Brian Westlake
Arch Winning (36)
I think it will HJ, As if you notice, Randwick have applied for a yellow/blue jersey change for next year to match Scots inc. Oh, those colours already taken in seniors by another corporation.
School sporting scholarships/recruitment
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I think it will HJ, As if you notice, Randwick have applied for a yellow/blue jersey change for next year to match Scots inc. Oh, those colours already taken in seniors by another corporation.
Brian Westlake
Arch Winning (36)
Don't the anomalies get to play until later?
Inside Shoulder
Nathan Sharpe (72)
Anomalies are added in 3rd and 4th term of year 10 or later
10to12
Jimmy Flynn (14)
Not sure I agree QH. Taking Scots out of the equation the ebb and flow of schoolboy rugby you get your good years and your average years. View this year has every expectation to win GPS and next year be in the bottom half of the table. Let the associations have their one round comp and then play top 2 from each assoc GPS CAS ISA in the second half of the season. Boys get good footy and old boys get their romantic notion of a world that doesn't need to change. I'm not excluding Scots but I don't believe their business plan will survive for much longer
Brian Westlake
Arch Winning (36)
Sort of like possibles Vs probables
Brian Westlake
Arch Winning (36)
I would still like to think that the EDUCATION would be the priority 10to.
Sport is the adjunct to the education.
Breaking it down to layman's terms "Would you like Rugby with that?"
I think that some years are just good Rugby years. The same as Cricket years or Rowing years, but it is still about educating the child
GPSrow
Watty Friend (18)
Gents. I will post this on the Australian Schoolboy thread and Scholarship Thread but I thought this might be of interest to any of you on the thread. Since 09/10, Newington had reignited with its Brother School in Topou College in Tonga. Since then, The relationship has blossomed to where over 10 Tongan boys have had the opportunity to learn, engage and experience an Australian education and life at Newington College.
Since the 09/10 relationship has blossomed with Newington, it has seen 2 boys being Vunipola Teaupa-Fifita (14') and Tevita (David) Vea (ON 12'), that have risen through the ranks of Australian Schoolboy Rugby to represent NSW and Australia respectively. Tevita also represented the Australian U20s in the recent World Cup whilst Vunipola has represented the Australian Schoolboy team for both 2013 and 2014.
In noticing this, it shows many things about selections and the uniqueness of these boys and there rise to the Australian Schoolboy jersey.
My discussion point from these two boys is that:
1. Are we looking to Islander boys as the "go-to" men when it comes to schoolboy rugby and not looking into the long term when they may decide to play in there respective country later on in there playing careers.
2. Is it a coincedence that in 2012 and 2014, both Tevita and Vuni are classed as the best in there position, for there age, in Australia? They had only been in Australia for merely 3 years and had risen to the peaks of Australian schoolboy rugby. Did they have close competition?
3. Is it conclusive that Tonga would be a powerhouse of Rugby if it had equal funding to Australian rugby? By the small talent coming from Tonga to Newington and then flourishing in NSW and Australian Schoolboy teams, surely it shows.
4. Should we be encouraging other schools to set up relationships and bonds with other schools in Tonga, Somoa and Fiji and giving boys from these nations an education and also gifted with an opportunity that will hopefully see them flourish academically or on the sports field?
Food for thought gents!
Please do not take anything I have said out of context and turn it into a distasteful argument. I want opinions, ideas and thoughts.
Inb4spellingandgrammar.
Since the 09/10 relationship has blossomed with Newington, it has seen 2 boys being Vunipola Teaupa-Fifita (14') and Tevita (David) Vea (ON 12'), that have risen through the ranks of Australian Schoolboy Rugby to represent NSW and Australia respectively. Tevita also represented the Australian U20s in the recent World Cup whilst Vunipola has represented the Australian Schoolboy team for both 2013 and 2014.
In noticing this, it shows many things about selections and the uniqueness of these boys and there rise to the Australian Schoolboy jersey.
My discussion point from these two boys is that:
1. Are we looking to Islander boys as the "go-to" men when it comes to schoolboy rugby and not looking into the long term when they may decide to play in there respective country later on in there playing careers.
2. Is it a coincedence that in 2012 and 2014, both Tevita and Vuni are classed as the best in there position, for there age, in Australia? They had only been in Australia for merely 3 years and had risen to the peaks of Australian schoolboy rugby. Did they have close competition?
3. Is it conclusive that Tonga would be a powerhouse of Rugby if it had equal funding to Australian rugby? By the small talent coming from Tonga to Newington and then flourishing in NSW and Australian Schoolboy teams, surely it shows.
4. Should we be encouraging other schools to set up relationships and bonds with other schools in Tonga, Somoa and Fiji and giving boys from these nations an education and also gifted with an opportunity that will hopefully see them flourish academically or on the sports field?
Food for thought gents!
Please do not take anything I have said out of context and turn it into a distasteful argument. I want opinions, ideas and thoughts.
