Springboks Squad named

[PaarlBok]

I think the main positive that we can take out of all of this is that Meyer seems to know exactly what he wants from the team and which players fit into this game plan. I also like that he is prepared to communicate these reasons with the rugby public. We may not agree with all of his selections, but at least we know why he has selected the players that he has.

Well I dont know. Blue pointed out some good ones. Obvious I am Stormers biased but his picks of JJ Engelbrecht and Jac Potgieter looks like rewarding his own Brutes poaches with Springbok colours. Also have a huge problem with Kruger and the likes of Daniels, Kankowski in this sqaud. Personally I cant understand Brussouw (who would be my first pick) Kolisi, Ashley Johnson or Josh Strauss in the loosies, Willie le Roux, Aplon, JdJ, Robert Ebersohn, Joe Pietersen and Grant.

 

[PaarlBok]

Thank goodness Fourie du Preez had the guts to tell him he wont be available. It is already a tragic to see Pienaar and Vermaak above Piet van Zyl in that sqaud.

 

[Mank]

I agree about Kankowski, but Daniels has rugby class and I hope he gets a shot in the match 22 (though I doubt he will).

Wynand Olivier is exceptional for the Bulls at Super rugby level, and fits their game plan well. Meyer obviously thinks he can get something more out of Wynand Olivier at international level than his previous 34 appearances showed. But I am very very sceptical.

I am going to give the new coach a chance to justify his selections where it counts, on the field and with results. I note that the usual retarded SA fans already have him nailed to a cross on that cesspit Keo site (*shudder*).

 

[PaarlBok]

I agree about Kankowski, but Daniels has rugby class and I hope he gets a shot in the match 22 (though I doubt he will).

Wynand Olivier is exceptional for the Bulls at Super rugby level, and fits their game plan well. Meyer obviously thinks he can get something more out of Wynand Olivier at international level than his previous 34 appearances showed. But I am very very sceptical.

I am going to give the new coach a chance to justify his selections where it counts, on the field and with results. I note that the usual retarded SA fans already have him nailed to a cross on that cesspit Keo site (*shudder*).

Meisiekind is one of the worst SA midfielders. Daniels no way he can be justify in front of any of Kolisi, Johnson or Brussouw. He and Kankowski maybe OK against Pomland but they will disappear when the going gets tough against the All Blacks or Wallabies. I just hope Schalk Burger and Vermeulen are ready when the real rugby starts. I'll even go this far and pick Elstadt in front of those two. He sure can stand up against tough opposition like he showed in the Bull Ring this weekend.

 

[PaarlBok]

Oh and Malherbe ahead of Kruger. he maybe wet behind the ears but he sure is one of our brighest up coming fatties.

 

[Blue]

I expect come Rugby Champs Daniel, Potgieter and Kankowsi will make place for Burger, Vermeulen and Kolisi / Brussow.

I agree fully about Malherbe. Werner gets dominated too often. He got eaten alive on an EOYT not long ago. Just shows how bare our no 3 cupboard is. *Shiver*.

I have been thinking about Kolisi. Here is in my opinion the best black forward we have ever seen. Too many guys before him were rushed too quickly. I'd ratehr he settles into the role of a pro for another year, gets looked after by Stormers management and mentored properly. He'll keep bashing at the door and will break through. I think it's a good thing that he doesn't get too much expectation put on him. Better for the long term. Anyway that's my 2 cents. Imagine him next year with another year's conditioning under the belt. Farque.

Mank, maybe Heyneke thinks in those 34 test Wynand forgot to do something he can remind him of now. IS there any player in international rugby with that many caps who has doen so previosuly little? I doubt it.

I really hope he does not make the 22.

Paarl re poaches. Clearly Heyneke sees something in JJ and Jacques P. Else he would not have poached them. That's good enough for me. I don't see Potgieter getting any game time.

 

[Blue]

Oh and Malherbe ahead of Kruger. he maybe wet behind the ears but he sure is one of our brighest up coming fatties.

In my opinion the best possible thing that can happne now is for him to spend time with the French Boer. Very happy about that.

 

[PaarlBok]

I expect come Rugby Champs Daniel, Potgieter and Kankowsi will make place for Burger, Vermeulen and Kolisi / Brussow.

I agree fully about Malherbe. Werner gets dominated too often. He got eaten alive on an EOYT not long ago. Just shows how bare our no 3 cupboard is. *Shiver*.

