Shute Shield 2016

[Dave Beat]

That's 15 top level players in 5 years.
15 players in a team - gee that aint half bad.

 

[Hugh Jarse]

To be fair, ASRU deliver about 20 NSW players to Colts each year (about 10 in a year there is no Aust A/Barbars).

These 20 have to be spread across 12 clubs. Even in a perfect socialist world 8 clubs would get 2 players allocated each year. Over 4 years that could amount to 8 players. So the Wix almost doubling that is not that big a rort.

Typically The Corporation get 3, the Wix also average around 3-4., One other club ( this varies from year to year) will get 3, with the rest of the clubs getting 1, occasionally 2 less Emus who are on a duck egg. The M2B and Pirates land a Schoolboy every couple of years.

It would be nice for there to be a more even distribution but these kids are 18-19 years old and not getting paid to play. Most clubs don't have the resources to assist with any relocation and on going housing expenses if they have to move away from home.

Also remember that many talented kids miss out on ASRU selection, and many ASRU reps don't carry that form into Colts/Grade.

Any club that promotes the line "we are promoting growth and depth in our roster through the Colts program" or words to the same general effect is saying that they are aggresively in the market for ASRU and NSWSRU graduates. Some are more successful than others, for a wide variety of factors.

TL;DR. All clubs do it. Some are better at it than others. It's more about perceived opportunities.

 

[formerflanker]

It would be nice for there to be a more even distribution but these kids are 18-19 years old and not getting paid to play. Most clubs don't have the resources to assist with any relocation and on going housing expenses if they have to move away from home.
TL;DR. All clubs do it. Some are better at it than others. It's more about perceived opportunities.

Randwick have taken another route by offering scholarships. The 2015 annual report lists 32 players with rugby scholarships. Several of them are in partnership with the University of NSW in the faculties of Business and Built Environment (the St Hilliers Scholarship).
I assume this is a similar concept to the way Sydney University attract young rugby players.
There must be a cost somewhere and I would argue that constitutes "getting paid to play".

 

[the coach]

Randwick have taken another route by offering scholarships. The 2015 annual report lists 32 players with rugby scholarships. Several of them are in partnership with the University of NSW in the faculties of Business and Built Environment (the St Hilliers Scholarship).
I assume this is a similar concept to the way Sydney University attract young rugby players.
There must be a cost somewhere and I would argue that constitutes "getting paid to play".

The Wicks scholarships vary significantly in value, there are very few full scholarships in my understanding and some are only worth a couple of thousand a year.

I've been told in the past (by a fringe first grader who moved from Uni to Wicks) that the corporation pay all fees as long as you continue to play for them and he was doing a post grad degree. Anyone know whether that's true?

 

[AussieDominance]

Gordon also has the agreement with UTS.

 

[Hugh Jarse]

Based on a post from @Bruce Ross a year or two back, Most of the Uni "Scholarships" are in kind (Waiving of rego fees, free/subsidized gym membership, free tracksuit and "stuff", mentoring and tutoring assistance) with little money changing hands, and the value is typically around the $2k mark.

Most of the "assistance" that their rock stars get seem to be via the Campus Colleges, and this is more along the lines of contra - subsidised food and board at the college. The Colleges are independent of the rugby club, but the Club are consulted by the Colleges as to which lads are worthy of receiving scholarships.

Like the Wix, the no cost education scholarships apparently exist as claimed above, but they are extremely rare. I understand that Gordon/UTS also have one of these per year as well. I also hear on the grapevine many players boasting on being on Scholarships and packages at those three (and other clubs) that I know for an absolute fact are nowhere near the value that the players (or parents) claim that they are. Similar to the Scholarships /enrollment anomalies that occur in the AAGPS system. Not all of them are equal.

And while the Tin Foil Hat Brigade are reaching for the pitchforks, the same sorts of Scholarship deals are available through the Elite Athlete Program at UNE in Armidale. Not sure that too many ASRU players explore that avenue for a subsidised education.

I think the scholarship thing is overrated, and most elite school leavers join clubs that they believe is in best interests to join, rather than the mob that is going to pay them the most, either in cash or kind. This is often related to the strength of the coaching program and the potential opportunities (as they perceive or believe them to be) for making the transition to U20 and Pro footy.

 

[wamberal]

Sydney University's location is an advantage in itself.



