Beer Baron
Phil Hardcastle (33)
get more interest out of a gps vs non gps game than state of origin. imagine they noise if non gps won
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State of Origin Concept
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He was born in NZ.
Highlander35
Steve Williams (59)
Is there an extended Wallaby squad you're not considering Reg?
Gunn over McMahon and Snowden over Stirzaker seem funny picks if that's not the case.
Gunn over McMahon and Snowden over Stirzaker seem funny picks if that's not the case.
Highlander35
Steve Williams (59)
Pfffft. Silly me, I read Pocock where McMahon was, silly Brain.
Thought Place of birth was just the main criteria rather than the only one.
Brain fart.
Slim 293
Stirling Mortlock (74)
Well, the suggestion is that it would be played during the test window.......
So Wallabies wouldn't be available..........
And there's doubt the Super Rugby teams (Brumbies, Rebels and Force in particular) would release players for this anyways......... and why would the Tahs want to release players to go play for 'Queensland' and vice versa?
The idea is bad on so many levels.
Beer Baron
Phil Hardcastle (33)
No4918
John Hipwell (52)
Super Rugby ratings went south after the test windows and this has been proposed as a means to keep fans interested. I believe the new Reds CEO is pushing it hardest and NSW are open to the idea.
Next year it might work to the ends mentioned as the incoming tests are hardly going to get much interest outside of the dyed on rugby folk, all 6 of them that are left. Not a big fan of the concept but think some new ideas are needed to not only keep current fans engaged but you know, actually try grow the game and get some new ones.
Next year it might work to the ends mentioned as the incoming tests are hardly going to get much interest outside of the dyed on rugby folk, all 6 of them that are left. Not a big fan of the concept but think some new ideas are needed to not only keep current fans engaged but you know, actually try grow the game and get some new ones.
WorkingClassRugger
Michael Lynagh (62)
I'd rather they as you suggest look to run some kind of 7s series during the break to supplement Super Rugby while also keeping the brands in the market. With the recent interest of Ali Baba I'd love to see the ARU look to use such a series to further engage the Asian market.
Use the 5 Aus Super Rugby franchises. Add the Sunwolves, a team out of Hong Kong and could even approach Ali Baba about setting up a team in China or even Singapore. Could run ot over either 4 - 8 events over the 4 week period. There would be very little crossover of talent if you look to run 7s specialists and there could be room to run a Womens side.
Instead of running the traditional day events look to condense it into a maximum 3 hour product. Watching the WS and each game ran for 20 minutes each with breaks etc. You should be able to run up to 9 games in that period.
If you run both a Mens and Womens series that should provide you with 8 games an event. From a commercial perspective. There would plenty of breaks between play and half time for advertisers.
Brumby Runner
Jason Little (69)
Would it be feasible for each Super Rugby franchise to enter two teams in a 7s comp? That way, all of the players would be getting game time and retaining fitness during the enforced layoff.
WorkingClassRugger
Michael Lynagh (62)
Isn't that the point of those not required for Test duty returning to club rugby? To maintain their conditioning. I guess it comes down to what is the overall goal of something like what I suggested above. Commercial and engaement or developmental. Personally I think it needs to be commercially driven in order to maintain a presence in the marketplace during the June window,
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Ken Catchpole (46)
And if I wanted to watch a Queensland origin team beat up nsw, I could just watch brumbies/tah match anyway.
KOB1987
John Eales (66)
There seem to be a lot of inferences here about it being a permanent concept. It's just a fill gap for the test window next year, which is to be extended due to the BIL tour. It's probably a bit of both trying to generate some new interest and keeping the non-wallabies match fit.
The ARU would be better served trying to fill the stadiums for the wallabies games. I can kind of understand the idea because they want to get some third tier rugby going on in the background and they won't have enough players for NRC games due to club comps.
Good old NSW Country v Sydney would be an ideal curtain raiser for the Sydney test. Origin that is, e.g. McCalman would play for country.
The ARU would be better served trying to fill the stadiums for the wallabies games. I can kind of understand the idea because they want to get some third tier rugby going on in the background and they won't have enough players for NRC games due to club comps.
