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South Africa vs Scotland ,Port Elizabeth, 28th June

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Ulrich

Ulrich

Nev Cottrell (35)
In somewhat relevant news:

News24/Beeld said:
Beeld newspaper reported on Monday that SARU president Oregan Hoskins had sent a message to Springbok coach Heyneke Meyer about having a greater representation of blacks in the national team.
Hoskins said he personally delivered the message to Meyer.
"We need to give black players, specifically 'African blacks', more chances in the team," he told the Afrikaans daily.
"I spoke to the coach and he agreed, the time is right for this.

"I believe we will already see a change or two against Scotland this coming weekend."
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"African blacks"? As opposed to AFRICAN-American blacks? European blacks? What kind of black will we be pulling out of our arse suddenly Mr. Hoskins?

It would seem as soon as a coach starts building something good he *absolutely needs to be stymied*!

I reckon we should make the whole team black for the sake of it and keep it that way and see how the revenue goes and how our SANZAR partners react.
 
Highlander35

Highlander35

Steve Williams (59)
Yeah we're fucked. Starting with the fact that it's outside the window, so only those playing for the Glasgow and the Edinbokke can play.

Then you add on a tour that's gone all over. Then you add some nice old injuries to the back row, and the centres. Finally, all of the Commonwealth games squad are not going to be selected. Leaving us with a team looking something like this:

1. Al Dickinson
2. Ross Ford
3. Euan Murray
4. Johnny Gray
5. Grant Gilchrist (c)
6. Rob Harley
7. Chris Fusaro
8. Tyrone Holmes
9. Henry Pyrgos
10. Duncan Weir
11. Tommy Seymour
12. Peter Horne
13. Nick de Luca
14. Sean Maitland
15. Stuart Hogg

16. Pat MacArthur
17. Jon Welsh
18. Geoff Cross
19. Tim Swinson
20. Adam Ashe
21. Grayson Hart
22. Tom Heathcote
23. Peter Murchie/Dougie Fife/whoever else is on the tour

Yeah. Saffa Steamroll incoming...
 
ChargerWA

ChargerWA

Mark Loane (55)
Handre Pollard straight in. Be a bit wow if they drop him straight into 10. I suppose they will start with the Goose and give him some time. If they are giving Scotland the reverse Bill Wallace they can give him 30 minutes.
 
PiXeL_Ninja

PiXeL_Ninja

Bill Watson (15)
Ulrich said:
In somewhat relevant news:

"African blacks"? As opposed to AFRICAN-American blacks? European blacks? What kind of black will we be pulling out of our arse suddenly Mr. Hoskins?

It would seem as soon as a coach starts building something good he *absolutely needs to be stymied*!

I reckon we should make the whole team black for the sake of it and keep it that way and see how the revenue goes and how our SANZAR partners react.
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BEE - Basically any ethnic group that is not white qualifies, but these chaps specifically want to fill the team with blacks.

Rather than spend money developing the player from a young age, they should now be forced in because the black cannot be proud of its soccer(cannot even qualify for AFCON).

AfriForum is appealing to the IRB to settle this as the governing body does not allow racist policy. So SARU is possibly going to be banned from competing again - full circle in less than 20 years.
 
qwerty51

qwerty51

Stirling Mortlock (74)
PiXeL_Ninja said:
Please show me the difference in games played since the last world cup good sir? Additionally, feel free to include your domestic games into that list. Ohh Right.
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Sure, since the quarter final RWC match:

Australia: 37
South Africa: 27

That's 10 bloody matches difference. HUGE.

Not sure what you mean by domestic matches? Are you suggesting your TEST players play more rugby than their Australian counterparts domestically?
 
Braveheart81

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
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PiXeL_Ninja said:
Please show me the difference in games played since the last world cup good sir? Additionally, feel free to include your domestic games into that list. Ohh Right.
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Australia generally schedules two tests a year more.

This year I think it will only be one more given SA played an extra June test but Australia have the third Bledisloe and a 5th game on the end of year tour.
 
ChargerWA

ChargerWA

Mark Loane (55)
PiXeL_Ninja said:
AfriForum is appealing to the IRB to settle this as the governing body does not allow racist policy. So SARU is possibly going to be banned from competing again - full circle in less than 20 years.
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Nah, never happen. IRB wouldn't have the cajones.
 
PaarlBok

PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
Braveheart81 said:
Wow! Handre Pollard has been named at 10 for the Boks.

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He has gone the full cycle now. Hope he have a great debut.
The Springbok team to face Scotland in Port Elizabeth is:

15 Willie le Roux - 14 caps, 30 Test points
14 Cornal Hendricks - 2 caps, 10 Test points
13 JP Pietersen - 53 caps, 80 Test points
12 Jan Serfontein - 11 caps, 5 Test points
11 Lwazi Mvovo - 8 caps, 5 Test points
10 Handré Pollard - uncapped
9 Fourie du Preez (vice-captain) - 69 caps, 75 Test points
8 Duane Vermeulen - 18 caps, 10 Test points
7 Schalk Burger - 70 caps, 65 Test points
6 Marcell Coetzee - 15 caps, 5 Test points
5 Victor Matfield (captain) - 112 caps, 35 Test points
4 Lood de Jager - 2 caps, 0 Test points
3 Jannie du Plessis - 53 caps, 5 Test points
2 Bismarck du Plessis (vice-captain) - 59 caps, 45 Test points
1 Coenie Oosthuizen - 16 caps, 10 Test points
Replacements:
16 Adriaan Strauss - 33 caps, 25 Test points
17 Trevor Nyakane - 3 caps, 5 Test points
18 Marcel van der Merwe - uncapped
19 Stephan Lewies - uncapped
20 Teboho “Oupa” Mohoje - uncapped
21 Francois Hougaard - 27 caps, 20 Test points
22 Marnitz Boshoff - uncapped
23 Zane Kirchner - 28 caps, 25 Test points
 
Highlander35

Highlander35

Steve Williams (59)
Scotland Team named. Adam Ashe to start for Scotland before he starts for Glasgow. It's gonna be a long game...