My principle criticism of the Corporation is primarily that it is not a district club. District clubs are, by definition, sited in the community, where the potential recruits live. They are also expected to do some cmmunity work, down to running junior teams.


The community is where we need to be. I have never said that SUFC does not deserve a seat at the top rugby table. What I have said is that it should use its advantages for the benefit of the whole game.


So they can attract Folau to their "club"? How about then seconding him to be "lent" to Parramatta or Penrith for the term of his playing career?

How about providing resources, in cash and/or in kind, to struggling clubs? Dave Dennis grew up in Penrith's catchment. He could give a bit back to them.

I mean, why the fark not?

 

[Hugh Jarse]

In many districts the junior village clubs receive SFA from the Shute Shield club in cash or kind.

Quite a few of the district rep teams for Junior State Champs receive the same from the Shute Shield club, apart from the right to wear their branding.

Some clubs are better than others.

 

[Dave Beat]

In many districts the junior village clubs receive SFA from the Shute Shield club in cash or kind.

Quite a few of the district rep teams for Junior State Champs receive the same from the Shute Shield club, apart from the right to wear their branding.

Some clubs are better than others.

Whilst we in this space, there are about 12 Shute Shield clubs who also receive SFA from the state unions to assist in growing the nursery that is important to grow.

 

[Spieber]

Sydney University's location is an advantage in itself.

My principle criticism of the Corporation is primarily that it is not a district club. District clubs are, by definition, sited in the community, where the potential recruits live. They are also expected to do some cmmunity work, down to running junior teams.

Uni does have junior teams, which are well supported (possibly at the top end of district clubs in this regard but happy to be corrected). You can check out the Annual Report. A number of ex-juniors are now in 1st grade. Not many as yet but increasing every year.

 

[The Galah]

Uni does have junior teams, which are well supported (possibly at the top end of district clubs in this regard but happy to be corrected). You can check out the Annual Report. A number of ex-juniors are now in 1st grade. Not many as yet but increasing every year.

So I get Uni's investment in the development of juniors in Tanya and Albo land and its feeder clubs are Balmain, Canterbury and Petersham in the same way for example that Roos , Raiders, Harbord , Allambie etc are the MMM's constituency. Not sure though how good little Johnny now grown up apprentice tradie of Petersham's prospects are of playing at Camperdown as a home grown colt. Is his community club Uni or Petersham?

 

[Oz talent]

The Wicks scholarships vary significantly in value, there are very few full scholarships in my understanding and some are only worth a couple of thousand a year.

I've been told in the past (by a fringe first grader who moved from Uni to Wicks) that the corporation pay all fees as long as you continue to play for them and he was doing a post grad degree. Anyone know whether that's true?

Won't say too much in this forum, but I can guarantee that what we offer our players via scholarships etc. is dust compared to what Buildcorp shells out for theirs.

 

[Stands]

This Weekends thoughts?

Easts v Souths Souths
Gordon v Eastwood Eastwood
Norths v Manly Norths
Penrith v Wests Wests
Randwick v Warringah Randwick
Uni v Parramatta Uni

 

[Hugh Jarse]

Round 18 Team Lists​

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Eastern Suburbs vs Southern Districts​

First Grade (Shute Shield)
Eastern Suburbs: 1. Steve Findlay, 2. Clarrie Moore, 3. Cam Betham, 4. Fergus Lee-Warner, 5. Michael Ross, 6. Joel Duffy, 7. Rowan Perry, 8, Sam Stitcher (c), 9. Angus Pulver, 10. Archie King, 11. Tom Merrit, 12. Josh Toole, 13. Alex Newsome, 14. Ratu Tagive, 15. Charlie Clifton
Southern Districts: 1. Matt Gibbon, 2. Brandon Paenga-Amosa, 3. Duncan Chubb, 4. Fili Tufui, 5. Angus Ryan, 6. Alex Perez, 7. Kieran Black, 8, Marcus Carbone, 9. DeWet Roos, 10. Rohan Saifoloi, 11. Ben Connolly, 12. Apolosi Latunipulu, 13. Denny Godinet, 14. Luke Smart, 15. Chris Nay