Inb4spellingandgrammar.
10to12
Jimmy Flynn (14)
Agree Brian. Sorry but I'm not sure what you're getting at
Brian Westlake
Arch Winning (36)
Just the buying in of teams 10to.
The major point of schools is for education.
Not for footy games and trying to combine different school associations. For that they have the Waratah Shield. Let whomever enter, get the lollies and think how good they are.
But after having two sons that played Rugby at school and higher levels, I am glad that they focussed and are focussing on education. Because you are a bloody long time on the sideline afterwards.
Thats the point I aim for.
10to12
Jimmy Flynn (14)
Yes agree. All a bit strange. Somehow a lot of these schools have lost direction in my view and become big business where education gets lost in the end of year ledger of achievements. Sure parents will wake up one day and question whether their little johnny is benefiting in a year of 3-4 hundred students and having to compete with elite scholarship kids in most extracurricular activities..
formerflanker
Ken Catchpole (46)
Parental expectations are difficult to determine by school leaders. The noisy few often get their way; the big donors have influence; and significant old boys get heard too. In the long run though the market will make its voice heard. At the moment most private schools are on an upward trend so it's hard to quantify if a focus on rugby success is attracting parents.
Johnny come lately
Jimmy Flynn (14)
GPSrow, the proof will be in the pudding when we see whether the likes of these fellas head of to France like Foketi chasing the $$ or hang around to contribute to the code domestically...
formerflanker
Ken Catchpole (46)
Watching the TSC v Shore game was watching men v boys. It was particularly evident when both teams lined up across the field to observe a minute's silence in honour of the lost souls on MH 17; the size differential was quite amazing. TSC had several very large units, especially 4,5,6,16,12 and 14. Shore had schoolboys.
I am assuming that many of TSC's team, perhaps 8 in total, are "anomalies".
I am assuming that many of TSC's team, perhaps 8 in total, are "anomalies".
formerflanker
Ken Catchpole (46)
This is a rumour so I'll channel my inner Greg Growden:
Which GPS school won a sporting championship recently, only to have it stripped from them for using an imported athlete?
Seeking world domination in many sports, this school brought in a boy from Canada to bolster the school's snow sports team. The move worked - the Canadian, scheduled to be with the school for just 10 weeks, helped the school to a win in the Sydney Interschools regional Championships.
When his temporary enrolment at the school was made known to organisers, the school magnaminously returned the championship trophy and the team medals the Canadian had been involved in.
The boy involved was apparently oblivious to the shenanigans surrounding his involvement - he was just there to train and race with the school's Snowsports Academy.
I feel sorry for the boys who won, then had to hand back, a championship trophy and race medals.
Which GPS school won a sporting championship recently, only to have it stripped from them for using an imported athlete?
Seeking world domination in many sports, this school brought in a boy from Canada to bolster the school's snow sports team. The move worked - the Canadian, scheduled to be with the school for just 10 weeks, helped the school to a win in the Sydney Interschools regional Championships.
When his temporary enrolment at the school was made known to organisers, the school magnaminously returned the championship trophy and the team medals the Canadian had been involved in.
The boy involved was apparently oblivious to the shenanigans surrounding his involvement - he was just there to train and race with the school's Snowsports Academy.
I feel sorry for the boys who won, then had to hand back, a championship trophy and race medals.
Jasdec
Ted Fahey (11)
FF (Folau Fainga'a) the angle is probably favouring Shore however it is lucky that R MacCauley wasn't present due to injury. It would appear that Scots have been recruiting from Taronga Zoo as he is a good 3 - 4 inches taller than anyone else in the photo and the scary thing is that he is only in year 11.
6 and 16 are probably the same - M Girdler (yr 11)
I know where you are coming from, however they are all schoolboys.
formerflanker
Ken Catchpole (46)
Good photo - a sombre moment and full marks to all who organised and participated.
You are right - there was no 6 on TSC team. 16 was probably the only jersey that would fit young Girdler.
Quick Hands
David Wilson (68)
World domination apparently has no boundaries.
The first thing I thought when I read the article was; why would a Canadian come to Australia for snow sports? It's a bit like an Aussie surfer going to Canada.
The first thing I thought when I read the article was; why would a Canadian come to Australia for snow sports? It's a bit like an Aussie surfer going to Canada.
formerflanker
Ken Catchpole (46)
Wow. That little piece of information certainly wasn't made public by TSC at the time!
Quick Hands
David Wilson (68)
This little exchange has confirmed suspicions that TSC operatives lurk on this site. When I saw Vindictam's post, I had a look at the snow sports page on the TSC website - it still talked of their winning 12 out of 15 events at the 2014 championships and finishing on 169 points - about 50 points ahead of Redlands and Riveriew who were 2nd and 3rd. An hour and a half later and now a generic page is there giving an overview of the TSC snowsports programme.
Heh. Employees of TSC definitely read this site or are made aware of stuff here.