I have been thinking about Kolisi. Here is in my opinion the best black forward we have ever seen. Too many guys before him were rushed too quickly. I'd ratehr he settles into the role of a pro for another year, gets looked after by Stormers management and mentored properly. He'll keep bashing at the door and will break through. I think it's a good thing that he doesn't get too much expectation put on him. Better for the long term. Anyway that's my 2 cents. Imagine him next year with another year's conditioning under the belt. Farque.

Mank, maybe Heyneke thinks in those 34 test Wynand forgot to do something he can remind him of now. IS there any player in international rugby with that many caps who has doen so previosuly little? I doubt it.

I really hope he does not make the 22.

Paarl re poaches. Clearly Heyneke sees something in JJ and Jacques P. Else he would not have poached them. That's good enough for me. I don't see Potgieter getting any game time.

I honestly hope you right. Maybe a little break for Brussouw and Kolisi at this moment a good thing but if they dont get picked when the 4 Nations starts we'll know if that blue glasses is gone. I'll support whoever is the coach and hope for the best. First aim is not to drop any tests against the Poms. If this happen we are in big shite for the rest of the season.

 

[Blue]

Thank goodness Fourie du Preez had the guts to tell him he wont be available. It is already a tragic to see Pienaar and Vermaak above Piet van Zyl in that sqaud.

All class Fourie du Preez.

You can carry on all you like about Pienaar but he was simply awesome at Ulster. His career needed that.

Would you have preferred he still sat on the bench at the Sharks and move around 9,10 and 15 every other week? Part of the reason the Sharlks underperform is becuase Plumtree doesn't strike me as a good man manager.

Try look at it like this. If Pienaar fulfils his potential because he left and the Boks benefit from it then what's the problem?

His career was going nowhere. PDivvie didn't rate him (becuase he played him at 10 and expected him the perform against the Lions) and between the Boks and Sharks he did not have clue what position he would play the next week. It killed his confidence and he left. Thank goodness becuase he did some freakishly good things in the lasy two years. I probably watched at least 7 or 8 Ulster games thsi year so I am nto making this up.

Hell of a footballer. Best kicking game of any 9 on the planet by some margin.

 

[tigerland12]

Meisiekind is one of the worst SA midfielders. Daniels no way he can be justify in front of any of Kolisi, Johnson or Brussouw.

Ashley Johnson? You're having a laugh right? Daniels has been brilliant this year, whilst Johnson is lucky he is starting for the Cheetahs in my opinion.

 

[PaarlBok]

All class Fourie du Preez.

You can carry on all you like about Pienaar but he was simply awesome at Ulster. His career needed that.

Would you have preferred he still sat on the bench at the Sharks and move around 9,10 and 15 every other week? Part of the reason the Sharlks underperform is becuase Plumtree doesn't strike me as a good man manager.

Try look at it like this. If Pienaar fulfils his potential because he left and the Boks benefit from it then what's the problem?

His career was going nowhere. PDivvie didn't rate him (becuase he played him at 10 and expected him the perform against the Lions) and between the Boks and Sharks he did not have clue what position he would play the next week. It killed his confidence and he left. Thank goodness becuase he did some freakishly good things in the lasy two years. I probably watched at least 7 or 8 Ulster games thsi year so I am nto making this up.

Hell of a footballer. Best kicking game of any 9 on the planet by some margin.

I dont agree that Snor did not rate Pienaar. He rated him but then he had FdP and try to give him a starting spot. He plays up north his rugby and should not be picked, I'll pick Super Sarel even ahead of him. He played over 50 test, how many do he still have to play to convinse you he is kak. Give the spot to someone who havent played internationals and playing in the SH competitions.

 

[PaarlBok]

Ashley Johnson? You're having a laugh right? Daniels has been brilliant this year, whilst Johnson is lucky he is starting for the Cheetahs in my opinion.

Suppose you havent watch many of Ashley matches this year. He played mostly from the bench and made a huge impact everytime when he entered. Daniels , brilliant year, you must be smoking something.

 

[Blue]

Sarel Pretorious sadlyy has no pass top speak of. He is awful to the right and abysmal to the left.

 

[Blue]

Jean de Villiers named Captain for England Series:

http://www.supersport.com/rugby/springboks/news/120604/Jean_de_Villiers_named_Springbok_captain

Jean de Villiers will become the 54th Springbok captain after he was named to lead the Boks in the Castle Incoming Tour against England, which starts on Saturday.

The announcement was made on Monday in Durban, where the Springboks are preparing to face England at Mr Price Kings Park this weekend, in the first of three Tests.

