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Southern Inland Rugby 2025

Up the Jumper

Herbert Moran (7)
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1st and 2nds stick together 3rd Grade comp stand alone.
Existing 7 teams plus Hay/Leeton/Deni who decide who’s playing 1st grade, 2nds 3rds via Preseason playoff at start of the year.Unless they field 2 grades.

1st round 8 clubs play each other (7 games)
2nd round split Top 4 Premier and Bottow 4 Plate Comp play each other twice. (6 games)
3rd grade open to all 3rd grade clubs and loser of preseason playoff.

Top 4 Finals everyone plays first week.
First week 1v2 3v4
(3 week finals)


16 week competition.

None of this is a new concept.
Split comp in the past in SIRU
Canberra lower grades play different comp every weekend.
So with the split mid season would that be based on the position of the Club's 1st Grade standing or would it be say based on a Club C'Ship concept of the tiering of points for 1st Grade, 2nd Grade & Womens for each club ?
 

oldandcranky

Bob McCowan (2)
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So with the split mid season would that be based on the position of the Club's 1st Grade standing or would it be say based on a Club C'Ship concept of the tiering of points for 1st Grade, 2nd Grade & Womens for each club ?
As in the past follow 1st grade. Points carry over for lower grades. Women’s comp would best to stand alone comp as 3rd grade.
Wouldn’t be too hard to align most games with all grades playing together but clubs would have to be prepared to split when needed as in the John Dent Comp Canberra.
It’s over confusing the concept of points tiering what worked before can work again.
 

paul bristow

Tom Lawton (22)
Whistle’s post implies an uneven playing field. Will Cranky’s or any other scheme work if the issues he has brought up aren’t addressed?
 

paul bristow

Tom Lawton (22)
I realise you’re going to see red and probably a few other colours as well Mauler when I say this but when you mention the term amateur comp aren’t you playing devils advocate.
 

Maulalltheway

Syd Malcolm (24)
I realise you’re going to see red and probably a few other colours as well Mauler when I say this but when you mention the term amateur comp aren’t you playing devils advocate.
I'm confused.
the comp is an amateur comp. The bylaws are clear on that.

either way, semantics aside...

how do you force an even playing field on a comp? im asking a genuine question and am surprised by the innuendo Paul?
 
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paul bristow

Tom Lawton (22)
The Shute Shield has a player points system Mauler which has worked well .Which ever way we go is going to be muddied by the belief that 2 clubs in SIRU aren’t completely amateur. Whether true or not things like Waratahs coming up with 2 new big forwards from Leeton the week after losing to City encourage suspicion.
 

Maulalltheway

Syd Malcolm (24)
The Shute Shield has a player points system Mauler which has worked well .Which ever way we go is going to be muddied by the belief that 2 clubs in SIRU aren’t completely amateur. Whether true or not things like Waratahs coming up with 2 new big forwards from Leeton the week after losing to City encourage suspicion.
You mean returning players Eroni who played 2023 and 2024 and Sai who played 2023?

tread carefully with these implications when not knowing the facts.

side note. Points systems work. However works well? I’m not sure about that. A good read of the Shute shield forum and their Facebook page shows significant issues around points.

id also suggest that aside from Albury and Aggies the remainder of clubs clearly are all bringing players into their clubs. This doesn’t mean anything untoward has occurred.

then again it’s always been easier to sling mud here than actually look internally!
 
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Tom Lawton (22)
OK Mauler. I don’t want to be seen as slinging mud. I don’t have any facts. I do believe there is general belief the comp is not completely amateur. I do agree with you that this belief is based on rumour.
 

Up the Jumper

Herbert Moran (7)

Player payment probe by board, finals venue decided on busy night​




Southern Inland is looking to clarifying its rules over player payments after a probe.

Southern Inland is looking to clarifying its rules over player payments after a probe.
Southern Inland is looking to clarify its constitution after an investigation into alleged player payments.
As an amateur competition, the paying of players is not allowed.
Southern Inland president Paul Spain confirmed the issue was discussed by the board this week, however no breaches of the rules were found.
"We were asked to have a look at some documents and they were all legitimate and in compliance of current SIRU rules so no action was taken," Spain said.
However Southern Inland is looking to take steps to make the current rules clearer
"It's not so much changing it but making it clearer what's allowed under the rules," Spain said.

"We don't allow payments for players there are things we allow such as compensation for travel, assistance with employment, housing.
"A lot of that is making things clearer about what clubs can and can not do."


Wagga City was at the centre of the probe.
However, president Michael Kanck was pleased to be cleared of any wrongdoing.
"When you have to present information, you do, and it's good when all your processes have been in place, your bookkeeping and contracts are made within the competition rules, and it's good that those efforts over the years finally see the light of day," Kanck said.


"Otherwise they are just locked up.
"It was a good reward for the work behind the scenes over the years."
Coaching contracts are another area Southern Inland is looking to clarify after the investigation.
It is expected to occur after the completion of the season.
"We understand clubs want to contract coaches so we want to make sure everybody who is contracted to clubs as a coach has the relevant coaching qualifications, is registered to coach and as a player, if they do both," Spain said.
"It's not so much tightening it up but making clubs aware of what's allowed."



It comes after the Boiled Lollies had their appeal over Rosivela Nagatarogo's nine-week suspension was unsuccessful.
Wagga City appealed on two different grounds, that it was incorrect in fact or law and it was manifestally excessive, however the ACT judiciary elected to uphold the ban put in place by the Southern Inland judiciary.
It means Nagatarogo will be unable to play again this season.
Kanck thought they had a good case.
"It is what it is," he said.
"We see something from our point of view through our filter and it's just the way it lands.
"We thought we had a good case there of conflicting reports on who was actually the victim and if there was one, but maybe we didn't present the case as good as should have, but it was as good as we could."
Blake Theunissen tries to push out of the Waratahs in the last preliminary final at Exies Oval in 2018. Picture by Liam Warren

Blake Theunissen tries to push out of the Waratahs in the last preliminary final at Exies Oval in 2018. Picture by Liam Warren

Meanwhile, Exies Oval has been locked in to host the preliminary final on August 23.
It will be the first time since 2022 a finals game will be played in Griffith, with the last two preliminary finals held at Jarrah Oval.
Two clubs applied for hosting rights.
"We had two submissions, Griffith and Tumut, but as we've been to Tumut for the last couple why not take it somewhere else?," rugby manager Jack Heffernan said.
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The minor premiers will host the first week of finals at Conolly Rugby Complex on August 16, but who that will be is yet to be determined.
There are two rounds left before finals and while the make-up of the top four is now locked in after Ag College's loss to Tumut, each of the four ladder positions can still change.
On Saturday, Wagga City has the chance to reclaim top spot when they host Aggies at Conolly Rugby Complex on Saturday.
Reddies has the chance to hit back after a forfeit last week when they host Griffith, Tumut hosts winless Albury while Waratahs has the bye.
The winners of the major semi-final, which will be played between Waratahs and Wagga City, will also win hosting rights to the grand final at Conolly Rugby Complex on August 30.

Most of this article is just "Gobilldy Gook" talk.
The facts are the Comp is in Crisis for the future- 90% of the articles in the DA relating to Rugby Union this season concern Regular & Long Term Suspensions for foul play, Cricket Scores that Ricky Ponting & Steve Smith would be proud of and Team Forfeits because some players don't want to play in a higher Grade.
As far as player payments etc are concerned they will never be proven via the investigation of Club records (Clubs aren't that silly)
No need for a preview this Week - City to win and Tumut to win
Go the Wallabies !
 
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