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Should the IRB help Fiji pay for its RWC Campaign?

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Ali's Choice

Jimmy Flynn (14)
Seems like Fiji may not be able to afford to send a team to NZ. I know that the Fiji Rugby Union is a finanical basket-case and rife with allegations of corruption, but can the IRB afford not to have them at the RWC? Given the millions the IRB will reap from the tournament, and the massive costs involved to refund tickets and TV rights to their matches, does the IRB need to seriously consider assisting the Pacific Island nation?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/r...ugby-World-Cup

Fiji claim they can't afford Rugby World Cup



Last updated 14:54 28/05/2011


The head of Fiji's rugby union said his organisation doesn't have enough money to send a team to this year's Rugby World Cup in New Zealand, according to local media reports.
Colonel Mosese Tikoitoga said a report presented to the union's board by team manager Pio Bosco Tikoisuva showed that 5 million Fijian dollars ($2.8 million) was needed to properly prepare a team for the tournament starting in September.
Tikoitoga said the Fiji team had no major sponsor and the union was still in discussions with the government over its promised World Cup funding package of 3 million Fijian dollars ($1.7 million).
He said a subcommittee has been formed to focus on the funding issue, including the search for sponsorship.
The government approved the release of the first 400,000 Fijian dollars ($220,000) of the promised World Cup fund last month, but it is not clear whether the union had received the money or if the remainder will be paid.
The government had used its offer of financial assistance to pressure the union to sack its previous board which had been in dispute with the country's leaders over its management of a World Cup lottery.
All members of the previous board were voted out at the union's annual general meeting last month and a new board was installed, headed by Tikoitoga.
Fiji plans to hold its first trial for World Cup team places on June 3. It will then name an initial 50-man squad the following day.
Tikoisuva told the Fiji Broadcasting Corporation on Friday that the country has a greater depth of players than in the past and could potentially take its best team ever to the World Cup.
Fiji, which reached the quarterfinals of the 2007 World Cup in France, previously had trouble gaining access to its top players, particularly its best forwards playing for clubs in Europe or Japan. Tikoisuva said it seems likely that all of Fiji's overseas players will be available this year and there would be considerable competition for spots on the squad.
"That's the area that has been a concern for FRU for a long time," he said. "Overall, we have got a wider range of quality players to select from than the 2007 World Cup team."
Complicating matters, however, is the fact that New Zealand Prime Minister John Key said his government will not bow to pressure from the International Rugby Board to relax travel sanctions against Fiji during the World Cup.
After Commodore Frank Bainimarama seized power in the island nation in a 2006 coup, New Zealand imposed measures that prevent Fijian citizens with links to the military regime from entering the country.

"At the end of the day, we don't take our riding instructions from the IRB," Key said in a radio interview. "Our view is that we want to see democracy restored in Fiji. This is the only thing that we've got that holds their feet to the fire."
- AP
 

ChargerWA

Mark Loane (55)
It's a tough one, the prick in me says let them suffer, but that doesn't help the Fijians supporters.

The IRB needs to figure out how much of this is a genuine appeal, and how much it is a military junta trying to not put it's hand it's pocket, because they know those stupid old fuddy duddys at the IRB will just prop them up.
 

Ali's Choice

Jimmy Flynn (14)
It's a tough one, the prick in me says let them suffer, but that doesn't help the Fijians supporters.

The IRB needs to figure out how much of this is a genuine appeal, and how much it is a military junta trying to not put it's hand it's pocket, because they know those stupid old fuddy duddys at the IRB will just prop them up.

My issue is, you cannot have pools in the RWC with uneven numbers. Qualifying for the knock out stages of the comp needs to be at least over an equal numer of games. The closer we get to the RWC, the less the IRB can ignore this issue.
 

Piglet

Herbert Moran (7)
This is all about the politics, and a thinly veiled threat to the IRB (using an excuse of lack of money), to pressure NZ into allowing the military government and its representatives to be allowed into NZ for the RWC.

There's more than enough money to send a team to NZ. Those in power just have to stop spending it on themselves.

I hope that NZ stands firm on this matter.
 

Ali's Choice

Jimmy Flynn (14)
This is all about the politics, and a thinly veiled threat to the IRB (using an excuse of lack of money), to pressure NZ into allowing the military government and its representatives to be allowed into NZ for the RWC.

There's more than enough money to send a team to NZ. Those in power just have to stop spending it on themselves.

I hope that NZ stands firm on this matter.

So you are suggesting that the NZRU should sort out this issue? Given that they will be severely out of pocket should Fiji withdraw, are you saying that they should fund Fiji's RWC campaign?
 

matty_k

Peter Johnson (47)
Both piglet and Ali's Choice are right on this one.
The Fijian team deserves to be there but we can't reward the Fijian govt. (or whatever) for not releasing the funds that their team deserves.

There has to be a way to fund the team and not the hangers on.
 

Piglet

Herbert Moran (7)
So you are suggesting that the NZRU should sort out this issue? Given that they will be severely out of pocket should Fiji withdraw, are you saying that they should fund Fiji's RWC campaign?

No. I am saying that NZ has a right to, and should continue to deny entry to Fiji's military government.

When I referred to those in power, I was meaning the Fiji military government. Apologies if I was not clear.

The IRB show not bow to this claim of a lack of funds. Fiji will find the funds and they will turn up.
 

rugbysmartarse

Alan Cameron (40)
My issue is, you cannot have pools in the RWC with uneven numbers. Qualifying for the knock out stages of the comp needs to be at least over an equal numer of games. The closer we get to the RWC, the less the IRB can ignore this issue.
Surely the next ranked team gets thrown in. Play the last ranked south American, European, African and Asian team in a round robin?
 

Aussie D

Desmond Connor (43)
The IRB could investigate the feasibility of forwarding Fiji their tournament participation money in the form of airline tickets for the players and officials and covering the cost of their accomodation. Once the tournament is over and they are divying up the money to the participating nations they can recoup the money forwarded to Fiji.

The second issue raised, about visas - IMHO the NZ government could give dispensation to Fijian players (only if they are regarded as worthy of playing international rugby by people outside of Fiji) to participate in the tournament, I would not extend the same hospitality to team officials or government officials. I would do this as I want Fiji to take the strongest team possible to the World Cup and hope they match their efforts in 2007.
 

Jnor

Peter Fenwicke (45)
Isn't Greg Mumm coaching their WC effort? Wonder what he thinks of this issue?
 

darkhorse

Darby Loudon (17)
They'll go regardless. All they have to pay for is the flight over. I'd sleep in a tent to play in a world cup
 

Jets

Paul McLean (56)
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Don't give them any money. If Fiji don't go to the World Cup the people will uprise and throw out the military rule. They are just trying to get a bigger cult of the pie.
 
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