Second Grade (Colin Caird Shield)
Eastern Suburbs: 1. Liam Berry, 2. Chris Pusi, 3. Jack Payne, 4. Luke Cullinane, 5. Lachie Pigot, 6. Angus Brotherton, 7. Dan Elsom, 8, Liam Moylan, 9. Jack Grant, 10. Cohan Guerra, 11. Rowland Kotobalavu, 12. James Field, 13. Suaesi Iosua, 14. Will Paterson, 15. Rhys Corbishley
Southern Districts: 1. Salesi Maumalanga, 2. Liam Dwyer, 3. Willie Maumalanga, 4. Grant Staples, 5. Max Prieto, 6. John Palmer, 7. Nic Pinnisi, 8, Daniel Johnston, 9. Waldo Wessels, 10. Jason Hofmeyr, 11. Matt Teki, 12. Peter Camilleri, 13. Vili Tabuatamata, 14. Jake Kefford, 15. Kevin Locke

Third Grade (Henderson Shield)
Eastern Suburbs: 1. Matt Hooper, 2. Lindsey Stevens, 3. Zach Faumuina, 4. Guy Beever, 5. Tom Clifton, 6. Matt Mackay, 7. Alex King, 8, Luke Campbell, 9. Andrew Ferris, 10. Luke Jones, 11. Scott Ferris, 12. Ed Keohane, 13. Louis Taylor, 14. Henry Hart, 15. Sam Devlin
Southern Districts: 1. Sam Lindsay, 2. Max Holland, 3. Conor Young, 4. Richard Friedman, 5. Andrew Wilson, 6. Mitch Haworth, 7. Ed Leaney, 8, David Riley, 9. Jake Lubrano, 10. Rob James, 11. Luke Mataka, 12. Hawe Parata, 13. Salva Palamores, 14. Callum Quinn, 15. Tomas Merlo

Fourth Grade (Henderson Cup)
Eastern Suburbs: 1. Rhys Ward, 2. Henry Holden, 3. Damien Johnston, 4. Beau Jones, 5. Luke Wilson, 6. Alex Boronkay, 7. Henry Tilley, 8, Sam Zlatevski, 9. Luke Irwin, 10. Ben Porter, 11. Matt Eaton, 12. Liam Corbishley, 13. George Kokoulis, 14. Rory Thomson, 15. John Julian
Southern Districts: 1. Damien Byrne, 2. Jake Mealey, 3. Tom Dawes, 4. Pat Oarth, 5. Nelson Dale, 6. Brendan Tynan-Davey, 7. Rob Smith, 8, Patch Falson, 9. AJ Morris, 10. Sam Ryan, 11. Jared Elasi, 12. Bryce Campbell, 13. Michael McLoead, 14. Nick Turner, 15. Rob McDowell

Gordon vs Eastwood​

First Grade (Shute Shield)
Gordon: 1. Nick Fraser, 2. Tobias Guikabau, 3. Ben Sala, 4. Rui Wilson, 5. Andrew Seton, 6. Luke Papworth, 7. Alex Gregory, 8, Jack Maguire, 9. Terry Preston, 10. Erik Moss, 11. Brandon Quinn, 12. Bennet Leslie, 13. Matt McDougal, 14. Paula Balekana, 15. Sam Mete
Eastwood: 1. Sam Needs, 2. Damien Fitzpatrick, 3. Martin Plokstys, 4. James Neale, 5. Jared Barry, 6. Miles McCaffrey, 7. Cohen Masson, 8, Michael Kovacic, 9. Max Page, 10. Jai Ayoub, 11. Jarome MacKenzie, 12. Tom Hill, 13. Mike McDougall, 14. Cameron Mitchell, 15. Johnathan Malo

Second Grade (Colin Caird Shield)
Gordon: 1. Tom Parish, 2. Sam Milgate, 3. Aritema Ralulu, 4. Andrew Chapman, 5. Justin Rodgie, 6. Castellan Valentin, 7. Cameron Thorburn, 8, Will Pasi, 9. Alex barker, 10. Lachie Mitchel, 11. Ben Butler, 12. Alec Palmer, 13. Andrew Boyce, 14. Michael Manners, 15. Andrew Bligh
Eastwood: 1. Wayne Borsak, 2. Ed Craig, 3. Rob Lagudi, 4. Jackson Larkin, 5. Tom Alexander, 6. Lachie Cannell, 7. Tom Murphy, 8, Joey Afualo, 9. Gerard McTaggart, 10. Wes Sefuiva, 11. Jack Tourish, 12. Blake Sutton, 13. Ben James, 14. Nick O'Connor, 15. Mick Tamone

