Shute Shield 2015

[Inside Shoulder]

The Foundation is just a great idea.

its just more abdication of responsibility and subcontracting out the heavy lifting.
For what part of the game does the ARU see itself as having a long term responsibility?

 

[wamberal]

its just more abdication of responsibility and subcontracting out the heavy lifting.
For what part of the game does the ARU see itself as having a long term responsibility?

Dear oh bloody dear. So let me get this straight. How on earth is the establishment of a Foundation an "abdication of responsibility?"


As I understand it, the Foundation will be a vehicle for the game's supporters to put money into a future fund for the benefit of the game.


I, for one, will definitely be making a donation. Will you? Or are you going to abdicate your responsibility?

 

[Inside Shoulder]

I, for one, will definitely be making a donation. Will you? Or are you going to abdicate your responsibility?

Like you I have been making donations to the rugby future fund since I was 5 and will no doubt continue to do so, both directly and indirectly.
I am not the one who made the unjustified withdrawals.

 

[wamberal]

I would have liked this post but I juts cant accept the bolded bit.
The very reason it is the ARU who should be blamed is because it is the ARU that is responsible the overarching interests of the game - you can throw the Tahs/NSWRU in there as well: Uni, on the other hand, are charged with doing the best for uni.

Well, mate, all stakeholders have a responsibility for the health of the game as a whole. Especially those who are in a relatively privileged position, like the Camperdown Clique. Wouldn't it be a good thing if they could spread a bit of their wealth and power (some of which derives from the public purse, one way or another) to do something to grow the game in less privileged arreas?

 

[wamberal]

Like you I have been making donations to the rugby future fund since I was 5 and will no doubt continue to do so, both directly and indirectly.
I am not the one who made the unjustified withdrawals.

Bully for you. Can you provide a list of the unjustified withdrawals?

 

[Inside Shoulder]

Bully for you. Can you provide a list of the unjustified withdrawals?

An incomplete but blindingly obvious one:
Sailor
Tiquiri
Tahu
John O'Neill
Beale (last renewal)
Folau

Well, mate, all stakeholders have a responsibility for the health of the game as a whole. Especially those who are in a relatively privileged position, like the Camperdown Clique. Wouldn't it be a good thing if they could spread a bit of their wealth and power (some of which derives from the public purse, one way or another) to do something to grow the game in less privileged arreas?

You specifically excused the one organisation responsible for the game in the whole of Australia, who paid the top up to get Folau, from blame, preferring to blame an entity whose responsibility is confined to a triangle between Parramatta Road, Camperdown Road and King Street.
I disagree strongly with the propensity of Uni and Randwick to attract elite player's to their club but controlling that is within the power of there ARU/NSWRU and the Tahs.
i think you'll find that Uni rugby is not paid for by we the tax payers but I'll let true believers defend that one.

 

[wamberal]

If you think that the signing of Folau was a waste of money, then I respect your right to your opinions, but cannot seriously debate this any further with you.




Incidentally, the ARU is all we've got to run the game. I have known a couple of people over the years who have given huge service, unpaid, at the top level. People of the highest calibre, with strong and successful track records in business. Second-guessing their decisions might make you feel good, but it is pretty stupid.

 

[Hugh Jarse]

We, the taxpayers, are paying for Gordon (UTS Sponsorship), Randwick (UNSW Sponsorship), Sydney Uni (Various Sydney Uni schools sponsorship), Australian 7's programme (AIS and Aust Olympic Committee sponsorship/funding) to name but a few. Most of these "taxpayer funds" are allocated following auditable and transparent business decisions made by a properly governed body empowered to make those decisions.

We, the ratepayers, are paying for nearly all clubs who enjoy access to community owned grounds, and infrastructure, most of which are rented/leased to them at well below market rates.

 

[MACCA]

We, the taxpayers, are paying for Gordon (UTS Sponsorship), Randwick (UNSW Sponsorship), Sydney Uni (Various Sydney Uni schools sponsorship), Australian 7's programme (AIS and Aust Olympic Committee sponsorship/funding) to name but a few. Most of these "taxpayer funds" are allocated following auditable and transparent business decisions made by a properly governed body empowered to make those decisions.

We, the ratepayers, are paying for nearly all clubs who enjoy access to community owned grounds, and infrastructure, most of which are rented/leased to them at well below market rates.

Speaking of grounds......
Any chance we will see some Rugby this weekend or will the grounds be converted to swimming pools to watch aqua aerobics instead. Coogee recovers well, however it is hoped the rain stops tomorrow or it may be closed Saturday.

 

[Hugh Jarse]

Grade Games this weekend are at Chatswood Oval, Manly Oval, North Sydney Oval, Nepean Rugby Park, Coogee Oval and Concord Oval.

Only Nepean Rugby Park and Concord don't have cricket pitches on them.

The cricket pitches at Chatswood, Coogee and Manly Oval's are a bugger to play on when they are wet. Can't recall any really wet games at North Sydney Oval but I reckon that would be as slippery as the rest of them.

At least there is no game for Uni No 1. That becomes an absolute mud bath in the wet. Hopefully the redeveloped No 2 oval will have better drainage.

 

[Inside Shoulder]

Incidentally, the ARU is all we've got to run the game.

We should be grateful anyone is prepared to "run the game"? i don't second guess them - I call these decisions for what they are prior to being made.
What is "the game"? Is that the one you want to turn into league, the elite level or the grass roots (recalling that the grass roots are to be funded from donations to a foundation)?

