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S14: Final - North vs South Soweto

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PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
Unbelievable for a Bok supporter and probably the biggest occasion for our green blooded supporters. No doubt the two best teams to fight this out. NTvl vs WP over the years in finals produce beauts for the hard noise rugby supporter and not for the faint hearted.

For my team its all about the head. Its the young, Duvenhage & Grant vs the old FdP and Steyn show. The 9 & 10s will decide this one. Pretty sure about this.

Stormers will play wide and quick opposit of the semi, the Brutes the same old same aerial and physicality game plan.

Its going to be a cracker, long live the biggest SA rivaliry you'd get.
 

Scotty

David Codey (61)
I'm going with the Stormers on this one. Although it depends if they are allowed to get away with the same amount of pushing the onside line (I'm looking at you Burger), as they did against the Tahs. If the ref doesn't crack down on this, then defense > attack in tight matches, so Stormers for the title.
 
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Geeves

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Bulls to win. Home side advantage, their forwards don't step back and their backs are alright.

The Stormers played brilliantly to get there but NSW were their own worst enemy. They were nervous and did not retain possession when it counted or simply had the ball smashed out of their hands. The Bulls won't play like that.
 

Ruggo

Mark Ella (57)
Stormers for me. Bulls will not get the dominance that they have achieved this year in areas that have allowed them to put oppositions to the sword. Scrum to cop a bit, linouts to be heavily contested and breakdown domminance will be hard to come by. Bulls will really have to grind this out if they are going to win.
 

Langthorne

Phil Hardcastle (33)
I'm picking the Bulls, but either way it is a game to look forward to.

The Bulls have a complete game, and have done it before.
 

PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
Bulls vs. Stormers: Zane Kirchner (39*); Gerhard van den Heever (16), Jaco Pretorius (26*), Wynand Olivier (70**), Francois Hougaard (15); Morné Steyn (72**), Fourie du Preez (98**); Pierre Spies (55), Dewald Potgieter (30*), Deon Stegmann (38*), Victor Matfield (108**), Danie Rossouw (101**), Werner Kruger (41*), Gary Botha (72*), Gurthrö Steenkamp (65**). Reserves: Bandise Maku (20), Bees Roux (30), Flip van der Merwe (18), Derick Kuün (55**), Jacques-Louis Potgieter (31), Jaco van der Westhuyzen (53*), Pedrie Wannenburg (112**).

*Super 14 titles

Notes:

• Morné Steyn is the current Super 14 record holder in one season with 243 points;
• also hold the SA record with 737 points;
• Victor Matfield is the SA S14 captain leading his team in the competition, saturday his 60th timer;
• Pedrie Wannenburg will play in his 112th super match - Bulls-record.
 

PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
Super Rugby finals stats per Rugby365
SA teams in Super Rugby Finals
Tue, 25 May 2010 16:38

This week at Orlando Stadium, being referred to by some as Orlando Versfeld, the Bulls play the Stormers in the second all-South African Super Rugby Final - just the second such Final since 1993 when Super 10 started.

These are not the only times South African teams have played in Super rugby Finals. Here is a record of them.

It started in 1986 with the Super Six, which did not included politically excluded South Africans. But then came a lifting of political barriers inside and then outside South Africa and the Super 10 started and it started well for South Africa.

It was a small tournament with two sections of five teams each, playing just four matches followed by a Final. Transvaal was in that first Final and won it. after that Queensland (now the Reds) took over.

Super 10 Finals

1993: Transvaal vs Auckland, 20-17 at Ellis Park on 22 May 1993

Scorers:

For Transvaal:
Tries: Schmidt 2, Pienaar
Con: Van Rensburg
Pen: Van Rensburg

For Auckland:
Tries: Tuigamala, Stensness
Cons: Fox 2
Pen: Fox

Teams

Transvaal: Theo Pienaar, Pieter Hendriks, Bernard Fourie, Japie Mulder, Chris Dirks, Hennie le Roux, Johan Roux, Deon Lötter, Ian MacDonald, François Pienaar, Hannes Strydom, Kobus Wiese, Johan le Roux, Uli Schmidt, Balie Swart

Auckland: Shane Howarth, Terry Wright, Eroni Clarke, Lee Stensness, Va'aiga Tuigamala, Grant Fox, Nu Nu'uali'itia, Michael Jones, Mark Carter, Brendan Jackson, replaced by Zinzan Brooke, Richard Fromont, Robin Brooke, Olo Brown, Sean Fitzpatrick, Craig Dowd

Referee: Freek Burger (South Africa)

1994: Queensland beat Natal 21-10 at King's Park on 14 May 1994

Scorers:

