School sporting scholarships/recruitment

[Finland Fella]

The result is that it is not a level playing field.
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Yes and if you want a level playing field then uniformity in enrolment numbers, school fees and boarder percentages need be addressed (which of course is ludicruous and won't happen).
Schools like Newington, Grammar, High and to a lesser extent Scots and Shore bashed away for decades picking up the odd premiership every decade or three (as did Riverview until they suddenly became a super power about 15 years ago - how did that happen again ?) ... I see the somewhat cynical attempts of some to recruit in recent times as a direct reaction to this uneven playing field.

 

[mudskipper]

Bottom Line - All Scholarships, Bursaries, Concessional Entry, Merits Entry, Sibling Preferential Entry etc - any enrolment that isn't based on your chronological date of entry on a waiting list - should be absolutely TRANSPARENT as to who got it and what entitlements or concessions/benefits attach. I think schools SHOULD offer scholarships - for excellence in academics, artistic, cultural and sport. They should be balanced across all endeavours
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Karl the reality is these exclusive colleges under achieve in many areas especially in their academic HSC results... With their resources they should do much better.

Unfortunately these schools no longer make the finest of young men but often produce an arrogant and recalcitrant youth.

Today GPS schools are more representative of a five star resort child care than first rate education... Results are what count not assets, they have lost their way… The scholarships programs hide how poor they results really are, both on and off the field.

 

[Inside Shoulder]

Where we're you guys when I needed protection

 

[Joe Mac]

I do agree with most of what you say, however Jonny Walker told me himself that a wealthy Scone Business man was paying "full freight" for him to go to View next year. He is a great kid who will do well at View. Good luck to him.

View are one of the few schools that don't import so I highly doubt someone is paying for him to go to the school unless it's a relative. Besides, the Walker family are a big View family, there was one two years above me and another the year behind. Are you sure he is not another of the clan?

 

[yourmatesam]

Where we're you guys when I needed protection

This post belongs in the there they're their topic.

 

[random2]

View are one of the few schools that don't import so I highly doubt someone is paying for him to go to the school unless it's a relative. Besides, the Walker family are a big View family, there was one two years above me and another the year behind. Are you sure he is not another of the clan?

your importing comment makes me laugh, but theres another thread for that. And id doubt it if he had been considering other schools

 

[Inside Shoulder]

This post belongs in the there they're their topic.

I agree - it was done on an ipad and i thought it would lack authenticity if I changed it

 

[CTPE]

Where we're you guys when I needed protection

"Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean there aren't people out to get you."

 

[Inside Shoulder]

"Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean there aren't people out to get you."

but who said it?

 

[CTPE]

but who said it?

I could be very, very flippant and say that it was an old stager who had his spot in his Schools First XV taken by an import on a scholarship but I'll settle on Joseph Heller.

 

[Inside Shoulder]

I could be very, very flippant and say that it was an old stager who had his spot in his Schools First XV taken by an import on a scholarship but I'll settle on Joseph Heller.

You'd be wrong on the first count - when I left school only Joeys were under suspicion (and that was for having 21 year olds in the 1s) and I'd beaten them in my first year in the 1sts so that didnt matter (despite my opposite number repeating and having his 3rd year in the 1s)....beat newington that year too and beat kings in my second year...never beat shore...beat scots in my second year. I think we lost to 'view in both. I'm not boasting just dropping clues......

Heller wrote it slightly differently and Henry Kissinger is reputed to have said it as I quote it. I like the Heller idea though.

 

[dermo]

You'd be wrong on the first count - when I left school only Joeys were under suspicion (and that was for having 21 year olds in the 1s) and I'd beaten them in my first year in the 1sts so that didnt matter (despite my opposite number repeating and having his 3rd year in the 1s)....beat newington that year too and beat kings in my second year...never beat shore...beat scots in my second year. I think we lost to 'view in both. I'm not boasting just dropping clues......

Heller wrote it slightly differently and Henry Kissinger is reputed to have said it as I quote it. I like the Heller idea though.

Ahhhh your a Grammer or High old boy, that explains everything..

 

[Inside Shoulder]

everything?
I think you could eliminate one of those 2 pretty safely

 

[lincoln]

You'd be wrong on the first count - when I left school only Joeys were under suspicion (and that was for having 21 year olds in the 1s) and I'd beaten them in my first year in the 1sts so that didnt matter (despite my opposite number repeating and having his 3rd year in the 1s)....beat newington that year too and beat kings in my second year...never beat shore...beat scots in my second year. I think we lost to 'view in both. I'm not boasting just dropping clues......

Heller wrote it slightly differently and Henry Kissinger is reputed to have said it as I quote it. I like the Heller idea though.

If Grammar mid 70's then we should not forget two fellas repeating from the 1974 team into a 75 team that almost pulled it off?

 

[Inside Shoulder]

names?
definitely not on scholarships

 

[Inside Shoulder]

checked with an old team mate - we beat 'view 18-6 in my first year
refereed by Dr Roger Vanderfield
God those were the days

 

[lincoln]

names?
definitely not on scholarships

No names no pack drill - but one went on to play 1sts at Gordon (he told me about the repeats) - my brother-in-law played 1's 75/76 as well. Also you were making the point that there were no scholarships in the 70's only repeats - I guess lots of schools did it.

 

[Inside Shoulder]

1sts @ Gordon from SGS...narrows it considerably - to someone i probably know since i played and coached at gordon.....

I did hear a story of a bloke from shore who repeated from my year into the next year (played aus school boys) and was, so the rumour went, given a job doing the gardening... and there was rumour that the Newington VIII was ful of blokes who left after 1st term.......but they were all beatable

 

[lincoln]

You'd be wrong on the first count - when I left school only Joeys were under suspicion (and that was for having 21 year olds in the 1s) and I'd beaten them in my first year in the 1sts so that didnt matter (despite my opposite number repeating and having his 3rd year in the 1s)....beat newington that year too and beat kings in my second year...never beat shore...beat scots in my second year. I think we lost to 'view in both. I'm not boasting just dropping clues......

Heller wrote it slightly differently and Henry Kissinger is reputed to have said it as I quote it. I like the Heller idea though.

Just working on a prior post that highlighted how adding strong players and taking out the weakest can significantly strengthen a team. Did not work for one school. I think the funniest case of repeating in the 70's gone wrong was Shore in 78 that had 5 guys repeating from the the 77 joint premiers - result was they came 5th. 2nds however won - so worked at a lower level.

 

[lincoln]

1sts @ Gordon from SGS...narrows it considerably - to someone i probably know since i played and coached at gordon.....
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The family has more numerous Gordon 1sts players - should narrow it even more.