Scrum Penalty Analysis by Gary Gold
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RuckinGoodStats
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Munro, by my count is only done 10, but is the funniest ref and TV robs us by turning off his mike when the ball is out of play
Scarfman
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Is it Pro Legate?
Either way, there's always a lot of information on this site: http://www.sareferees.co.za
Either way, there's always a lot of information on this site: http://www.sareferees.co.za
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Tahfan
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Has he refereed enough Super Rugby games this season to be the culprit here?
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RuckinGoodStats
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With respect to that website they put the refs who are named for games but then there are some changes and it isn't updated. I got my who did what list of the NZRU. I just rang them up and asked who did what game.
And it isn't Legoate but he has some extremes that make you wonder what his average would look like with a few more games...
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If you think this ref picture is a bit random... things that popped out for me (and no shit I’m not making this up)
1) Bryce Lawrence awarded 17 penalties in a game 4 times this year. This is from his 9 games. Three times he has awarded 11 penalties at the ruck.
2) Dickinson awarded 12 pens at the ruck 3 weeks in a row. weeks 13, 14 & 15.
3) Mark Lawrence from his 9 games has awarded 9 penalties at the ruck three times and awarded 15 penalties at the ruck three times as well.
4) Pollack awarded 14 pens at ruck three times. Did I mention my thoughts on him as a ref?
5) Kaplen from his 11 games, awarded penalties in a game 3 times this year.
6) Joubert awarded 11 penalties at the ruck in a game three times and 20 penalties in a game three times. In two games he awarded 11 pens at the ruck and a total of 20 penalties
7) Jonker 20 penalties in a game three times
8) Williamson awarded 12 penalties at the ruck in a game three times. In fact he is pretty consistent at the number of pens in a game and ruck pens in a game all season.
1) Bryce Lawrence awarded 17 penalties in a game 4 times this year. This is from his 9 games. Three times he has awarded 11 penalties at the ruck.
2) Dickinson awarded 12 pens at the ruck 3 weeks in a row. weeks 13, 14 & 15.
3) Mark Lawrence from his 9 games has awarded 9 penalties at the ruck three times and awarded 15 penalties at the ruck three times as well.
4) Pollack awarded 14 pens at ruck three times. Did I mention my thoughts on him as a ref?
5) Kaplen from his 11 games, awarded penalties in a game 3 times this year.
6) Joubert awarded 11 penalties at the ruck in a game three times and 20 penalties in a game three times. In two games he awarded 11 pens at the ruck and a total of 20 penalties
7) Jonker 20 penalties in a game three times
8) Williamson awarded 12 penalties at the ruck in a game three times. In fact he is pretty consistent at the number of pens in a game and ruck pens in a game all season.
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RuckinGoodStats
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Kaplan has done 11 game so far. Dickson has done the most, 12
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Alex Ross (28)
The coaches would know some of this I would think. As a coach I would be interested in any ideas that would protect the loosehead when he is scrumming in his own half. e.g. how do you keep the ref from going around to the side away from the scrum feed at the very least. When scrumming within goal kicking range the defending hooker would need to pack with his loose head onto the opposing tighthead and away from his direct opponent and away from the ball feed. This is a very defensive mindset for a team. It is saying that a scrum penalty to the attacking team is the worst result - which it basically is. However, conceding contests is not a good habit for any team in the business of winning
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Trevor Allan (34)
Not always, it takes time to understand what each individual person is trying to acheive but once you understand that it's fairly easy to see who is doing what wrong.
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Nicholas Shehadie (39)
Who isn't in the dark then? Front row'ers ref rugby games too, and from what i've seen they perform similarly at the scrum, if anything they are much quicker on the incorrect binding penalties due to their experience. But it is still a lottery when it comes to collapses.
That is why we need some sort of formula, or variable to keep an eye on when reffing. The only answer is intense data/video analysis, no doubt all the top level clubs and refs review every super15 scrum several times, and that has improved standards.
That is why we need some sort of formula, or variable to keep an eye on when reffing. The only answer is intense data/video analysis, no doubt all the top level clubs and refs review every super15 scrum several times, and that has improved standards.
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