Scrum Engagement Management - BLOODY HELL!

[dobduff11]

Agree with no1 tah that the bens need more game time, alexander looked a bit tired towards the end haha

Also did you guys see the look between the bens in the first half after a scrum was so funny

 

[Eyes and Ears]

In the S14 this year, the referees who used the slower clall in general got the better results.

 

[en_force_er]

I think if they called it quickly, let the dust settle there wouldn't need to be resets or penalties.

We need to stop looking for any reason to penalise and start waiting for the result then penalising.

For example the penalising of the marginally early engaging by Robinson didn't particularly benefit the Wallabies and yet Franks/Woodcock were driving before the feed and the advantage was obvious.

Another example of needless penalising was when the Wobs played England earlier this year and England would drive us 5m back and have clean ball available yet when the scrum finally did collapse (after being kept in their for far longer then I've seen in modern international rugby) they would bring it back to the same spot and start again when the ball COULD have just been used.

 

[Scotty]

I have a theory that the long pause is supposed to emulate swimming. Swimmers have to stay still on the blocks else they are disqualified; so let's have a long pause so the packs can't guess at when the engage call comes – and if some of the engage calls come early and some late during the game, all the better to stop the guessing.

Swimmers don't have another 7 guys pushing on their backsides.

 

[Scotty]

I think if they called it quickly, let the dust settle there wouldn't need to be resets or penalties.

We need to stop looking for any reason to penalise and start waiting for the result then penalising.

For example the penalising of the marginally early engaging by Robinson didn't particularly benefit the Wallabies and yet Franks/Woodcock were driving before the feed and the advantage was obvious.

Another example of needless penalising was when the Wobs played England earlier this year and England would drive us 5m back and have clean ball available yet when the scrum finally did collapse (after being kept in their for far longer then I've seen in modern international rugby) they would bring it back to the same spot and start again when the ball COULD have just been used.

It was pretty obvious that the ABs were driving over the mark before the feed, but Rolland forgot about that little law.

Doesn't really matter though as in the end our scrum was shit and the ABs deserved to get the benefit of the calls there. We won't win any major trophies if it doesn't get fixed. Seems a long way from our dominance of SA last year.

 

[DPK]

More of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNfkuEsZB-Q&feature=player_embedded

And none (not less) of this :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRwcWMdhYJ0

 

[Thomond78]

Swimmers don't have another 7 guys pushing on their backsides.

Neither do front rows. Five - and that's making the highly debatable assumption that the number 8 actually does anything.

 

[Slim 293]

Agree with no1 tah that the bens need more game time, alexander looked a bit tired towards the end haha

Also did you guys see the look between the bens in the first half after a scrum was so funny

Alexander didn't appear to be too tired as he was making some great hit ups in the last 10 minutes...

That was one aspect of his play that the Wallabies have been missing this year... another forward who will make metres...

But agree with some of the points already made... his technique isn't quite right and the way he want bent over after a few scrums suggests that he isn't crouching low enough...