School sporting scholarships/recruitment

[Inside Shoulder]

How can you confirm this? what source?

I find it highly unlikely seeing View don't import

leaving aside the logical fallacy in the response - the fact that he is at the school hardly proves that he is an "import" in the sense that term has come to imply in this thread.
Who is to say that he wasn't coming to the school anyway or, given his asserted origin, that the breaking of the drought didn't freeup some cash to pay his fees for year 12?

 

[Inside Shoulder]

Is Will Carr related to Reegan Carr?
I'm afraid a child leaving one school for another does not mean they "import": import in this thread means, to my understanding, that a boy is given a scholarship solely because of his rugby ability.

Either Carr may have qualified for an academic or musical or general scholarship or in Reegans case he may just have been disillusioned with the brand of Catholicism practiced by the pink and blue mob.

Newington struggle to make this good though in relation to the astounding number of Sjru and nswjru u16s who appeared at the school after the selection of those teams and just in time for New's sesquicentenary in 2013.

1 boy is a potential coincidence unless you have the inside story from the family - I accept indirect evidence on that score but others may not.

6 boys is beyond coincidence + I have the inside story from a family.

More info is needed in order to convict view - which I am more than happy to do despite my grandfather having been dux of the school.



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[Joe Mac]

Reegan Carr was Joeys 15As five eight last year and was one of the best halves in the age group. He left Joeys midway through last term and a week later he was given a scholarship to View. So yes the do import.

How do you know he and his family didn't just decide that View was a better school for him? Plenty of Joey's boys and View boys swap between the schools. It happened when I was at View and i'm sure nothing has changed. If you can prove it, great, but don't just jump on here and claim because someone changed schools they are given a scholarship...

 

[Inside Shoulder]

But View don't even want you to play union outside the school.....
http://www.riverview.nsw.edu.au/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=88&Itemid=242

 

[Joe Mac]

Agree with IS. I am going to ask a few people myself but if View were going to give him a scholarship (which they don't give out to anyone for sport) they would not let him play League... Playing for the 1st's entails training 4-6 times a week if you include weights. There is no way he could also play league without missing rugby sessions...

From the website:

Rugby​

Permission may be granted, up to the Under 14 age group only, for boys wishing to play for local clubs in the State Championships. However, boys must firstly honour all commitments to their school team. Where possible, Riverview, with permission from the opposing school, will assist by playing A and B fixtures mid-week of the weekend of the State Championships. In Under 15 and 16 age groups Riverview sees these two years as stepping stones to the 1st and 2nd XV and are vitally important. Those who have been given permission to participate in club fixtures must honour all training and fixtures with their school team.​

 

[I like to watch]

The league competition is just finishing. there is no clash.
The only risk that these Schools have is they may give free schooling to someone who suffers a major injury before their season starts.

 

[Joe Mac]

Because i know Reegan well. He left Joeys as they wouldnt allow him to play league, was known in GPS to be a talented rugby player and was given a scholarship at Riverview and they have allowed him to play league outside of school if he plays union for View.

So if I ask the coach there whether they have given this kid a scholarship, it will be ok to say that's how he is telling his mates that he is being put through the school?

 

[Nusadan]

Is it possible that the school fees are paid for by the club concerned not by the school?

Sydney Swans put a few thru Riverview that way...

 

[Inside Shoulder]

The league competition is just finishing. there is no clash.
The only risk that these Schools have is they may give free schooling to someone who suffers a major injury before their season starts.

which is a risk they run anyway with them training in the various squads they are in to say nothing of training at the school....thats why a scholarships for 1 player doesn't make all that much sense

 

[Man on the hill]

... Aloys have recently brought in that 'year of commencement' next to the players, maybe it is to show they are not importing. I think the reason they did it is to spark a reaction, one that you have provided, so that people do think about home-grown talent and importing...

Big question is - will it catch on? Kinda doubt it. Shame that.

 

[Inside Shoulder]

Hope so - could be somewhat embarrassing

 

[Dragons]

Is Will Carr related to Reegan Carr?
I'm afraid a child leaving one school for another does not mean they "import": import in this thread means, to my understanding, that a boy is given a scholarship solely because of his rugby ability.

Either Carr may have qualified for an academic or musical or general scholarship or in Reegans case he may just have been disillusioned with the brand of Catholicism practiced by the pink and blue mob.

