy for different opponents.

“If we play a good lineout team, it would be wonderful to have Duane Schalk and Francois who can all jump in the lineout. But if we come up against a guy like Heinrich Brussow, then someone like Pieter Myburgh or a Boetie Britz might come into the mix. Then there is still Pieter Louw, who can also jump in the lineout. It will differ from game to game.

“When it comes to No 8, we would want a guy who is able to handle the pressure of channelling the ball at the back of the scrum, so while it might differ game from game, it will be between Duane and Schalk.”
 

PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
Player stock havent been finalised but I'll give it my best shot. WP have done well in the CC and sure have grow since the S14. A few youngsters sure have grew this year and the Stormers will have a much better scedule next year compare to this year. One less away match and the start with a home run of match to get the boat sailing.

15 Jantjes, Pietersen
Wings: Habana, Sereli, Aplon, Koster
13: Jac Fourie, Juan de Jong, Frikkie Welsch
12: Grant, Bosch, de Jong
10: Willem de Waal, Peter Grant
9 Duvenhage, Januarie, Hoffman
Loosies: Most of them can play a few positions so I'll chuck them as a bunch. Schalk, Vermeulen, Pieter Louw, Koster, Pieter Myburgh, Francois Louw
Locks: Bekker, Anton van Zyl, Fondse, Steenkamp
3 Brok Harris, JC Kritzinger
2 Liebenberg, Fourie
1 Blaauw, JD Moller
 

Lee Grant

John Eales (66)
Does WP play the Bulls in Pretoria next year? I wonder how they will receive Bryan Habana? Is he also with the Stormers? I'm too lazy to look it up.

It's good to see Jantjes name being mentioned again. He's had a bad run with injuries.

I thought that I saw things with Pietersen this year I hadn't seen before. He always seemed a bit too laid back but he's got a harder edge to his play now. Looks bigger too.

PS - 2 great semis on Saturday night weren't they?

And your pick to be the winner is?
 
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BillyWebb

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Lee Grant said:
Does WP play the Bulls in Pretoria next year? I wonder how they will receive Bryan Habana? Is he also with the Stormers? I'm too lazy to look it up.

It's good to see Jantjes name being mentioned again. He's had a bad run with injuries.

I thought that I saw things with Pietersen this year I hadn't seen before. He always seemed a bit too laid back but he's got a harder edge to his play now. Looks bigger too.

PS - 2 great semis on Saturday night weren't they?

And your pick to be the winner is?

Habana is with WP and the Stormers as of next year.
The Pietersen playing for WP / Stormers is Joe Pietersen (little blonde chap) and not JP Pietersen (Sharks & Boks).

Getting Jantjes back (and fully recovered hopefully) will be great news not only for his franchise but for the Boks too.
Add in Louis Ludik (also broken leg), Zane Kirchner and Hennie Daniller and there is some exciting stock coming through that can play 15.

The CC semi's were good stuff (although frustrating if you're a Sharks fan like me!)
The Bulls will be overwhelming favourites for the final, but that doesn't mean they just have to pitch up to take the title. I'd expect some spectacular fireworks as those two packs climb into each other. :thumb
 

PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
The Bulls will blow the Cheetahs off the park on Loftus is my geuss.

Billy is right I am talking about Joe Pietersen. Hope with a bit of luck he'll make the EYT. The bisggest asset he can bring to the Boks is that he is a very good place kicker and pretty versatile. Can played 15, wing and 10. Myself think if Morne get injured , Snor can play Pienaar in 10 and Joe in 15, this way he'll have a backup place kicker.

Joe past his test with flying colours against Mornes boot on saturday and field the high ones quite brilliant. He must be one of not only the top try scorers but also point scorers in this years CC.

Stormers fixture list for 2010
Lions (A), Tahs (H), Brumbies (H), Highlanders (H), Canes (H), Cheetahs (H), BYE, Force (A), Blues (A), Chiefs (A), Saders (H), Reds (H), Sharks (A) & Bulls at Newlands.
 

Biffo

Ken Catchpole (46)
PaarlBok said:
Stormers fixture list for 2010
Lions (A), Tahs (H), Brumbies (H), Highlanders (H), Canes (H), Cheetahs (H), BYE, Force (A), Blues (A), Chiefs (A), Saders (H), Reds (H), Sharks (A) & Bulls at Newlands.

Very soft indeed, if correct. Three of the four Australian teams at home? Away in Australia and NZ for three games in 15 days - leave 3 days before the Force game and come home one day after the Chiefs game. Away from home for 19 days. Arduous?
 

PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
Biffo said:
PaarlBok said:
Stormers fixture list for 2010
Lions (A), Tahs (H), Brumbies (H), Highlanders (H), Canes (H), Cheetahs (H), BYE, Force (A), Blues (A), Chiefs (A), Saders (H), Reds (H), Sharks (A) & Bulls at Newlands.

Very soft indeed, if correct. Three of the four Australian teams at home? Away in Australia and NZ for three games in 15 days - leave 3 days before the Force game and come home one day after the Chiefs game. Away from home for 19 days. Arduous?
The following year its the tough one again. The Stormers and Bulls always tour together. So if they tour well this two help each other.

The secret for them is to start well. Usually they have hickups at the start and go on tour and have to win matches to catch up to the leaders.

Rassie had a three year plan when he started with the Stormers, 2010 is his third year and he just have to achieve.
 

Biffo

Ken Catchpole (46)
PaarlBok said:
Biffo said:
PaarlBok said:
Stormers fixture list for 2010
Lions (A), Tahs (H), Brumbies (H), Highlanders (H), Canes (H), Cheetahs (H), BYE, Force (A), Blues (A), Chiefs (A), Saders (H), Reds (H), Sharks (A) & Bulls at Newlands.

