RWC QF 4 AUS v SCO (Twickenham) 19th Oct 0200 AEDT
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I was being diplomatic.
mudskipper
Colin Windon (37)
Scotlands Captain Laidlaw didnt complain about this refereeing oversight... the Scots were lucky into thr QUarter final anyway...
KOB1987
John Eales (66)
I felt a bit hollow after the game but after reading all the dummy spits, the statement by WR (World Rugby), being reminded of the 2 players who pleaded guilty being found not guilty, and now we've got this twit comparing it to some mass murder 330 years ago.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/ru...or-more-than-300-years-says-Michael-Gove.html
So fuck em I say. I'm now fully pumped.
The message is that when you defeat a home nation then do so comprehensively. Duly noted by all I hope!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/ru...or-more-than-300-years-says-Michael-Gove.html
So fuck em I say. I'm now fully pumped.
The message is that when you defeat a home nation then do so comprehensively. Duly noted by all I hope!
EatSleepDrinkRuck
Larry Dwyer (12)
Haha, don't know about that - I will be at a Casino screaming at a big screen about the origin of the referees' Mother for most of the next two games but afterwards when I have sobered up I will only put nice things in writing.
Is Sumo Stevenson the best voice in rugby? He's smart, funny, articulate and always on point.
Everything he does from commentary, to analysis, to humour pieces is superb.
Everything he does from commentary, to analysis, to humour pieces is superb.
Inside Shoulder
Nathan Sharpe (72)
The_Brown_Hornet
John Eales (66)
Correct on all counts, Sumo. Count me as a fan too. I first started to appreciate his work while over in NZ for RWC2011 and have liked him ever since. He makes a lot of sense here.
Hugh Jarse
Rocky Elsom (76)
mudskipper
Colin Windon (37)
For those who missed video footage see the double standards of Laidlow... Where was the TMO against Samoa...
Inside Shoulder
Nathan Sharpe (72)
Why isn't Seymour's try a deliberate knock forward?
TahDan
Cyril Towers (30)
To be fair, the English fessed up quite honestly this time
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Bardon
Peter Fenwicke (45)
Don't agree with World Rugby's stance on this. If they want to have an official public review of Ref performances at test level. Fair enough do what just about every other sport would do. Wait for things to calm down and announce it a few months after the RWC and apply it to future performances.
Refs get stick from all quarters and the majority of G&GR posters aren't whiter than white on the issue. They get far too much stick as it is and to have it almost officially endorsed by World Rugby is just sickening.
As to the Scots griping about the decision. Some of them have clearly gone overboard, especially those who have attacked Joubert's ingrity or called for him to be sacked, never ref again etc. Those in the media who are former test players doing this should remember that if they were held to the same standards they would have earned a hell of a lot less caps than they did.
As to the Scots fans. They're fan and fans moan when a decision goes against them that costs them the game. I wish they didn't, I firmly subscribe to the attitude that when the game's over, congratulate the winner and look at how you can improve in the future. The best way is to play so well next time that there's no way the result rests on one decision from the ref or more likely one mistake from your team.
With regard to calling the Scotish fans out. I'd say go for it with the over zealous guys. But as to the genuine Scotish fans I'd say let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Having been a member here for four years and seeing the reaction to some calls that have negatively impacted Aus or Aus franchises there aren't too many who should be hurling rocks right about now.
I genuinely hope that we don't see another situation like it in the Semi Finals and Final and that we're back to talking about the quality of the rugby come the weekend.
In Joubert's case I hope this isn't what he's remember for after this RWC, the way Rolland was last RWC. The guy's a good referee. His style may not suit everyone's vision for the game. But he makes less mistakes than most and he's consistent.
Refs get stick from all quarters and the majority of G&GR posters aren't whiter than white on the issue. They get far too much stick as it is and to have it almost officially endorsed by World Rugby is just sickening.
As to the Scots griping about the decision. Some of them have clearly gone overboard, especially those who have attacked Joubert's ingrity or called for him to be sacked, never ref again etc. Those in the media who are former test players doing this should remember that if they were held to the same standards they would have earned a hell of a lot less caps than they did.
As to the Scots fans. They're fan and fans moan when a decision goes against them that costs them the game. I wish they didn't, I firmly subscribe to the attitude that when the game's over, congratulate the winner and look at how you can improve in the future. The best way is to play so well next time that there's no way the result rests on one decision from the ref or more likely one mistake from your team.
With regard to calling the Scotish fans out. I'd say go for it with the over zealous guys. But as to the genuine Scotish fans I'd say let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Having been a member here for four years and seeing the reaction to some calls that have negatively impacted Aus or Aus franchises there aren't too many who should be hurling rocks right about now.
I genuinely hope that we don't see another situation like it in the Semi Finals and Final and that we're back to talking about the quality of the rugby come the weekend.
In Joubert's case I hope this isn't what he's remember for after this RWC, the way Rolland was last RWC. The guy's a good referee. His style may not suit everyone's vision for the game. But he makes less mistakes than most and he's consistent.
The_Brown_Hornet
John Eales (66)
Well said, as always, Bardon.
Strewthcobber
Simon Poidevin (60)
That's a very interesting question and a good example of the issues that would be raised if there was a "captain's call" appeal process for decisions.
If the Samoan captain appealed that - would the TMO be able to ignore the laws of the game and follow the conventions that refs use around knocking up or knocking down, or would he have to strictly follow the laws as set out - which specifically say you can't "knock" it forward
I think it isn't an intentional knock on because the ball doesn't touch the ground. You have to read the laws together.
DEFINITION: KNOCK-ON
A knock-on occurs when a player loses possession of the ball and it goes forward, or when a player hits the ball forward with the hand or arm, or when the ball hits the hand or arm and goes forward, and the ball touches the ground or another player before the original player can catch it.
‘Forward’ means towards the opposing team’s dead ball line.
12.1 The outcome of a knock-on or throw forward
(f)
Intentional knock or throw forward. A player must not intentionally knock the ball forward with hand or arm, nor throw forward.
DEFINITION: KNOCK-ON
A knock-on occurs when a player loses possession of the ball and it goes forward, or when a player hits the ball forward with the hand or arm, or when the ball hits the hand or arm and goes forward, and the ball touches the ground or another player before the original player can catch it.
‘Forward’ means towards the opposing team’s dead ball line.
12.1 The outcome of a knock-on or throw forward
(f)
Intentional knock or throw forward. A player must not intentionally knock the ball forward with hand or arm, nor throw forward.
When you read all three in concert (f) doesn't apply because no knock on occurred.
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