Third Grade (Henderson Shield)
Gordon: 1. Billy Naati, 2. Michael Balk, 3. Sean Fagan, 4. Seton Humphreys, 5. Sam Bennetts, 6. Conor Walsh, 7. Scott Nicol, 8, Luke Gardner, 9. Alex Simms, 10. Ross Aitken, 11. Scott Purcell, 12. David Serukai, 13. James Byrne, 14. Henry Broad, 15. James Fletcher
Eastwood: 1. Daniel Minto, 2. James Holden, 3. Dean Doumbos, 4. Josh Anderson, 5. Adam De Santis, 6. Nick Johnson, 7. Paul Ng Shiu, 8, Jack Warfield, 9. Patrick O'Connor, 10. Jackson Bird, 11. Sam McCaffrey, 12. Sione Fangia, 13. Tai Luani, 14. Mark Frost, 15. Jack Brooks

Fourth Grade (Henderson Cup)
Gordon: 1. JP Bae, 2. Drew Young, 3. Ace Naati, 4. Mark Philp, 5. Matt Pyne, 6. Dom Woodward, 7. Jordon Williams, 8, M. Grivas, 9. Will Shirvington, 10. Ben Tracey, 11. Zac Scott, 12. Andrew Jones, 13. Paul Katia, 14. Isaac Yun, 15. Adam Greaves
Eastwood: 1. Russell Josephs, 2. Luke Ferris, 3. Alex Pappalardo, 4. Sam Frogley, 5. Adrian Wyper, 6. David Feketi, 7. Conor O'Gorman, 8, Josh Harris, 9. Jordan Gillespie, 10. Nick Tregonning, 11. Tom Wilson, 12. Christian Hala, 13. Dave Sutton, 14. Andrew Ananin, 15. Brendan Maxworthy

Northern Suburbs vs Manly​

First Grade (Shute Shield)
Northern Suburbs: 1. Ezra Luxton, 2. Will Weeks, 3. Lawrance Hunting, 4. Nick Palmer, 5. James Brown, 6. Michael Smith, 7. Will Miller (c), 8, Hugh Sinclair (VC), 9. Mitch Magrath, 10. Angus Sinclair, 11. Lochie Creagh, 12. Irae Simone, 13. Jordan Heyer, 14. Stephan Van Der Walt, 15. Harry Burey
Manly: 1. Hayden Stringer, 2. James Hilterbrand, 3. Mitch Lewis, 4. Adrian Hall, 5. Ed Gower, 6. Dan Alley, 7. Harry Bergelin, 8, Junior Palau, 9. Tim Donlan, 10. Sam Lane (c), 11. Josh Turner, 12. Nick Holton, 13. Dennis Pili-Gaitau, 14. Richard Hooper, 15. Brenden Hartmann

Second Grade (Colin Caird Shield)
Northern Suburbs: 1. Kevin McNamara, 2. Sam Kitchen, 3. Daniel Murray (c), 4. Connor Vest, 5. Michael O'Hea, 6. Kyle Shewan, 7. Taylor Francis, 8, William Toola, 9. Tom Burnett, 10. Brendan Holliday, 11. Larry Hermens, 12. Jackson Selby, 13. Blake Murray, 14. Jack Grant, 15. Kurt Penney
Manly: 1. Villi Vaka, 2. Vance Elliot, 3. John Baranyi, 4. Manuel Castagnet, 5. Ryan Melrose, 6. Kotoni Ale, 7. James Graham, 8, Mitch Daniel (c), 9. Scott Bradley, 10. Shaun Treweek, 11. Chris Yarrington, 12. Oli Samuela, 13. Jacob Woodhouse, 14. Tom Chesters, 15. Kiwi Kapene-Belcher

Third Grade (Henderson Shield)
Northern Suburbs: 1. Will Hunting, 2. John Wunder, 3. Ben Ryan, 4. JaCK Harris, 5. Ben Molloy, 6. Jono Corliss, 7. Jack Davies, 8, Jack Booker, 9. Cale Holmes, 10. Josh Smith, 11. Adam Jones, 12. Lachlan Porteous(vc), 13. Alec McSpadden, 14. Kevin Reed, 15. Lachlan Rosengreen
Manly: 1. Alex Watson, 2. Dane Le Rougetel, 3. Dave Hart, 4. James Vail, 5. Saula Serukeibau, 6. Andrew Davis, 7. Will Foden, 8, Mark Watson, 9. Max Wood, 10. Jack Brisby, 11. Scott Clemmett, 12. Anthony Bergelin (c), 13. Jarrad Roberts, 14. Harley Attwater, 15. Ryan Squires