 

[boyo]

and then Tony went to the Royal Oak in Balmain and Skolled a middie of Mid-strength Peroni

Didn't this occur at the Royal Oak in Double Pay?

 

[Slim 293]

we were honoured to have in attendance for the special day Tony Abbott, Alan Jones, Mike Baird

Were you really.......... honoured?

 

[Dave Beat]

Were you really.... honoured?

Brutally honest - I certainly am now, whilst I was prior I wasn't sure what to expect.
Before I go any further, rugby forum & not a political forum so if we are talking different wings they can fly elsewhere.

• Function started around 12, guessing Tony left between 5 & 6 and he mingled freely though whole time.
• Find out the next day he went on and socialised at the Royal Oak, not sure what time he finished.
• Next I hear he is doing stuff in NZ, and I think shit I only met the guy yesterday how did he get there.
• Then off to Turkey.

His job is 24 / 7 and he needs to be on the ball and ready every second. What he does aside, man that is one tough gig, and yeah I'm truly honoured.

I work hard Monday to Friday without being watched by every man, dog, possum and owl, and I get to see my family every night.

There was no show for the media because 7Two hasn't visited Manly yet, just punters who were there to enjoy rugby and he was one of them - a good bloke.

Plus Manly Rugby put on a great day.

Cheers,

 

[Inside Shoulder]

Brutally honest - I certainly am now, whilst I was prior I wasn't sure what to expect.
Before I go any further, rugby forum & not a political forum so if we are talking different wings they can fly elsewhere.

• Function started around 12, guessing Tony left between 5 & 6 and he mingled freely though whole time.
• Find out the next day he went on and socialised at the Royal Oak, not sure what time he finished.
• Next I hear he is doing stuff in NZ, and I think shit I only met the guy yesterday how did he get there.
• Then off to Turkey.

His job is 24 / 7 and he needs to be on the ball and ready every second. What he does aside, man that is one tough gig, and yeah I'm truly honoured.


I work hard Monday to Friday without being watched by every man, dog, possum and owl, and I get to see my family every night.

There was no show for the media because 7Two hasn't visited Manly yet, just punters who were there to enjoy rugby and he was one of them - a good bloke.

Plus Manly Rugby put on a great day.

Cheers,

I think it was Allan Jones' presence he was questioning as an honour

(But I know you Manly boys forgive him his sins)

 

[Slim 293]

I think it was Allan Jones' presence he was questioning as an honour

(But I know you Manly boys forgive him his sins)

Nah, definitely all 3..............

 

[Beer on the hill]

whats the bloody foundation guna do for our game anyway?
Club rugby needs funding in NSW Qld and ACT urgently

 

[Dave Beat]

Anzac Day at Manly;
Our home fixture versus Southern District this weekend sees the commemoration of the centenary of ANZAC 2015, and we will be hosting many of the Sporting Clubs of Manly whose members in 1915 were killed in the service of our county during the Gallipoli campaign. These local clubs held a unique record with the most volunteers to serve in WW1 of any town in Australia.

In a tribute to sporting clubs of the 1915, a special parade will march onto Manly Oval in a re-enactment of a rally for the troops held on the Oval a 100 years ago. The parade will be presented to the Mayor of Manly and short service will conclude with "The Calling of Manly’s Fallen" along with the Manly's 1915 Ceremonial Party & Piper.


The Last Post will be sounded with the various club’s "juniors & nippers" placing ribbons on the oval picket fence just before First Grade kick off at 3pm.

 

[the coach]

Anzac Day at Manly;
Our home fixture versus Southern District this weekend sees the commemoration of the centenary of ANZAC 2015, and we will be hosting many of the Sporting Clubs of Manly whose members in 1915 were killed in the service of our county during the Gallipoli campaign. These local clubs held a unique record with the most volunteers to serve in WW1 of any town in Australia.

In a tribute to sporting clubs of the 1915, a special parade will march onto Manly Oval in a re-enactment of a rally for the troops held on the Oval a 100 years ago. The parade will be presented to the Mayor of Manly and short service will conclude with "The Calling of Manly’s Fallen" along with the Manly's 1915 Ceremonial Party & Piper.


The Last Post will be sounded with the various club’s "juniors & nippers" placing ribbons on the oval picket fence just before First Grade kick off at 3pm.

Dave, sounds amazing. Not sure what the plan is for Coogee this Saturday, but I'm sure it will include a bugler playing the last post. Sends tingles down my spine every time I hear it. The great thing about Rugby is you know there will actually be a minute's silence. Unfortunately the other code's supporters seem to see it as an opportunity to ensure every one in the ground can hear their shouted stupidities.

On another note, you'd have to wonder why Manly v Southern is not the TV game this week. I see 7TWO are running the network's coverage of Anzac Day on Saturday (why couldn't it have been on 7Mate?) so the SS is on Sunday again, but were you guys asked to move the game to Sunday?

 

[The_Brown_Hornet]

Dave, sounds amazing. Not sure what the plan is for Coogee this Saturday, but I'm sure it will include a bugler playing the last post. Sends tingles down my spine every time I hear it. The great thing about Rugby is you know there will actually be a minute's silence. Unfortunately the other code's supporters seem to see it as an opportunity to ensure every one in the ground can hear their shouted stupidities.

I'm proud to say that when we last had a Force home game on Anzac day you could hear a pin drop in that place for the entire observance. Made the hair stand up on the back of my neck it did.