There was a question why Aussie teams are getting no crowds in NZ, and he asnswered what 70% of NZ rugby public will say(wrongly in my opinion). I go to club rugby every week and people supporters would say no when I asked if they were interested in game between Chiefs and Force, etc and would just say exactly what he said, there too many teams and they can't even name any players in Force or Rebels. Hey that maybe case in Aus too for all I know, but don't crucify someone for being honest.And I haven't heard anyone in here tell me why he is wrong, why the crowds numbers are down when Aus teams are playing in NZ.There was no question about the number of teams, Mark Robinson brought that topic up himself.
Seems Sanzaar rejected it as there 5 teams voting, and SA and Argentina suddenly realised that some of their players would have to pull out, and SA teams couldn't stay in NH, as they would have no players. Can you imagine SA teams in NH comp with no Boks in it? There was a write up in SA paper about it when it got discussed! One of reason NH teams bring in so many players from downunder is to bulk up their teams during 6Ns, and SA team would have their depth sorely tested.Seems NZR rejected it
So you say the same when anyone from RA brings up idea that NZR should allow ABs to play for Aus teams and still play for ABs? Or is there perhaps different standards??If probed that’s when he says “Australia have made up their mind to have 5 teams, and that’s what this competition will have. Any discussion on their future is at the hands of Rugby Australia. The amount of Australian teams will always be handled by Australian decision makers”
Or “it’s inappropriate for me to comment on that as it’s not an NZR decision”
One suggestion is potentially eradicating the existence of a rugby community or two and the other is simply providing a different model for all parties to thrive. It’s not that hard to understand the difference in severity. Of course there is different standards because there is different implicationsSo you say the same when anyone from Rugby Australia brings up idea that NZR should allow ABs to play for Aus teams and still play for ABs? Or is there perhaps different standards??
One suggestion is potentially eradicating the existence of a rugby community or two and the other is simply providing a different model for all parties to thrive. It’s not that hard to understand the difference in severity. Of course there is different standards because there is different implications
There was a question why Aussie teams are getting no crowds in NZ, and he asnswered what 70% of NZ rugby public will say(wrongly in my opinion). I go to club rugby every week and people supporters would say no when I asked if they were interested in game between Chiefs and Force, etc and would just say exactly what he said, there too many teams and they can't even name any players in Force or Rebels. Hey that maybe case in Aus too for all I know, but don't crucify someone for being honest.And I haven't heard anyone in here tell me why he is wrong, why the crowds numbers are down when Aus teams are playing in NZ.
It's noted that noone has said he talked of allowing NZ players in Aus teams, that Aus wants (because they feel they haven't got enough players to fill 5 teams). If you asked most supporters from NZ and Aus they would tell you that MP (Moana Pasifika) (Moana Pasifika) probaly shouldn't be in comp, or use that as a reason to not go and watch them. (I disagree with that too)
But lets face it , if Robinson said he thought Aus should have 6 teams he would get crucified on here anyway He's NZR CEO.
Just out of interest a lot of NZ and Aus fans would agree on some of these things, a hell of a lot of NZ supporters at rugby will say the super comp should be scrapped, and have seperate comps, as Aus don't add anything to comp. Doesn't make them right though, as I believe myself that Aus teams can build their depth and are doing it.
Are you really suggesting that culling a team, sacking 50-60 employees, destroying pathways and leaving thousands of fans without a team to support is the same league as discussing the possibility of free movement within the player market?So you say the same when anyone from Rugby Australia brings up idea that NZR should allow ABs to play for Aus teams and still play for ABs? Or is there perhaps different standards??
You choose.
Ok question for you Adam, to show us how bright you are. What are people saying when they asked why there not a lot of interest in Aussie team's matches here in NZ. Question he was asked. I know the answer, or what people here are saying, but let's have the brigfht boys answer.
Kiwis are saying they're not interested in watching the Waratahs play in Auckland because of too many Australia teams?
Haha you know thats not what was being said. Im a tahs fan and can recognise that.
Aussie teams are just not competitive. A simplistic view is that less teams equals less spread of talent, therefore more competitive teams, therefore more bums on seats.
Always been a fan of a domestic comp. Then maybe an Aussie team would win it. Maybe.
Literally the only point I commented on.Yes, the competitiveness of the Australian teams is the actual reason,
Agreed, but that's what a huge percentage of supporters here think , I agree it not answer, but I will guarantee that is only think most can see is reason for uncompetitiveness from this side of ditch! You hear it week after week, and exactly what Robinson said "some will say there too many Aussie teams". I don't agree, it's the structures of Aus rugby over the last 10 years or so I think.Yes, the competitiveness of the Australian teams is the actual reason, but the idea of culling Australian teams is not the solution just like it wasn’t last time…
No he says that is what people are saying, the Aussie teams (whether Tahs etc) aren't real strong and a lot don't bother. Why do you think there is so little interest in the crowds going to Aussie matches? And that a genuine question.Kiwis are saying they're not interested in watching the Waratahs play in Auckland because of too many Australia teams?
Dan, we have disagreed but i haven't said a bad word about you, no need for these condescending remarks.Ok question for you Adam, to show us how bright you are. What are people saying when they asked why there not a lot of interest in Aussie team's matches here in NZ. Question he was asked. I know the answer, or what people here are saying, but let's have the brigfht boys answer.
Sorry mate, take your point, it wasn't right way to ask question. I honestly didn't mean it like I read it after your post I went back.Dan, we have disagreed but i haven't said a bad word about you, no need for these condescending remarks.