Fourth Grade (Henderson Cup)
Northern Suburbs: 1. James Knight, 2. Josh Clifton, 3. Ash Hall, 4. Al Hall, 5. Will Callanan, 6. Ben Martin, 7. Tommy Evans, 8, Ciaran MacWhite, 9. Dom Longhurst, 10. Joe Jenkins, 11. Hugh Adams, 12. Nick Marshall, 13. Lincoln Sparkes, 14. Nick Bracci, 15. Max Elmes
Manly: 1. Sosaia Soane, 2. Gota Wykamp, 3. Will Taufa, 4. Wesley Bindczuis, 5. Craig Parfitt, 6. Jackson Cooper, 7. Harry Tier, 8, Wayne Anae, 9. Nic Smart, 10. Brad Clarke (c), 11. Austin Osagie, 12. Ben Spring, 13. Ian Tapaatoutai, 14. Sullivan Jones, 15. Oppy Takonok

Penrith vs West Harbour​

First Grade (Shute Shield)
Penrith: 1. ikuna Manefetoa, 2. Fergus Mitra, 3. Monty Sopoaga, 4. Jake Banner, 5. Doug Want, 6. Jason Havea, 7. Tuitakau Kioa, 8, Taunaola Kei, 9. Joseph Faoagali, 10. Laione Iosefa, 11. Suni Fatialofa, 12. Keti Puilkala, 13. Paueli Halafihi, 14. Viliame Namoamou, 15. Joseph Tafili
West Harbour: 1. - 15. TBC

Second Grade (Colin Caird Shield)
Penrith: 1. Tevita Veikoso, 2. Jack Vandersteen, 3. Emmanuele Fumata, 4. Filipo Labalaba, 5. Tupea Mata'u, 6. Ben Vaii, 7. Mathew Faoagalia, 8, Peter Taatoe, 9. Hokulani Taupeamuhu, 10. Sami Sopoaga, 11. Sam Tailiili, 12. Junior Leo, 13. Leti Sotega, 14. Andrew Masinalupe, 15. David Isopo
West Harbour: 1. - 15. TBC

Third Grade (Henderson Shield)
Penrith: 1. Chris Tiatia, 2. Ridge Maxwell M Nelson, 3. laurnece Sovala, 4. Grant Edmondson, 5. Vaii Sosaite, 6. Sam Latu, 7. Sam Saiki, 8, Jay Purcell, 9. Craig Edmondson, 10. Saia Fapuaiki, 11. Harrison Potifala, 12. Sharma Masinalupe, 13. Etuale Salu, 14. Andrew Aione, 15. Connor Gartner
West Harbour: 1. - 15. TBC

Fourth Grade (Henderson Cup)
Penrith: 1. Paul Cummings, 2. Jeff Puikala, 3. Neil Nansen, 4. Ben Rabaud, 5. Sam Davetawwalli, 6. Colin Cheong, 7. Rhys Tucker, 8, Clayton Khan, 9. Luke Wright, 10. Jacob Burrell, 11. Tautitapu Jun Marsters, 12. Ratu Marika Camaisala, 13. Timothy Bottomly, 14. James Thring, 15. Richie Siafolau
West Harbour: 1. - 15. TBC

Randwick vs Warringah​

First Grade (Shute Shield) (Sir Roden Cutler VC Shield Challenge)
Randwick: 1. Sonny Satuala, 2. Peter Nau, 3. Tristan Goodbody, 4. Will Munro, 5. Nick Kellaway, 6. Sam Croke, 7. Mark Baldwin, 8, Stephen Hoiles, 9. Mitch Short, 10. Andrew Deegan, 11. Simon Kennewell, 12. Kuki Ma'afu, 13. Brogan Roods, 14. Alofa Alofa, 15. Lachie Anderson
Warringah: 1. Rory O'Connor, 2. Luke Holmes, 3. Manessah Alaga, 4. Jack Tompkins, 5. Ben Adams, 6. Paula Kaho, 7. Tom O'Connor, 8, Sam Ward, 9. Josh Holmes, 10. Hamish Angus, 11. Max Jones, 12. Rodney Esekia Iona, 13. Seb Wileman, 14. Harry Jones, 15. Tyson Davis