For Queensland:
Tries: Lea, Scott-Young
Con: Lynagh
Pens: Lynagh 2
Drop: Lynagh

For Natal:
Try: Van der Westhuizen
Con: Joubert
Pen: Joubert

Teams:

Natal: André Joubert, Cabous van der Westhuizen, Pieter Müller, replaced by Andy Marinos, Jeremy Thomson, replaced by Shaun Payne, James Small, Henry Honiball, Robert du Preez, Gary Teichmann, Andrew Blakeway, Wahl Bartmann (captain), Steve Atherton, John Slade, Adrian Garvey, John Allan, Guy Kebble

Queensland: Matthew Pini, Damian Smith, Jason Little, replaced by Paul Carozza, Tim Horan, replaced by Anthony Herbert, Barry Lea, Michael Lynagh, Peter Slattery (captain), Sam Scott-Young, Ilie Tabua, replaced by John Eales, David Wilson, Rod McCall, Garrick Morgan, Adrian Skeggs, Michael Foley, Cameron Lillicrap

Referee: Glen Wahlstrom (New Zealand)

1995: Queensland vs Transvaal, 30-16 at Ellis Park, Johannesburg, on 8 April 1995

Scorers:

For Queensland:
Tries: Connors, Little, Johnstone, Smith
Cons: Eales 2
Pen: Eales
Drop: Kahl

For Transvaal:
Try: Roux
Con: De Beer
Drops: De Beer 3

Teams:

Transvaal: Gavin Johnson, Jannie van der Walt, Christiaan Scholtz, replaced by Japie Mulder, Hennie le Roux, Pieter Hendriks, Jannie de Beer, Johan Roux, Rudolf Straeuli (captain), Charles Rossouw, Gerhard Combrinck, Hannes Strydom, Kobus Wiese, Ian Hattingh, Chris Rossouw, Balie Swart

Queensland: Matthew Pini, Damian Smith, Daniel Herbert, Jason Little, Paul Carozza, Paul Kahl, Peter Slattery (captain), replaced by Brett Johnstone, Troy Coker, replaced by Mark Connors, Ilie Tabua, David Wilson, John Eales, Rod McCall, Dan Crowley, replaced by Matt Ryan, Michael Foley, Andrew Blades

Referee: Paddy O'Brien (New Zealand)

The Super 12 was more than a change in numbers. Now there was a body, called SANZAR, made up of the three unions South Africa, New Zealand and Australia and an R for rugby. It organised the Super 12 - five from New Zealand, four from South Africa and three from Australia. The 1996 Super 12 was rugby's first professional competition.

New Zealand quickly went for regional teams and Australia's third province, Canberra, became an interprovincial body. Eventually South Africa also went in for regional teams, but the competition remained dominated by New Zealand teams. There were no pools in this system which meant a great deal of travelling for the teams. This was especially hard on South African teams who set off for a six-week tour of Australia and New Zealand. South African teams seldom made Finals in the early years.

Super 12 Finals:

1996: Auckland vs Natal, 45-21 at Eden Park on 25 May 1996

Natal had a great win over Queensland in Brisbane and flew over to Auckland with high hopes. Jonah Lomu soon brought them bumping down to earth, and in no time Auckland were ahead 20-3. Back came Natal to 20-16 but Auckland then made the game safe.

Scorers:

For Auckland:
Tries: Blowers 2, Lomu, Spencer, Clarke, Riechelmann
Cons: Cashmore 3
Pens: Cashmore 3

For Natal:
Tries: Joubert, Small
Con: Honiball
Pens: Honiball 3

Teams:

Auckland: Adrian Cashmore, Jonah Lomu, Johnny Ngauamo, Eroni Clarke, Joeli Vidiri, Carlos Spencer, Ofisa Tonu'u, Zinzan Brooke (captain), Michael Jones, Andrew Blowers, Charles Reichelmann, Robin Brooke, Craig Dowd, Sean Fitzpatrick, Olo Brown.

Natal: Andre Joubert, James Small, Jeremy Thomson, Dick Muir, Cabous van der Westhuizen, Henry Honiball, Kevin Putt, Gary Teichmann (captain),Wayne Fyvie, Wickus van Heerden, Stephen Atherton, Mark Andrews, Ollie le Roux, John Allan, Adrian Garvey

Referee: Wayne Erickson (Australia)

1997: Auckland Blues vs ACT Brumbies, 23-7 at Eden Park on 31 May 1997

1998: Canterbury Crusaders vs Auckland Blues, 20-13 at Eden Park on 30 May 1998

1999: Canterbury Crusaders vs Otago Highlanders, 24-19 at Carisbrook on 20 May 1999

2000: Crusaders vs Brumbies, 20-19 at Bruce Stadium, Canberra, 27 May 2000

2001: Brumbies vs Sharks, 30-6 at Bruce Stadium, Canberra, 19 May 2001

After missing six kicks at goal in the first half, the Sharks were still level at 6-all at half-time. The Brumbies galloped away with the second half.