Good old NSW Country v Sydney would be an ideal curtain raiser for the Sydney test. Origin that is, e.g. McCalman would play for country.
Mr Wobbly
Alan Cameron (40)
State of Origin was popular in AFL back when it was VFL vs SAFL vs WAFL. Interest in it dried up once the national competition was up and running. It kind of became redundant.
For a one-off game, I'd much rather see something like an Australia A team play either a second tier nation or maybe a PI Baa Baas team.
For a one-off game, I'd much rather see something like an Australia A team play either a second tier nation or maybe a PI Baa Baas team.
Scrubber2050
Mark Ella (57)
The only way it could be viable is a QLD V NSW State of Origin.
It's not an inclusive concept and if you played your first colts game in another State or country then tough titties.
The concept is about increasing television audiences and about tapping into the "passion" of both States supporters.
The idea of a PI team is crazy. If you do that you should have a team from Samoa, a team from Tonga etc. Its a whole new competition and we don't need that.
And Slim I certainly understand your opposition as the Brumbies wouldn't be able to field a team at all
and nor should they.
Wallabies must be included otherwise it becomes a joke
It's not an inclusive concept and if you played your first colts game in another State or country then tough titties.
The concept is about increasing television audiences and about tapping into the "passion" of both States supporters.
The idea of a PI team is crazy. If you do that you should have a team from Samoa, a team from Tonga etc. Its a whole new competition and we don't need that.
And Slim I certainly understand your opposition as the Brumbies wouldn't be able to field a team at all
and nor should they.Wallabies must be included otherwise it becomes a joke
Scrubber2050
Mark Ella (57)
Maybe just maybe the lack of visionaries in this country is exactly the reason why the sport is in the state it is.
There is nothing wrong with trying to ignite some passion in our game. In fact it is one of the things that is lacking in not only the Wallabies but also our Super sides.
But I reckon any half brain idiot would realise that for the concept to work (hopefully) all Wallabies need to play.
Otherwise it will be a similar spectacle of a game as most NRC games. Nums and Dads and other relatives making up the crowd
There is nothing wrong with trying to ignite some passion in our game. In fact it is one of the things that is lacking in not only the Wallabies but also our Super sides.
But I reckon any half brain idiot would realise that for the concept to work (hopefully) all Wallabies need to play.
Otherwise it will be a similar spectacle of a game as most NRC games. Nums and Dads and other relatives making up the crowd
wamberal
Phil Kearns (64)
Not sure that passion can be manufactured. SOO works in league mainly because of the history of their game, and particularly the fact that Queenslanders had to move to play in Sydney to earn the big bucks that poker machines generated in the sixties and seventies, which made NSW the far stronger team.
This caused deep resentment. When SOO was finally inaugurated, it was set alight when Beetson punched Cronin, his club team-mate, thus inspiring the "mate versus mate" meme.
This unlikely series of events is where the passion comes from. It is unique.
It also helps that there is virtually no international dimension to their game, so SOO is now the centrepiece of their domestic season. Not to mention that a blind eye is turned to violence at Origin level. Anything goes, almost.
Totally different, impossible to replicate, nothing here for us, at all.
This caused deep resentment. When SOO was finally inaugurated, it was set alight when Beetson punched Cronin, his club team-mate, thus inspiring the "mate versus mate" meme.
This unlikely series of events is where the passion comes from. It is unique.
It also helps that there is virtually no international dimension to their game, so SOO is now the centrepiece of their domestic season. Not to mention that a blind eye is turned to violence at Origin level. Anything goes, almost.
Totally different, impossible to replicate, nothing here for us, at all.
If you had all the Wallaby players available I can't work out how it wouldn't be a better money generator to just organise another test match.
It's such a hard concept to work with when we already have NSW and Qld teams that still have parochial supporter bases and a lot of our players would fit with neither state if we had any sort of eligibility criteria that wasn't completely open like rugby league.
It's such a hard concept to work with when we already have NSW and Qld teams that still have parochial supporter bases and a lot of our players would fit with neither state if we had any sort of eligibility criteria that wasn't completely open like rugby league.
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