Second Grade (Colin Caird Shield)
Randwick: 1. Drew Ferguson, 2. Tevita Vea, 3. Michael Celona, 4. Jock Armstrong, 5. Lewis Taie, 6. Ed Kennedy, 7. Alex Harrod, 8, Will Lafolafo, 9. Luke Rowntree, 10. Harrison Goddard, 11. Charlie McKay, 12. Sam Gerry - Burgess, 13. Seamus Frost, 14. Toby Johnson, 15. Tom Coupland
Warringah: 1. Alatasi Tuituiohu, 2. Robert Kelly, 3. George Amosa, 4. Tim Poynting, 5. Jordan Reid, 6. John Mokofisi, 7. Adam Bate, 8, Pierce Howell, 9. Pat Curtin, 10. Josh Gillard, 11. Jack Sullivan, 12. Chris Arnold, 13. Michael Adams, 14. Sean Davies, 15. John Loseli

Third Grade (Henderson Shield)
Randwick: 1. Arturas Rachimanus, 2. Pat Hodgetts, 3. Henry Leslie, 4. Brad Houlihan, 5. Tom Wetherall, 6. Sam Harrison, 7. Logan Chin, 8, Tili Matakaiongo, 9. Andy Ball, 10. Sean Hardy, 11. Andy Early, 12. Jez Nelson, 13. Doug Brown, 14. Lachlan Kennealy, 15. Tom Wong
Warringah: 1. Jack Slack-Smith, 2. Matt Wedlake, 3. Jason Lautolo, 4. Alex Fowles, 5. Finlay Hillicks, 6. Michael Ritchie, 7. Jordan Fowles, 8, Sam Reid, 9. Calum Reid, 10. Luke Vescio, 11. Brayden Witham, 12. Harry Suters, 13. Liam Creeley, 14. Calum Blyth, 15. Daniel Saggus

Fourth Grade (Henderson Cup)
Randwick: 1. Jioje Aropio, 2. Tom Weber, 3. Al Kahua, 4. Lisi Fifita, 5. Valerio Ricci, 6. Jeremiah Morkos, 7. Luke Roughton, 8, Tim Murray, 9. Tony Luxford, 10. Connor Davis, 11. Alex Peterson, 12. Finau Makamaka, 13. Matt Considine, 14. Peter Wright, 15. Tom Booth
Warringah: 1. Pete Barrett, 2. Benny Benson, 3. Roy Vucago, 4. Hamish Finch, 5. Harrison Selby, 6. Jack Basham, 7. Jack Wheatley, 8, Tim Daleki, 9. Mitchell Hyde, 10. James Tooth, 11. Jackson Stariha, 12. Doug Dalziel, 13. Billy Simpson, 14. Mac Entwistle, 15. Josh Gerrard

Sydney University vs Parramatta​

First Grade (Shute Shield)
Sydney University: 1. Alex Batho, 2. Silatolu Latu, 3. Sione Talanoa, 4. Tipiloma Kaveinga, 5. Calum Buckling, 6. Folau Fainga'a, 7. Hamish Dunbar, 8, Jake Wainright, 9. Jake Gordon, 10. Stuart Dunbar, 11. Christian Kagiassis, 12. Thomas Carter, 13. Chris Ingate, 14. Henry Clunies Ross, 15. Angus Roberts
Parramatta: 1. David Lolohea, 2. Aaron Blacklock, 3. Nigel Vaifale, 4. Senio Toleafoa, 5. Sevaro Domoni, 6. Andrew Cox, 7. Pat Searson, 8, Tyrone Viiga, 9. Kaleb Rech, 10. Robbie Mate, 11. Robert Duff, 12. Moa Maliepo, 13. Frank Winterstein, 14. Josh Minhinnick, 15. Johnny Poe

