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Billy Sheehan (19)
On the topic of a national comp, i think you need to stick with clubs that are recognised...
Maybe the shute shield cut to 12/13 rounds, and the top 3 or 4 from the sydney, canberra, QLD comp plus a barbarian type side of leftover guys from those clubs missing out to help bolster sides from perth & melbourne. this comp could go for the next 12 weeks after club rugby ends. Imagine the crowds of Randwick vs Brothers at Coogee or Sydney Uni vs GPS at Uni Oval!?! Would be awesome...
Just an idea anyway!
Maybe the shute shield cut to 12/13 rounds, and the top 3 or 4 from the sydney, canberra, QLD comp plus a barbarian type side of leftover guys from those clubs missing out to help bolster sides from perth & melbourne. this comp could go for the next 12 weeks after club rugby ends. Imagine the crowds of Randwick vs Brothers at Coogee or Sydney Uni vs GPS at Uni Oval!?! Would be awesome...
Just an idea anyway!
For social atmosphere it's hard to beat Manly, and Uni, Oval(s). And don't forget North Sydney Oval, pretty as a picture with an exellent playing surface to boot. But they're all ovals, none of these three have a stand square on to the rugby field, and they all have cricket pitches. The best of these to play rugby on is North Sydney but Manly turns into a gluepot with a drop of rain while Uni's degenerates into a slippery, sliding mess. That's why none of these grounds get a finals match. Millner's a much better ground to play, and watch, rugby.
lily
Vay Wilson (31)
Seymour has struggled with his goal kicking and field generalship. An example would have been earlier in the year when in the rain he kept directing the Manly attack onto the pitch area which wasn't extremely bright. You could leave him at flyhalf but then you would have to get rid of Milroy who is experienced or the soon to be returning Hartmann. You'd think the backline going into the semis would go something like this.
9. Cottee
10.Ripia/ Seymour
11.Siale/Woodhouse/Reti
12.Coleman/Gilmore
13.Sefenaia/A.Smith/Woodhouse
14.Yarrington/Sefenaia/A.Smith
15.A.Smith/Milroy/Hartmann
As for the forwards I dont know how you find a place for Jones or Peterson.
9. Cottee
10.Ripia/ Seymour
11.Siale/Woodhouse/Reti
12.Coleman/Gilmore
13.Sefenaia/A.Smith/Woodhouse
14.Yarrington/Sefenaia/A.Smith
15.A.Smith/Milroy/Hartmann
As for the forwards I dont know how you find a place for Jones or Peterson.
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Trevor Allan (34)
I am pretty sure it plays a part at Manly and Uni as well. But at North Sydney a lot of the reason for Norths not hosting finals matches is due to the cricket season coming up and the groundsmen being a cricketer(not a Norths cricketer but a Randwick cricketer and ex Randwick Rugby Player). Coogee is a bit different as the council don't undertake the maintenance of the ground Green Options does and gives the Cricket and Rugby Clubs a lump sump of money. Manly Cricket I know are almost over protective of the Manly Oval square(giving instructions not to play this game on dates already played this season!) still nearly three months till the cricket season!
Of the other grounds Chatswood Oval gets taken over by Cricket all through August on Sundays and has a recovery period usually.
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Ken Catchpole (46)
Rebels’ restructure
BY BRAD FORREST
07 Jul, 2011 04:00 AM
SOUTHERN Districts have appointed their former state representative back rower Steve Talbot to take over as first grade coach for the remainder of the season.
While the club announced this week that coach Darren Bray had opted to take up a new development role, the Leader understands club power-brokers — worried about the team’s slide down the 2011 Shute Shield rugby ladder — moved to replace him several weeks ago.
Several options were examined, including discussions with the ACT Brumbies coaching staff.
On Tuesday, Souths president Neville Shooter and his board announced a coaching restructure — that Bray had agreed to a new role of identifying, retaining, recruiting, welfare and development of young players in the area, and that a new coach would be appointed.
The red-headed Talbot had already agreed to take over as head coach, assisted by Max Currie, Talbot’s former coach at Forshaw Rugby Park, and forwards coach Cameron Blades and Matt Barr.
That night Talbot and the club’s major backer, Kevin Maloney, addressed the players before training, ahead of their home game this Saturday against West Harbour.
Currie said his former star pupil would leave players ‘‘in no doubts about what he expected’’.
‘‘Many judges consider Steve to be one of the best back rowers never to play for Australia,’’ Currie said. ‘‘He will do a good job. Steve was immensely loyal to this club and his state, at a time when he could have easily gone to Canberra to play under eventual Wallabies coach Rod Macqueen, at the Brumbies.’’
