RWC Pool C - Australia v Wales - 5AM 25 Sep AEST

[LeCheese]

That is a very good analysis of Gorden there.

Gordan has not been good at putting up contestable kicks with the rebels in and his kicking for touch isn't the best either.

Hedged your bets and still off the mark

 

[Beer on the hill]

I’d like to see us have runners in that wide channel. Three quick passes to 13 and then have our big lads (Arnold and Frost) really attack the edges. Pass, pass, pass, CRASH. A different style. This would also allow us to put contestable kicks up and have our tall timber (as well as Marky Mark (Nawaqanitawase)) chasing and contesting.

 

[Joe Blow]

I think we are going to try and smash them up front but go wide quickly when possible. Less kicking in this one……..as it should have been in the last one but probably not for this one. Confusing? Yes, very.

 

[Wallaby Man]

Give me our tight 5 over theirs every day and twice on Sunday

I’d take their hooker (not very good either) over our extremely underwhelming choices. Their TH is a premiership, 6N and Heineken Cup winner, against a LH doing an admirable job at TH. Adam Beard is a better player than both Arnold and Frost. Rowlands is a solid Lock as well. Honestly only Bell is a better option than the other front 5 guys.

Our choices certainly aren’t going to be winning scrum penalties. They aren’t going to be bashing them with the ball. Etc. I just don’t see where the advantage is.

We have to dominate an area of the game to win, I’m just not seeing this front 5 being able to dominate at anything to give us an advantage. Hopefully I’m wrong.

 

[NoName]

Good to have Tate & Pone back:

- I like Leota at 6 and Hooper at 7, would have Gleeson on the bench for more versatility

- Would also prefer Fines over White

- Makes sense not to throw Pone back straight away

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Nic White on the bench seems a weird move tbh. I can't think of a single end game scenario where kicking the ball to the opposition so that they score points will benefit us.

I've been wrong before though.

 

[upthereds#!]

No, both are injured and will not play this weekend.

 

[stillmissit]

I thought McReight was playing very well!???????

But seriously, put Gleeson in.

You have tried your best Qwerty but Jones disagrees. I for one, want to see him start to see if there is anything to him I have missed.

 

[Joe Blow]

You have tried your best Qwerty but Jones disagrees. I for one, want to see him start to see if there is anything to him I have missed.

I am sure we will see it against Portugal. He had that big hit against Wales last year but did not do much in the game after that. Valetini is much busier and effective. Hooper too and is a lineout option.
The lineout this week should be excellent.

 

[Tomthumb]

I’d take their hooker (not very good either) over our extremely underwhelming choices. Their TH is a premiership, 6N and Heineken Cup winner, against a LH doing an admirable job at TH. Adam Beard is a better player than both Arnold and Frost. Rowlands is a solid Lock as well. Honestly only Bell is a better option than the other front 5 guys.

Our choices certainly aren’t going to be winning scrum penalties. They aren’t going to be bashing them with the ball. Etc. I just don’t see where the advantage is.

We have to dominate an area of the game to win, I’m just not seeing this front 5 being able to dominate at anything to give us an advantage. Hopefully I’m wrong.

Porecki has really grown on me this season, your really under rating himI feel

Thomas Francis has always looked average at best to me, especially at scrum time. Adam Beard is really out of form and in no way is better than Frost

Adding Leota gives a big pack, and out lineout should be able to cause them issues with Frost, Hooper and Arnold

This is the same Welsh team that the Boks just put 50 on, that England beat with 13 men, that both Georgia beat less than a year ago. If we can’t beat these losers than I worry about our future

 

[Shiggins]

They’re not wrong though. I mean they’re shit too it’s no guarantee but we’re undeniably shit with how we’re coached and not putting our best side out there.

Yeh but if Aus play to their potential they win by a fair bit. Good chance they don't tho

 

[Shiggins]

Who's waking up early for it over east ?
In WA it's on at 215.

 

[HogansHeros]

Who's waking up early for it over east ?
In WA it's on at 215.

5am, barely an early wake

 

[Members Section]

I will be, already told the boss I'm going to be late into the office on monday

 

[stillmissit]

I'd take our back line too.

BUT. Put it together and let's see what turns up. (Talk about losing faith in the Wallabies.)

Dru, If our forwards turn up it's all over for the Welsh and if not - it's a total unknown

 

[wamberal99]

Dru, If our forwards turn up it's all over for the Welsh and if not - it's a total unknown

I reckon our boys will be fired up. They'd better be, or else they can all piss off.

 

[noscrumnolife]

Ronan O'Gara recently made a statement to the effect of games being won from 1-10. Well, as a collective, I'm confident we're better at 1-9. But the most significant gap of any position is at 10. The question is whether we can exercise the dominance we need to stop that coming into it. I think that's 50-50 likelihood.

 

[molman]

Porecki has really grown on me this season, your really under rating himI feel

Thomas Francis has always looked average at best to me, especially at scrum time. Adam Beard is really out of form and in no way is better than Frost

Adding Leota gives a big pack, and out lineout should be able to cause them issues with Frost, Hooper and Arnold

This is the same Welsh team that the Boks just put 50 on, that England beat with 13 men, that both Georgia beat less than a year ago. If we can’t beat these losers than I worry about our future

I'm still not convinced on Leota, size aside. He's not as sharp or consistent technically as I'd like.

I agree re: Porecki. He's no Malcom Marx or Dan Sheehan, but he's been rather consistent for the Wallabies and has been doing reasonably well with all the off the ball work.

I agree with your final point. Wales are beatable. If we can't beat them we're not going to win a quarters anyway.

 

[Brumby Runner]

I'm not sold on Perecki. He's there primarily because he is more consistent with his throwing at the lineout. In general play, he does not win collisions, often misses tackles and is nearing the status of penalty magnet. I reckon, in general play, Faessler has it over him, but Porecki's lineout work will continue to see him selected until a more rounded hooker comes through the ranks.

 

[rugbyAU]

I'm not sold on Perecki. He's there primarily because he is more consistent with his throwing at the lineout. In general play, he does not win collisions, often misses tackles and is nearing the status of penalty magnet. I reckon, in general play, Faessler has it over him, but Porecki's lineout work will continue to see him selected until a more rounded hooker comes through the ranks.

Agreed, BPA coming back home soon at least

 

[dru]

I'm not sold on Perecki. He's there primarily because he is more consistent with his throwing at the lineout. In general play, he does not win collisions, often misses tackles and is nearing the status of penalty magnet. I reckon, in general play, Faessler has it over him, but Porecki's lineout work will continue to see him selected until a more rounded hooker comes through the ranks.

Well, I agree with you on Porecki's lineout work. And I guess on surprise at him gaining the captaincy. His general gameplay isn't as solid as Faessler but I don't think the differential is the quantum you suggest. Porecki is certainly stronger now.