RWC: Pool C - Wallabies v Georgia, SdF Sunday 10th September 2am

[fatprop]

I think that cooper is a greater chance of going up than foley. I think that foley blew his position last year.
-Footyhead

Cooper took his toys and went home, Foley turned up for the Aus A game as requested

 

[Dctarget]

Hooper apparently has a niggle but should be right to play... maybe doesn't play 80 against Georgia.

not great with him and Leota in doubt. Who's 3rd choice 6? Gleeson? That's a rough lineout. Almost play Frost there. Kemeny would probably get the nod then for his lineout work.

 

[Footy head]

not great with him and Leota in doubt. Who's 3rd choice 6? Gleeson? That's a rough lineout. Almost play Frost there. Kemeny would probably get the nod then for his lineout work.

Gleeson is a very talented player and the wallabies should use him better. One of the best players for the waratahs this year i think.
-Footyhead

 

[KevinO]

Georgia did really well against Scotland for the first half. Were they leading? Then got blown away in the 2nd half. Gotta keep the ball moving and not let them play silly buggers with injuries and for mother of god give away no cards.

It's hard to tell, but it didn't look like a full strength Georgian team when comparing to other squads used over the last 12 months.

I think Georgia is a bigger danger for the Wallabies then Fiji, Wallabies will always play better when there pack is on par or better then their opposition. In this case the Georgian pack will be quite capable of bullying the Wallabies in the scrum. Gogichashvili (Racing) and Gigashvili (Toulon) are both quality props who would both make the Wallabies squad if they were Aussies.

 

[fatprop]

It's hard to tell, but it didn't look like a full strength Georgian team when comparing to other squads used over the last 12 months.

I think Georgia is a bigger danger for the Wallabies then Fiji, Wallabies will always play better when there pack is on par or better then their opposition. In this case the Georgian pack will be quite capable of bullying the Wallabies in the scrum. Gogichashvili (Racing) and Gigashvili (Toulon) are both quality props who would both make the Wallabies squad if they were Aussies.

Yeah, we aren't in position to think Georgia (or any side at the RWC) aren't a threat

 

[KevinO]

Yeah, we aren't in position to think Georgia (or any side at the RWC) aren't a threat

Portgual are making up the numbers in that group, last game for the Wallabies and I'd assume at that stage it will be either rest players or we need to put 100 on these guys to get out of the group.

 

[fatprop]

Portgual are making up the numbers in that group, last game for the Wallabies and I'd assume at that stage it will be either rest players or we need to put 100 on these guys to get out of the group.

I think we need to take every opportunity win and win well

 

[KevinO]

Also thinking about Georgia, if they did manage to make the quarters in this group. It would go a long way for arguing they need to be included in the 6N when the Italians have never qualified. They have already shown they can match it with the 6N teams.

Consider since the last world cup they have beaten Italy and Wales, drew with Fiji and lost to Samoa by a point.

 

[Joe Blow]

We have to get past Georgia, Wales and Fiji. Not such a straightforward path to the knockouts as many would suggest.

 

[dru]

We have to get past Georgia, Wales and Fiji. Not such a straightforward path to the knockouts as many would suggest.

It is as straight forward as we had any right to ask for. It doesn't get any easier than this.

 

[Dctarget]

It is as straight forward as we had any right to ask for. It doesn't get any easier than this.

I'd argue that Argentina/England have it easier. But splitting hairs, I'd rather face Samoa, Chile and Japan than Georgia, Fiji and Portugal.

 

[rugbyAU]

I'd argue that Argentina/England have it easier. But splitting hairs, I'd rather face Samoa, Chile and Japan than Georgia, Fiji and Portugal.

Agree, Japan have been shocking lately and back to their old selves, Portugal are slightly better than Chile & Georgia would probably beat Samoa

 

[dru]

I'd argue that Argentina/England have it easier. But splitting hairs, I'd rather face Samoa, Chile and Japan than Georgia, Fiji and Portugal.

Sure, but god help me how lucky do we expect to be?

 

[Wilson]

I'd argue that Argentina/England have it easier. But splitting hairs, I'd rather face Samoa, Chile and Japan than Georgia, Fiji and Portugal.

I mostly agree, but I think I'd rather be up against Wales than either Argentina or England.