Scorers

For Brumbies:
Tries: Roff 2, Giffin
Cons: Walker 3
Pens: Walker 5

For Sharks:
Pens: James 2

Teams:

Brumbies: Andrew Walker, Joe Roff, James Holbeck, Rod Kafer, Graeme Bond, Steve Larkham, George Gregan (captain), Jim Williams, George Smith, Peter Ryan, Justin Harrison, David Giffin, Ben Darwin, Jeremy Paul, Bill Young

Sharks: Ricardo Loubscher, Justin Swart, Trevor Halstead, Deon Kayser, Stefan Terblanche, Butch James, Craig Davidson, AJ Venter, Charl van Rensburg, Warren Britz, Albert van den Berg, Mark Andrews (captain), Ollie le Roux, John Smit, Etienne Fynn.

Referee: Paddy O'Brien (New Zealand)

2002: Crusaders vs Brumbies, 31-13 at Jade Stadium, Christchurch, 25 May 2002

2003: Blues vs Crusaders, 21-17 at Eden Park, Auckland, 24 May 2003

2004: Brumbies vs Crusaders, 47-38 at Canberra Stadium, 22 May 2004

2005: Crusaders vs Waratahs, 35-25 at Jade Stadium, Christchurch, 28 May 2005

Super 14 Finals

2006: Crusaders vs Hurricanes, 19-12 at Jade Stadium, 27 May 2006

This was the first year of Super 14 with an extra team each for Australia and South Africa.

2007: Bulls vs Sharks, 20-19 at ABSA Stadium, Durban, on 19 May 2007

History was made. There were two South African teams in the Final.

The finish to the match was agonising. The Sharks led for 82 minutes but in the 83rd minute, Bryan Habana. shoulders hunched, went swerving, speeding, inside Bob Skinstad and past Beast Mtawarira to dive over for the try that put his team within a point of victory. Derick Hougaard kicked the easy conversion and at last the final whistle sounded.

That winning try took two minutes to make. The Sharks led 18-13 after a try by Albert van den Berg but the Bulls threw everything at them. Victor Matfield of the Bulls started a counterattack deep in Bulls territory.

Scorers:

For Sharks:
Tries: Pietersen, Van den Berg
Pens: Montgomery 3

For Bulls:
Tries: Spies, Habana
Cons: Hougaard 2
Pens: Hougaard 2

Teams:

Sharks: 15 Percy Montgomery, 14 François Steyn, 13 Waylon Murray, 12 Brad Barritt, 11 JP Pietersen, 10 Butch James, 9 Ruan Pienaar, 8 Ryan Kankowski, 7 AJ Venter, 6 Jacques Botes, 5 Johann Muller, 4 Johan Ackermann, 3 BJ Botha, 2 John Smit (captain), 1 Deon Carstens
Replacements: 16 Bismarck du Plessis, 17 Tendai Mtawarira, 18 Albert van den Berg, 19 Warren Britz, 20 Bob Skinstad, 21 Rory Kockott, 22 Adrian Jacobs

Bulls: 15 Johan Roets, 14 Akona Ndungane, 13 JP Nel, 12 Wynand Olivier, 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Derick Hougaard, 9 Fourie du Preez, 8 Pierre Spies, 7 Wikus van Heerden, 6 Pedrie Wannenburg, 5 Victor Matfield (captain), 4 Bakkies Botha, 3 Rayno Gerber, 2 Gary Botha, 1 Gürthro Steenkamp. Replacements: 16 Jaco Engels, 17 Danie Thiart, 18 Danie Rossouw, 19 Derick Kuün, 20 Heinie Adams, 21 Morné Steyn, 22 Jaco van der Westhuyzen

Referee: Steve Walsh (New Zealand)

2008: Crusaders vs Waratahs, 20-12 at AMI Stadium, in Christchurch, on 31 May 2008

2009: Bulls vs Chiefs, 61-17 at Loftus Versfeld, Pretoria on 30 May 2009

Records tumbled on this May afternoon as the Bulls blew the Chiefs away.