15 Stuart Hogg (Glasgow Warriors) 23 caps, 6 tries, 1 penalty, 33 points
14 Sean Maitland (Glasgow Warriors) 12 caps, 1 try, 5 points
13 Nick De Luca (Biarritz) 42 caps, 1 try, 5 points
12 Peter Horne (Glasgow Warriors) 4 caps
11 Tommy Seymour (Glasgow Warriors) 9 caps, 3 tries, 15 points
10 Duncan Weir (Glasgow Warriors) 14 caps, 1 try, 4 conversions, 4 penalties, 1 drop-goal, 28 points
9 Henry Pyrgos (Glasgow Warriors) 11 caps, 2 tries, 10 points
1 Alasdair Dickinson (Edinburgh Rugby) 35 caps, 2 tries, 10 points
2 Ross Ford (Edinburgh Rugby) 76 caps, 2 tries, 10 points
3 Geoff Cross (London Irish) 31 caps, 1 try, 5 points
4 Tim Swinson (Glasgow Warriors) 8 caps
5 Grant Gilchrist (Edinburgh Rugby) 7 caps, 1 try, 5 points, CAPTAIN
6 Robert Harley (Glasgow Warriors) 6 caps, 1 try, 5 points
7 Chris Fusaro (Glasgow Warriors) 3 caps
8 Adam Ashe (Glasgow Warriors) uncapped
Substitutes
16 Kevin Bryce (Glasgow Warriors) 1 cap
17 Moray Low (Exeter Chiefs) 28 caps
18 Euan Murray (Glasgow Warriors) 59 caps, 2 tries, 10 points
19 Jonny Gray (Glasgow Warriors) 4 caps
20 Tyrone Holmes (Glasgow Warriors) uncapped
21 Grayson Hart (Edinburgh Rugby) 2 caps
22 Dougie Fife (Edinburgh Rugby) 2 caps
23 Peter Murchie (Glasgow Warriors) 2 cap
 
Hawko

Hawko

Tony Shaw (54)
Highlander35 said:
Scotland Team named. Adam Ashe to start for Scotland before he starts for Glasgow. It's gonna be a long game.

15 Stuart Hogg (Glasgow Warriors) 23 caps, 6 tries, 1 penalty, 33 points
14 Sean Maitland (Glasgow Warriors) 12 caps, 1 try, 5 points
13 Nick De Luca (Biarritz) 42 caps, 1 try, 5 points
12 Peter Horne (Glasgow Warriors) 4 caps
11 Tommy Seymour (Glasgow Warriors) 9 caps, 3 tries, 15 points
10 Duncan Weir (Glasgow Warriors) 14 caps, 1 try, 4 conversions, 4 penalties, 1 drop-goal, 28 points
9 Henry Pyrgos (Glasgow Warriors) 11 caps, 2 tries, 10 points
1 Alasdair Dickinson (Edinburgh Rugby) 35 caps, 2 tries, 10 points
2 Ross Ford (Edinburgh Rugby) 76 caps, 2 tries, 10 points
3 Geoff Cross (London Irish) 31 caps, 1 try, 5 points
4 Tim Swinson (Glasgow Warriors) 8 caps
5 Grant Gilchrist (Edinburgh Rugby) 7 caps, 1 try, 5 points, CAPTAIN
6 Robert Harley (Glasgow Warriors) 6 caps, 1 try, 5 points
7 Chris Fusaro (Glasgow Warriors) 3 caps
8 Adam Ashe (Glasgow Warriors) uncapped
Substitutes
16 Kevin Bryce (Glasgow Warriors) 1 cap
17 Moray Low (Exeter Chiefs) 28 caps
18 Euan Murray (Glasgow Warriors) 59 caps, 2 tries, 10 points
19 Jonny Gray (Glasgow Warriors) 4 caps
20 Tyrone Holmes (Glasgow Warriors) uncapped
21 Grayson Hart (Edinburgh Rugby) 2 caps
22 Dougie Fife (Edinburgh Rugby) 2 caps
23 Peter Murchie (Glasgow Warriors) 2 cap
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80 minites will seem like a century. Five players in your starting eight forwards have less than ten caps. Five out of seven backs will have less than fifteen caps. Only two players on your bench have more than four caps. If you take the front rows out, Victor Matfield will have double the caps of the rest in total.
 
Highlander35

Highlander35

Steve Williams (59)
Look, there are still some positives in that line-up.

Weir and Horne form a good right/left kicking combination. The other backs are all quite pacy, and should exploit any broken play. It's a strong front row unit, and the Locks are pretty good as well, despite lacking in experience.

But you can't take away from the fact that its a horrendous back row, and that bench is lacking so much experience.
 
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