 

[KOB1987]

I was curious to see who Georgia played in their lead up matches. When I'm doing the form for the horses the first thing I do is look at their most recent starts and rule a line through anything that is stepping up in class sharply from their recent runs - doesn't always work but around 3/4 of winners are proven to be competitive at the class they are racing in. The analogy here is that Australia has been competing in Group 1s while Georgia have been running around at provincial meetings. Wallabies by 30+.

 

[KOB1987]

One thing that astounded me while I was investigating this was the coaching setups:

The current coaching staff of the Georgian national team:[11]

Name Nationality Role
Vasil Abashidze GEO Manager
Lekso Iordanishvili GEO Manager
Levan Maisashvili GEO Head coach
Lado Kilasonia GEO Assistant coach
Ilia Maisuradze GEO Assistant coach
Cory Brown NZL Attack coach
Joe Worsley ENG Defence coach
Paul Tito NZL Forward's coach
Ben Pollard ENG Strength & conditioning coach
Irakli Chkonia GEO Strength & conditioning coach
Davit Nemsadze GEO Strength & conditioning coach
Dr. Nutsa Shamatava GEO Team doctor
Abesalom Abramishvili GEO Physiotherapist
Edward Barry ENG Physiotherapist
William Lavis ENG Rehabilitation specialist
Nika Pinaishvili GEO GPS-analyst
Davit Ramishvili GEO Video-analyst

Current Wallabies Coaching set-up:

Position Name
Head coach Australia Eddie Jones
Attack coach Australia Jason Ryles
Defence coach Australia Brett Hodgson
Forwards co-ordinator England Neal Hatley
Line-out coach Australia Dan Palmer
Maul consultant France Pierre-Henry Broncan
Kicking consultant Australia Berrick Barnes

 

[qwerty51]

Isn't that the same number or thereabouts?

You haven't included the Wallabies manager(s), S&C(s), doctor(s), physios(s), video analyst(s)...

In fact it looks like they have 6 rugby coaches to our 7...

 

[Wilson]

One thing that astounded me while I was investigating this was the coaching setups:

The current coaching staff of the Georgian national team:[11]

Name Nationality Role
Vasil Abashidze GEO Manager
Lekso Iordanishvili GEO Manager
Levan Maisashvili GEO Head coach
Lado Kilasonia GEO Assistant coach
Ilia Maisuradze GEO Assistant coach
Cory Brown NZL Attack coach
Joe Worsley ENG Defence coach
Paul Tito NZL Forward's coach
Ben Pollard ENG Strength & conditioning coach
Irakli Chkonia GEO Strength & conditioning coach
Davit Nemsadze GEO Strength & conditioning coach
DR (Dave Rennie). Nutsa Shamatava GEO Team doctor
Abesalom Abramishvili GEO Physiotherapist
Edward Barry ENG Physiotherapist
William Lavis ENG Rehabilitation specialist
Nika Pinaishvili GEO GPS-analyst
Davit Ramishvili GEO Video-analyst

Current Wallabies Coaching set-up:

Position Name
Head coach Australia Eddie Jones
Attack coach Australia Jason Ryles
Defence coach Australia Brett Hodgson
Forwards co-ordinator England Neal Hatley
Line-out coach Australia Dan Palmer
Maul consultant France Pierre-Henry Broncan
Kicking consultant Australia Berrick Barnes

Not sure what your point is but you're missing half the wallabies staff:

David Rath - AUS Learning Coordinator
John Clarke - ENG Strength and Conditioning
Nigel Ashley-Jones - AUS assistant Strength and Conditioning
John Pryor - AUS Speed Consultant
Warrick Harrington - AUS Sports Scientist

Those are the ones listed here, but there will be further support staff in some of the same roles as the Georgians

Eddie Jones confirms 2023 Wallabies coaching staff

wallabies.rugby

 

[KOB1987]

The point was there are a lot more of them than ours.

But fair enough, I'm half way through a bottle of red and didn't cross check the details. My bad. The coaching setup thing was just an adjunct to my original post though.

 

[KOB1987]

I also had a good look at their squad. The obvious thing was that a lot of their forwards are playing in top European comps but most of their backs play in the Georgia team in the European Cup Eastern Conference or whatever it is. It's been mentioned by some on here that their strength is in the forwards, that much is clear. We should match them in the forwards and I don't think the backline thing would have gone unnoticed to Eddie, being the strategist he is, so I reckon we will err on a strike backline - maybe Koroibete and Vunivalu both start, Kerevi at 12, Perese at 13, Petaia at 15.