Scorers:

For Bulls:
Tries: Du Preez 2, Habana 2, Matfield, Olivier, Spies, Rossouw
Con: Steyn 5, Francis
Pen: Steyn 2
Drop: Steyn

For Chiefs:
Tries: Masaga, Muliaina
Con: Donald 2
Pen: Donald

Teams:

Bulls: 15 Zane Kirchner, 14 Akona Ndungane, 13 Jaco Pretorius, 12 Wynand Olivier, 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Morné Steyn, 9 Fourie du Preez, 8 Pierre Spies, 7 Dewald Potgieter, 6 Deon Stegmann, 5 Victor Matfield (captain), 4 Bakkies Botha, 3 Werner Kruger, 2 Derick Kuün, 1 Gürthro Steenkamp.
Replacements: 16 Chiliboy Ralepelle, 17 Rayno Gerber, 18 Danie Rossouw, 19 Pedrie Wannenburg, 20 Heini Adams, 21 Burton Francis, 22 Marius Delport.

Chiefs: 15 Mils Muliaina (captain), 14 Lelia Masaga, 13 Richard Kahui, 12 Callum Bruce, 11 Dwayne Sweeney, 10 Stephen Donald, 9 Toby Morland, 8 Sione Lauaki, 7 Tanerau Latimer, 6 Liam Messam, 5 Kevin O'Neill, 4 Craig Clarke, 3 James McGougan, 2 Aled de Malmanche, 1 Sona Taumalolo.
Replacements: 16 Hika Elliot, 17 Joe Savage, 18 Toby Lynn, 19 Serge Lilo, 20 David Bason, 21 Mike Delany, 22 Sosene Anesi.

Referee: Jonathan Kaplan
Obvious more SA detailed and not good reading from a Stormers point of view.
 

spectator

Bob Davidson (42)
This should be a cracker of a final, what time is it on TV? Soweto will be buzzing, would love to be at the ground just to experience the atmosphere.
 

PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
spectator said:
This should be a cracker of a final, what time is it on TV? Soweto will be buzzing, would love to be at the ground just to experience the atmosphere.
Kick off 17h00 SA time. Must be early morning for you lot, say two hours earlier then the Stormers vs Tah semi last week.

I am not that bought in this SoWhereTo story. Myself think this is THE biggest clash in history between the two SA historical powerhouses and deserve a holy rugby place like the Bull Ring. Thats where myself would have love to see them play or Newlands but then you know this Brute lot love to join the sjebeens, after the game drinking spiderhead drinks and eatin marog and and porridge. last week was a bloody nightmare to be hobnest and many supporters arrived late for the semi due to the local poofball final in Soccer City which draw 80,000 poofball mad men.

but then youknow I am a old school rugby snob.
 

PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
Stormers team only one change on the bench. JC replace the Argie

Stormers – 15 Joe Pietersen, 14 Gio Aplon, 13 Jaque Fourie, 12 Juan de Jongh, 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Peter Grant, 9 Dewaldt Duvenage, 8 Duane Vermeulen, 7 Francois Louw, 6 Schalk Burger (c), 5 Andries Bekker, 4 Adriaan Fondse, 3 Brok Harris, 2 Tiaan Liebenberg, 1 Wicus Blaauw.
Subs: 16 Deon Fourie, 17 JC Kritzinger, 18 Anton van Zyl, 19 Pieter Louw, 20 Ricky Januarie, 21 Willem de Waal, 22 Tim Whitehead.
 

PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
Not much S14 talking these days, so decided to give a few pictures whats going on to build some gees.

Blue's kid sleeping room:
soweto2.jpg


Soweto Stadium Semi Time:
soweto1.jpg


and what rugby can do to people, some Brute supporters share a cold one with one of the locals in one of the sjabeens around the Stadium
soweto.jpg


Tickets for the final , going over R1,000 on the black market at the moment.
 

#1 Tah

Chilla Wilson (44)
Not much S14 talking these days, so decided to give a few pictures whats going on to build some gees.

Blue's kid sleeping room:
soweto2.jpg


Tickets for the final , going over R1,000 on the black market at the moment.

That look like my brothers' room, but he has every piece of melbourne storm shit.

Tissues. Seriously.
 

Aussie D

Desmond Connor (43)
Well done to the Bulls in winning back-to-back titles. Hopefully next year will see a new team enter the winners circle of S12/4/5 champions.
 

cyclopath

George Smith (75)
Staff member
I guess Blue and Rusty will come back to earth and G&GR once the hangovers wear off...
Well done Bloue Bulle.
 

Sully

Tim Horan (67)
Staff member
Well done Bulls. Not a bad game to watch at all! Only down side for me were the horns everyone had. I wish the TV team had turned down the ground effect microphones a bit!
 
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