Second Grade (Colin Caird Shield)
Sydney University: 1. Jordan Sukkar, 2. Elliot Messara, 3. Alastair Ryan, 4. Byron Hodge, 5. Jack Blair, 6. Sam Quinn, 7. Hugh Frazer, 8, Mitchell Whiteley, 9. Thomas Koerstz, 10. Jock Merriman, 11. Saia Tanginoa, 12. Fred Burdon, 13. Jack Redden, 14. Christian Yassmin, 15. Matthew Hood
Parramatta: 1. Nick Blacklock, 2. Liu Taituave, 3. Sione Fonua, 4. James Benton, 5. Riley Carter, 6. Riley Jacobson, 7. Adrian Musico, 8, Sione Fifita, 9. Simon Tevita, 10. Tom Woods, 11. Gabbi Kolinisau, 12. Sam Hayward, 13. Trent Winterstein, 14. Tui Faasisila, 15. Hayden Cole

Third Grade (Henderson Shield)
Sydney University: 1. Alasdair King, 2. Stewart Nutt, 3. Samuel Vaoga, 4. Oliver Gresham, 5. Rhys Dombkins, 6. Jack Stanford, 7. Byron Wicken, 8, Benjamin Carolan, 9. Alexander Jackman, 10. Edward L'Estrange, 11. Mesake Tagituimua, 12. Dylan Vieira, 13. Sam Barclay, 14. Ben Cannon, 15. Harrison Blake
Parramatta: 1. Inia Qereqeretabua, 2. Tapu Ongoongo, 3. Brendan Crosilla, 4. Peter Brush, 5. Chris Tolson, 6. Steve Brodbeck, 7. Jake Richardson, 8, Jacob Delailoa, 9. Liam Tully, 10. George Taufa, 11. Dylan Mario, 12. Ryan Aniseko, 13. Phil Pale, 14. Bryce Steel, 15. Lucas Baxter

Fourth Grade (Henderson Cup)
Sydney University: 1. Jack Bliss, 2. Jack Jones, 3. George Hudd, 4. Nateni Qicatabua, 5. Tinashe Washaya, 6. Tyne Holmes, 7. Malachy Mullin, 8, Maxwell Hughes, 9. Thomas Wilson, 10. William Macklin, 11. Dylan Oldfield, 12. Cameron Mason, 13. William Davies, 14. Fidias Efthymious, 15. Nicholas Burden
Parramatta: 1. Vila Fangufangu, 2. Gerald Dzirutwe, 3. Lui Sakaria, 4. Jimmy Orake, 5. Sam Domoni, 6. Fili Taufa, 7. Brett Gillett, 8, Koni Tuitupou, 9. Jonathon Lagos, 10. Tim Holliday, 11. Stirling Savona, 12. Ray Samoa, 13. Marcus Gillespie, 14. George Ili, 15. Mario Savona

 

[Oz talent]

This Weekends thoughts?

Easts v Souths- Souths by 18
Gordon v Eastwood- Eastwood by 3
Norths v Manly- Norths by 20+
Penrith v Wests- Pirates
Randwick v Warringah - Randwick with a bonus point
Uni v Parramatta - Buildcorp

 

[The Galah]

Souths, Woods but not by much, MMM's also in a close one,Penrith (why not), Rats , Uni .

Either way at Nth Sydney I'll have a lazy monkey on MMM's at 20+ . Oz t Dave Beat and I will meet you under the fig tree to collect at full-time.

 

[I like to watch]

This Weekends thoughts?

Easts v Souths- Souths by 18
Gordon v Eastwood- Eastwood by 3
Norths v Manly- Norths by 20+
Penrith v Wests- Pirates
Randwick v Warringah - Randwick with a bonus point
Uni v Parramatta - Buildcorp

I wish this was a betting exchange and not a forum

I'd love to take your start on both Easts & Marlins ( This is by far best side Marlins have fielded all year,so I'm on the fence on that game)
not sure you're on the money with Wicks either!
And despite Gordon's talent for dragging the opposition down to their level,I can't see anything but a convincing Woodies victory.

 

[MACCA]

Haydaze - you don't belong here bugger off back to the gutter


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[Dave Beat]

Haydaze - you don't belong here bugger off back to the gutter


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Cheers, i was going to post; Blowin I'll be back to you in the morning.

 

[Oz talent]

Went out to North Sydney today to suss out the new SS Grand Final venue. I don't mind it, and if it's going to make the $RU a bit of cash, why not?
I've got to say, that shot from the Manly 7 before half time should definitely have been a yellow card. Not sure how it looked on television, but I reckon he should have gone for sure!
Disappointing to see my Wicks go down, but Rats are my clear second facourite team so I'll cop it.
Onwards and upwards...
Up the Wicks!