Very soft indeed, if correct. Three of the four Australian teams at home? Away in Australia and NZ for three games in 15 days - leave 3 days before the Force game and come home one day after the Chiefs game. Away from home for 19 days. Arduous?
The following year its the tough one again. The Stormers and Bulls always tour together. So if they tour well this two help each other.

The secret for them is to start well. Usually they have hickups at the start and go on tour and have to win matches to catch up to the leaders.

Rassie had a three year plan when he started with the Stormers, 2010 is his third year and he just have to achieve.

1. Don't you ever whinge again about draws :angryfire:

2. If the Stormers can't win the S14 with that draw, they never will ::)
 

Blue

Andrew Slack (58)
PaarlBok said:
The Bulls will blow the Cheetahs off the park on Loftus is my geuss.

Billy is right I am talking about Joe Pietersen. Hope with a bit of luck he'll make the EYT. The bisggest asset he can bring to the Boks is that he is a very good place kicker and pretty versatile. Can played 15, wing and 10. Myself think if Morne get injured , Snor can play Pienaar in 10 and Joe in 15, this way he'll have a backup place kicker.

Joe past his test with flying colours against Mornes boot on saturday and field the high ones quite brilliant. He must be one of not only the top try scorers but also point scorers in this years CC.

Stormers fixture list for 2010
Lions (A), Tahs (H), Brumbies (H), Highlanders (H), Canes (H), Cheetahs (H), BYE, Force (A), Blues (A), Chiefs (A), Saders (H), Reds (H), Sharks (A) & Bulls at Newlands.

While I like Pietersen and think he is a good footballer he is not a test quality fullback. Would like to see him in the mid-week team though.

This is the best Stormers squad in years but to me there is a huge question mark over Rassie's coaching...

As long as the core of players remain fit, it will be interesting to see how well they go. While the draw favors them, they have a history of starting terribly at home. Canlt help but think they can drop a maximum of one game at home or they will be found short again.

I see Rassie is talking about playing Schalk at 8 which is not a bad idea.
 

PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
Yep he played there all his schoolboy rugby. Would like to see Koster getting his change now. With Kots out of the way , you'll see a totally diffirent Stormers setup. One I can support 100%.

Altho I wanted them to win the CC, could not figure myself out watching him drinking champaign out of the Cup. :nta:
 

Blue

Andrew Slack (58)
Lee, I think the Bulls are ovewhelming favorites and needless to say I am delighted about it but I won't write the Cheetahs off.

They will have a superior scrum helped along by Os du Randt's coaching and that monster new TH they have unearthed.

Brussow will steal a couple and they have some great pace out side to score from deep. I expect the Bulls to grind the life out of them with the kicking game and pressure at lineout and the breakdown.

Stegman and Brussow were adversaries at school so this is headed for a huge scrap. Lots of people like (I think Paarl included) rate Stegman not far behind Brussow.
 

PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
Ja Stegman is pretty close to Brussouw, but since his injury he havent got to his S14 form for the Brutes.

I just cant see the Cheetahs will bodder the Brutes in the scrums and lineouts. WP beat the Cheetahs easily in both departments and the Brutes at home will be a totally different animal to what we saw on saturday.

They will play like in the S14 final.
 

Moses

Simon Poidevin (60)
Staff member
PaarlBok said:
Only take a few days before Rassie appoint his captain and no surprise that Schalk will lead our pack. Should have been like that in the first place when he appointed Jean and myself knew that was just to please the Watsons.
Is it possible the Tahs no longer have the ugliest captain in the comp?
 

Newb

Trevor Allan (34)
i dunno mate. phil's only getting uglier. there's no reverse gear on that process.
 

PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
Jerre whats wrong with you lot?, from when do a players looks count when it come to rugby. Vokkit. :eek:
 

Newb

Trevor Allan (34)
uglier the better paarl. if they can play rugby and still be a pretty boy they aren't trying hard enough :thumb
 

PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
Verseker, a rugby player is suppose to be ugly and mean.

Had a chat yesterday with Snor, he attend the kiddies cricket match in Paarl, and congrats him on the Bokke successe this year. He is just relief that the press and SA supporters is changing their tune towards him. Asking about the EYT he is a worried man. Said the Bokke look pretty flat and tired in the CC. Then I told him except Schalk and he replied Schalk only played 3 matches all year. My friend (easily the biggest Paarl Gym supporter on planet earth and wont say anything wrong about Schalk) replied it must be the neck injury and Snor repolied , no its because he want to take a players eye out with his hand. We nearly kak ourself with laughter.
 
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BillyWebb

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PaarlBok said:
If the Sharks get rid of Plumtree, you'll probably see three SA teams in the semis. :fishing

Good to see you put the fishing icon in there Oom....
I actually think Plum has done a fantastic job at the Sharks.
They're still the reigning CC champions (for at least 10 more days).

But Plum is a forwards coach at heart.
Not sure who's running the show with the blouses... :nta:
Mind you, the problem the Sharks players seem to have is with the bit from their neck up.
Maybe they need to work on that department to get past this habit of fading at the sharp end of tournaments.
 

PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
Bill to behonest I listened to what Snor told me about the Bok players. WP & Cheetahs had gone all season without most and have done pretty well. I think thats the biggest problem for the Sharks, their Bokke dont perform the same in the black and white jersey, maybe a lack of motivation, I am not sure and you find the same thing with the Blues or Auckland in NZ rugby.

Schalk had to do it from the bench this weekend and he sure know he have to earn that stripe jersey. Maybe thats the Sharks problem.
 
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