Talbot’s illustrious playing career included more than 200 Sydney first grade games and a regular member of the NSW Waratahs for six years, captaining the team in 2002.
He has experience coaching Colts and grade, including winning a reserve grade premiership with Easts, as well as the Waratah Under 19s, and he helped establish the Waratahs Academy.
Shooter said Bray, who got the first grade side to the finals last season, would now concentrate on identifying and retaining the best juniors, with an established pathway to Super Rugby level and beyond travelled recently by the likes of club champions Rob Horne, Dan Palmer and Kane Douglas.
‘‘The program intends to have the many players that move into the private school system return to the club after leaving school [instead of] being recruited by other Shute Shield clubs,’’ Shooter said.
Bray will also mentor junior representative team coaches.
In thanking Bray, Shooter said he would be remembered after Souths’ 10 straight victories last season, something that ‘‘restored the pride of many rugby followers associated with the club’’
BY BRAD FORREST
07 Jul, 2011 04:00 AM
SOUTHERN Districts have appointed their former state representative back rower Steve Talbot to take over as first grade coach for the remainder of the season.
While the club announced this week that coach Darren Bray had opted to take up a new development role, the Leader understands club power-brokers — worried about the team’s slide down the 2011 Shute Shield rugby ladder — moved to replace him several weeks ago.
Several options were examined, including discussions with the ACT Brumbies coaching staff.
On Tuesday, Souths president Neville Shooter and his board announced a coaching restructure — that Bray had agreed to a new role of identifying, retaining, recruiting, welfare and development of young players in the area, and that a new coach would be appointed.
The red-headed Talbot had already agreed to take over as head coach, assisted by Max Currie, Talbot’s former coach at Forshaw Rugby Park, and forwards coach Cameron Blades and Matt Barr.
That night Talbot and the club’s major backer, Kevin Maloney, addressed the players before training, ahead of their home game this Saturday against West Harbour.
Currie said his former star pupil would leave players ‘‘in no doubts about what he expected’’.
‘‘Many judges consider Steve to be one of the best back rowers never to play for Australia,’’ Currie said. ‘‘He will do a good job. Steve was immensely loyal to this club and his state, at a time when he could have easily gone to Canberra to play under eventual Wallabies coach Rod Macqueen, at the Brumbies.’’
Talbot’s illustrious playing career included more than 200 Sydney first grade games and a regular member of the NSW Waratahs for six years, captaining the team in 2002.
He has experience coaching Colts and grade, including winning a reserve grade premiership with Easts, as well as the Waratah Under 19s, and he helped establish the Waratahs Academy.
Shooter said Bray, who got the first grade side to the finals last season, would now concentrate on identifying and retaining the best juniors, with an established pathway to Super Rugby level and beyond travelled recently by the likes of club champions Rob Horne, Dan Palmer and Kane Douglas.
‘‘The program intends to have the many players that move into the private school system return to the club after leaving school [instead of] being recruited by other Shute Shield clubs,’’ Shooter said.
Bray will also mentor junior representative team coaches.
In thanking Bray, Shooter said he would be remembered after Souths’ 10 straight victories last season, something that ‘‘restored the pride of many rugby followers associated with the club’’
Slash
Bill Watson (15)
Each to their own Lily, however in my opinion I believe your unwavering love of your home team has left you with rose coloured glasses on. Manly Oval is crap to watch the footy. If you end up sitting more than 1/4 of the way back in the grandstand, you're a kilometre away. The elevation is good, but you are miles away. The dressing rooms for the away teams are sauna's and inadequate for treating injured players. The beers are warm and the pies cold (must be to keep all the pommy backpackers in town happy).They regularly under cater on the BBQ and usually run out by half time in reserve grade. Their lower grades stand behind the corner post on the top of the hill, drunk as skunks, throwing rubbish everywhere and their behaviour is a complete embarrassment to not only the club but the code in general.
There was a reason why rugby league moved away from playing on the circular ovals...................the view and tv coverage is shithouse........and that decision was made in the 80s.......disturbing to see rugby still hasnt cottoned on yet!
lily
Vay Wilson (31)
Slash believe it or not but I in the past have been critical of Manly. Their recruitment drive this year has been done at the expense of local players. I'll let you in on something the visitors changerooms are actually better than the ones for the home team. Maybe you are right about viewing concerns, for me it is about the viewing and social experience. My kids can go and play football on the Eastern Side of the oval during the game and it is a good chance to catch up with people. Not sure about the your problems with food or drink, there is a canteen that sells Michels products and the BBQ doesn't run out of food at half time in second grade very often. The drunks on the hill are only really vocal during Rats games and for the occassional Uni game so I'm not sure that they are an embarrassment to the game. I would have thought the incident at the Joeys/View game was alot worse. But then again it was at a GPS game.