Newington struggle to make this good though in relation to the astounding number of Sjru and nswjru u16s who appeared at the school after the selection of those teams and just in time for New's sesquicentenary in 2013.

1 boy is a potential coincidence unless you have the inside story from the family - I accept indirect evidence on that score but others may not.

6 boys is beyond coincidence + I have the inside story from a family.

More info is needed in order to convict view - which I am more than happy to do despite my grandfather having been dux of the school.



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No will Carr isnt related to reegan.

 

[NC95]

All the class in Brisbane GPS has gone down the drain,
this years worst: BBC, ACGS and BGS

BBC have imported around 5 new players into grade 12 because of their terrible form, i believe this is disgraceful.

ACGS are even worse importing numerous players last year into grade 11 too get the advantage of 2 years of these players and making their second year stronger.

BGS have imported at least 7 players into this years first XV whether they be in grade 11 or 12 truly showing how pathetic they are. Supposed to be Queenslands most prestigious school yet they are willing to offer schooling scholarships to a boy expelled from TSS for doing drugs....hmmmmmmmm

This scholarship issue is only getting worse and some guidelines need to be set
Nudgee set the example for importing and import their players into grade 8, 9 or 10 which is mainly giving these kids a chance and if they are still excellent rugby players in grade 12 so be it you chose wisely but bringing them into year 11 and 12 is disgraceful and it just becomes a race of who can find who first.

Other schools like Gregory Terrace who were always competitive for top three each year experienced last year their worst year in history because of being left as the only schools not importing, have now been forced into having to offer scholarships because they are not able to compete with the other schools anymore.

I don't know well enough about TSS, TGS or IGS and their scholarships too comment about them, but from the rumours they are all importing heavily too

 

[light]

In QLD GPS it's a case of import or come last. Unfortunate but it is a reality. The new rules come in next year which should see things dramatic changes in the long term. For now, we can only really enjoy the rugby because it's at a quality that has never been seen before and probably never will again.

 

[ippylad93]

oh thank god finally some structure what are the new rules light?!?!?!?!

 

[fernando]

Is Will Carr related to Reegan Carr?
I'm afraid a child leaving one school for another does not mean they "import": import in this thread means, to my understanding, that a boy is given a scholarship solely because of his rugby ability.

Either Carr may have qualified for an academic or musical or general scholarship or in Reegans case he may just have been disillusioned with the brand of Catholicism practiced by the pink and blue mob.

Newington struggle to make this good though in relation to the astounding number of Sjru and nswjru u16s who appeared at the school after the selection of those teams and just in time for New's sesquicentenary in 2013.

1 boy is a potential coincidence unless you have the inside story from the family - I accept indirect evidence on that score but others may not.

6 boys is beyond coincidence + I have the inside story from a family.

More info is needed in order to convict view - which I am more than happy to do despite my grandfather having been dux of the school.



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reegan carr and will carr have no relation

 

[Brian Westlake]

In QLD GPS it's a case of import or come last. Unfortunate but it is a reality. The new rules come in next year which should see things dramatic changes in the long term. For now, we can only really enjoy the rugby because it's at a quality that has never been seen before and probably never will again.

But at what price?
Are we talking about education or just the need to sate some old boys lack of inadequacy from their own time at which ever school?
There are an absolute truckload of talented kids out there that will never play top level rugby due to whatever circumstances decree. I agree that there are going to be financial issues always for certain players, but to ship in half of either the NSW or Qld u'16's is less than average. A school tried it at cricket once and it didn't work for them then as the pressure put on the young lads was too much. We are talking about our future generations leaders here, Gentlemen. Perspective.

 

[light]

I know for a fact that the majority of QLD GPS schools don't put sport over learning. Half of their scholarships are usually academic based and therefore results come before rugby or whatever sport they play. There have been numerous cases in the last few years of players being unavailable for 1st XV duties because of academic commitments, particularly with Churchie, Grammar and TSS.

 

[Brian Westlake]

I know for a fact that the majority of QLD GPS schools don't put sport over learning. Half of their scholarships are usually academic based and therefore results come before rugby or whatever sport they play. There have been numerous cases in the last few years of players being unavailable for 1st XV duties because of academic commitments, particularly with Churchie, Grammar and TSS.

Thank you Mr Light for this, but sometimes the big picture of raising fine young men (and women) to run our country gets lost in the mire.
Cheers Sir.

 

[fernando]

i think that all would agree that newington are the biggest importers... they also need it the most