The 31-year-old De Villiers, who was named the South African Rugby Player of the Year in 2008, has played in 72 Tests for the Boks. He made his debut in 2002 against France and is the second most experienced member of the current Springbok squad, with two fewer caps than Bryan Habana.

De Villiers is also the 10th most-capped Springbok of all time and only the fourth Springbok Test captain since 2003. John Smit, Victor Matfield and Johann Muller have led the Boks during this time.

“Jean’s leadership qualities are well established and he has always impressed me with his leadership on and off the field,” said Springbok coach Heyneke Meyer.

“I’ve also been impressed by the way he’s led a young and inexperienced DHL Stormers team in Vodacom Super Rugby this year.

“Jean commands respect from everyone in South African rugby and in the short space of time we’ve worked together, Jean has shown that he understands what we want to achieve on the field. He will be surrounded by a core of strong leaders in the squad and we have the utmost faith in them.”

De Villiers said he was humbled by the trust that was placed in him by Meyer and the Springbok management.

“My heart was in my throat when Heyneke told me about his decision on Sunday evening,” said De Villiers.

“This is an honour that is not bestowed upon many people and I really hope I can do my country proud. I do realise there is massive responsibility that comes with this position. The real, hard work only starts now.”

The Springbok captaincy will be reviewed before the start of the Castle Rugby Championship.

Jean de Villiers – Brief biography:

Height: 1.90m
Weight: 100kg
Date of birth: 24 February 1981 in Paarl
Club: University of Stellenbosch
Provincial Union: DHL Western Province
Test debut: 9 November 2002 against France in Marseille
Test caps: 72
Test points: 95 (19 tries)
Representative teams: SA Schools (1999), SA U19 (2000), SA U21 (2001-2002), Springbok Sevens (2002).
Miscellaneous: South African Rugby Player of the Year in 2008; Son of former WP lock Andre de Villiers.

 

[Brisbok]

Suppose you havent watch many of Ashley matches this year. He played mostly from the bench and made a huge impact everytime when he entered. Daniels , brilliant year, you must be smoking something.

Maybe you haven't been following the Sharks too closely recently, but with the exception of the game against the Lions, Daniels has been one of the form loose forwards in the competition in the last month or so. Certainly been the form no. 8 in South Africa since Vermuelen was injured.

 

[Brisbok]

Jean de Villiers named Captain for England Series:

http://www.supersport.com/rugby/springboks/news/120604/Jean_de_Villiers_named_Springbok_captain

Couldn't have really been anyone else for this series could it? Spies' place in the starting XV cannot be guaranteed and there is no one else really. Can you imagine the uproar in the Cape if Spies was named as captain?!

Good choice in the end. Now, does Meyer have any surprises in store for us in the starting XV??

 

[Blue]

Three ways to interpret his appointment:

1. Jean is simply the man for the job and/or
2. Spies won't start and/or
3. Avoid a Cape shitstorm.

 

[Mank]

Maybe you haven't been following the Sharks too closely recently, but with the exception of the game against the Lions, Daniels has been one of the form loose forwards in the competition in the last month or so. Certainly been the form no. 8 in South Africa since Vermuelen was injured.

Form loose forward in the comp is pushing it a bit, but Daniels has certainly been very good. At worst, he hasn't done much wrong, not sure what Blue and Paarl are seeing that we're not.

In terms of ball playing loose forwards with brains, I don't think anyone else in SA trumps Daniels? He's not the biggest guy, but I think he holds his own more than well enough when doing the basics for an 8th man too. I don't buy that he has problems at the back of the scrum, not from what I've seen.

I think if he was an Aussie he would have been capped already.

 

[PaarlBok]

Three ways to interpret his appointment:

1. Jean is simply the man for the job and/or
2. Spies won't start and/or
3. Avoid a Cape shitstorm.

Cape shitstorm wont happen. Keo's se kop klop, so he is a goner.

Congrats to Jean, he sure had to fight for his place but this mean he'll start and the possibility of Meisiekind in 13 closer to reality.

 

[PaarlBok]

Maybe you haven't been following the Sharks too closely recently, but with the exception of the game against the Lions, Daniels has been one of the form loose forwards in the competition in the last month or so. Certainly been the form no. 8 in South Africa since Vermuelen was injured.

Dunno Boet, his team played like shite in the first part of the tournament. I'll have Johnson ahead of him any day. He'll disappear when the going gets tough.