RWC QF 4 AUS v SCO (Twickenham) 19th Oct 0200 AEDT

[swingpass]

i may be wrong but I always thought the first law of rugby or the preamble states,
"the referee is the sole arbiter of fact", ergo no matter what we, the scots or world rugby think, he was right.

 

[GTPIH]

On the plus side the next time we play Scotland will be a promoters dream. if they got Joubert to ref it would be a promoters wet dream.

 

[Joe Blow]

Tuilagi's ban was fine. He has a history of raising the knee.

 

[louie]

This is all beat up to deflect our attention away from the fact that for the first time a Northern hemisphere hasn't made semis.

 

[mudskipper]

This is all beat up to deflect our attention away from the fact that for the first time a Northern hemisphere hasn't made semis.

Indeed now we just need to cut it back down to Tasman Sea teams...

 

[pjm]

Indeed now we just need to cut it back down to Tasman Sea teams.

If it gets to that I wonder if the kiwi's will have the balls to put the Bledisloe on the line.

 

[mudskipper]

If it gets to that I wonder if the kiwi's will have the balls to put the Bledisloe on the line.

Well I think thats a given... winner takes all RWC final

 

[Bullrush]

Yes, I do.

http://imgur.com/uvCiYhN

Picture proves my point. Very bad tackle on a great ball runner.

Jonah would have had multiple bans if this pic shows anything illegal.

 

[pjm]

Picture proves my point. Very bad tackle on a great ball runner.

Jonah would have had multiple bans if this pic shows anything illegal.

Why do you think it isn't illegal?

 

[Bullrush]

Because it's very difficult, dare I say impossible, to run hard and fast without bending or lifting your knees.

 

[Braveheart81]

Because it's very difficult, dare I say impossible, to run hard and fast without bending or lifting your knees.

Do you think it is reasonable for a ball carrier to lift their knee substantially higher than they do in their normal run on the step immediately before impact with the defender?

 

[pjm]

Because it's very difficult, dare I say impossible, to run hard and fast without bending or lifting your knees.

This is not a running stride.

http://imgur.com/a/0IJ9U

 

[fatprop]

Do you think it is reasonable for a ball carrier to lift their knee substantially higher than they do in their normal run on the step immediately before impact with the defender?

Yep, and use the arm or should to break tackle as well

 

[Bullrush]

Do you think it is reasonable for a ball carrier to lift their knee substantially higher than they do in their normal run on the step immediately before impact with the defender?

1. Focusing on the Tuilagi knee takes away from the thrust of my original post which was, when was the last time you saw something like this come out from World Rugby when a Tier 2 team gets screwed by a ref in a RWC game.

2. There was no substantial lifting of the knee at all.

 

[Pfitzy]

TBH, when I look at the Tuilagi incident, he starts running, and his left knee never gets as high as his right. Nor should it at the point where he's trying to pick up pace. If the tackler has the responsibility to bring the player to deck safely, then the tackled player also has the responsibility to keep themselves from striking the tackler.

That said, a LOT of forearm fends go unpunished in the game at the moment.

 

[pjm]

2. There was no substantial lifting of the knee at all.

Stills prove otherwise.

 

[Cardiffblue]

Phipps has admitted to having a go at the loose ball which is subsequently knocked forward by the scot, deflects off Phipps chest, and is then picked up by another scot who, as far as CJ is concerned, is about 10m offside.

If Phipps looks a bit sheepish it's probably because like everyone else he is unsure whether the fact that the ball has touched him has negated the offside. Rule 11.3c that is referred to appears to have been written to allow for players from one side being put back on side after a return kick is fumbled by the other side, not from a knock on infringement. So it's not surprising there was a bit confusion about its application in this instance.

In any case, whatever way you look at it it was advantage Australia. I also would have backed us to get the required 3 points minimum from the ensuing scrum and the at least 2 minutes of play that followed.

The records show that Australia won, and the team out of the two which had showed the greatest superiority throughout the entire tournament so far advances to the semis.

End of story.

Yup. It's history now. And to be honest the problem for the Scots was that their nerve was breaking. It was that was one seriously shit throw in.

 

[Cardiffblue]

And imo Genia was looking very sharp in this game. His service from the scrum and ruck was crisp, accurate and fast. Apart from a couple of ineffectual box kicks, his all round game was getting near to his best imo. Great read to put Mitchell in for his second try.

I totally agree. And if its close you need experience to keep your nerve. I'd only bring on Phipps to protect Genia for the final

 

[Bullrush]

This is not a running stride.

http://imgur.com/a/0IJ9U

He's not running a race. That's a running stride for anyone going into contact. Like all great ball carriers and tackle busters.

 

[Pfitzy]

He was good at the end there and played with pace.

The benefit of bringing him on is having the fresh legs. If Genia can go at the same pace for the entire 80 he isn't going hard enough.

Good defender, too.