The main problem is the design of the grandstand. If the rain is falling at an angle because of the wind you get wet up the top of the stand. The same problem exists at the top of the members area at the SFS.
Finally ground availability seems to be one of the issues that forces teams to still share ovals with cricket teams.
The main problem is the design of the grandstand. If the rain is falling at an angle because of the wind you get wet up the top of the stand. The same problem exists at the top of the members area at the SFS.
Finally ground availability seems to be one of the issues that forces teams to still share ovals with cricket teams.
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John Eales (66)
I can see the good social aspects of Manly Oval and it's great to see the kids on the ground, though I worry about the kids playing on the eastern side as the players get very close to them sometimes. And yeah I saw the drunks as I walked out of the ground in the Rats game but they were all Manly supporters. You could tell by the content of their league crowd hoon type comments who they were going for though a couple of them were quite funny.
For one who goes to a ground only for the rugby the ground stinks. Play is too far away and the cricket pitch area after or during rain spoils the rugby, though it is not as bad as Uni Oval.
TG Milner and Rat Park are not attractive grounds from a social point of view, except the club area at Milner, though the kids are allowed to play on the ground between games and at half time - but you can't beat them for being close to the action.
There's not a ground in Sydney that is a cricket ground also that I like. The best is probably Shore's home ground but that doesn't qualify in this thread - and not to the point either, but Knox is one of the best, provided it's not raining because there is no cover except at one end: in the building.
For one who goes to a ground only for the rugby the ground stinks. Play is too far away and the cricket pitch area after or during rain spoils the rugby, though it is not as bad as Uni Oval.
TG Milner and Rat Park are not attractive grounds from a social point of view, except the club area at Milner, though the kids are allowed to play on the ground between games and at half time - but you can't beat them for being close to the action.
There's not a ground in Sydney that is a cricket ground also that I like. The best is probably Shore's home ground but that doesn't qualify in this thread - and not to the point either, but Knox is one of the best, provided it's not raining because there is no cover except at one end: in the building.
I totally agree. Everything is so much better on rectangular fields though teams like Gordon (yeah I gotta stop talking about my own team) don't really have that option. No rectangular fields on the upper north shore afaik except for Knox Grammar School Rugby Field which is excellent. Plenty of seating, digital scoreboard, close to the action, right next to Warrawee station. Would actually be great if Gordon played home games there, someone told me Eastwood once played a home game there because TG Milner's ground was in a mess? Can anybody 2nd that? doesn't sound right.Slash said:
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John Eales (66)
Yeah right on top of the hill too so it drains well. Having to get a leg over the back gate to tie down a cushion with a dog lead on Friday night to 'bags' as seat is a hoot - never been caught.
I don't know how much longer I can get a leg over for though.
The smell of the dressing room and the toilets can be on the nose but it depends where the wind is blowing. And the crowd - such thoughtful suggestions to the referees.
Hard to beat really.
I don't know how much longer I can get a leg over for though.
The smell of the dressing room and the toilets can be on the nose but it depends where the wind is blowing. And the crowd - such thoughtful suggestions to the referees.
Hard to beat really.
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Keithy
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Sam followed Woodhouse from the Pirates. The Pirates didn't keep in contact with him so he contacted Woodhouse who was more than happy to accomodate Wykes.
He's deserted the Pirates for those bible-bashing bastards up at Millner. As if Eastwood needs another Super player to help them up the ladder...
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Phil Kearns (64)
How many Super Rugby players play for the Woodies? Without being bothered to do the sums, I would guess that Eastwood has a lower percentage of Super Rugby players than any of the other leading teams, and the bulk of those are local products.
lily
Vay Wilson (31)
I just did a double agree. The reason why I think the Woods should be applauded is their back 5. These players have played all 2010 together as well as this year, Cameron Mitchell being the only other guy when available. If I was a S15 coach I'd have a look at Piukala, Alexander and even someone like Bennetts.
Josh Dunning and Ben on the other Hand will not be too impressed.
I hope the Marlins bring there A game next weekend.
Josh Dunning and Ben on the other Hand will not be too impressed.
I hope the Marlins bring there A game next weekend.
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Keithy
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Go to the West harbour website Wykes has not been listed. Look for Sidey to make a move probably next season.
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