RWC Pool C - Australia v Wales - 5AM 25 Sep AEST

[dusk]

Donaldson to 10 is the right move. This isn't Carters fault but poor managing from Eddie. There should never have been 1 specialist 10 but since there is we have to work around it. Kellaway is one of our only genuine attacking threats. Donaldson (who hasn't put a foot wrong so far) doesn't have that spark at the back but looks composed which could transfer well to fly-half. Predicting the Wallabies to pull together for this one.

 

[Proud Pig]

Yeah I think he ended up so deep against Fiji had more to do with them getting dominated in the collisions

Having professional box kicker Nic White at 9 wasn't helping matters either

I think it is the game plan. Gordon played deep against Georgia as well particularly once Tate went off and our forwards controlled that game.

 

[Linerunner2023]

Kellaway, Nawaqanitawase and Koroibete, yes. Petaia at 13, no. Jordan is more likely to kick the ball away any time he touches it within striking distance of the tryline. Haven't really seen him break the line or set up others in the 13 spot and his defence there is very questionable. Put him on a wing and we'll see big improvement in his play.

I can only see petaia kicking it with jones instructions as he does not usually kick often! Jones had Kerevi kicking it in the rugby champs which I have not seen before either! But must be under him instructions same as white box kicking in the opposition half
He has a 2nd 10 at 12 for England with Farrell so feels like he is trying this again
Or the whole silly 3 phase and must kick

 

[stillmissit]

Dont think the wording applies considering our bench players are playing about 10 minutes on average.

That' Eddie 2003. Thought he might have moved on!

 

[stillmissit]

Is Eddies plan to run a deep 10?

I had thought he wanted a flat 10 involved in the direction of the game behind forwards going forward. They ended up deep, not by plan but by failure to execute the plan, I suspect. That fail might be either because ta) he plan isn't good enough or b) they didn't follow it; but I don't think the intention is to be deep. Nor do I think the idea is for the half to play 9.5.

It just wasn't coming together.

I think Gordon was stuck, he could run a flat line and they were getting demolished by the Fiji rush D (watch for that in Welsh game) and the forwards were not getting over the Ad line and therefore killing any opportunity to attack flat. Gordon could have chipped over them and he did a couple of times from memory but there was little support from backs or breakaways.
Like most things in rugby if your forwards are dominating and your backs are just average OK if it's the other way round you're stuffed and that is what we are.
Jones STILL appears to be on the side of staying out of the breakdown. I return to my original idea about him, he's an arrogant prat who was lucky to find totally compliant players in Japan and his early years in England. He fucked Aus in the early 2000's and he appears to be back to do the same again.

 

[Tomthumb]

In general I think Carter Gordon has been over coached. He’s a instinctive player that right now seems confused every time he gets the ball. Less is more when it comes to guys like him, just let him play

 

[Sword of Justice]

In general I think Carter Gordon has been over coached. He’s a instinctive player that right now seems confused every time he gets the ball. Less is more when it comes to guys like him, just let him play

I think paired with White, who's is not a bad player, is also harming him in this regard. There is just so much more rigidly structured thinking as opposed to fluidity.

McDermott is also not a perfect player by any means and has a propensity to throw in a clanger every once and again but the net effect of his pace to and from the ruck, running potential and riskier decision making suits Gordon more. It generally gets us over the gain line more often and creates more indecision in the opposition defence.

On the other hand White and Donaldson are best suited to executing a plan that requires more consistent execution of skills and ascendancy at the ruck and set piece, which we don't always have.

 

[rugbyAU]

Good to have Tate & Pone back:

- I like Leota at 6 and Hooper at 7, would have Gleeson on the bench for more versatility

- Would also prefer Fines over White

- Makes sense not to throw Pone back straight away

 

[Joe Blow]

Kellaway, Nawaqanitawase and Koroibete, yes. Petaia at 13, no. Jordan is more likely to kick the ball away any time he touches it within striking distance of the tryline. Haven't really seen him break the line or set up others in the 13 spot and his defence there is very questionable. Put him on a wing and we'll see big improvement in his play.

It seems to be a common failing. Petaia, White, Kerevi and even Koreibete have done it lately. Just crazy. They must be being told to kick kick kick at training and it’s on the brain. Petaia is probably the best one on one. Have a go mate!

 

[Highlander35]

I don't mind that.

 

[Joe Blow]

I think Gordon was stuck, he could run a flat line and they were getting demolished by the Fiji rush D (watch for that in Welsh game) and the forwards were not getting over the Ad line and therefore killing any opportunity to attack flat. Gordon could have chipped over them and he did a couple of times from memory but there was little support from backs or breakaways.
Like most things in rugby if your forwards are dominating and your backs are just average OK if it's the other way round you're stuffed and that is what we are.
Jones STILL appears to be on the side of staying out of the breakdown. I return to my original idea about him, he's an arrogant prat who was lucky to find totally compliant players in Japan and his early years in England. He fucked Aus in the early 2000's and he appears to be back to do the same again.

Sad but true. Although I think the idea with this 15 is to start Hooper at 7 and add the extra weight of Leota to assert dominance up front initially. McReight will finish off like a terrier. Probably not a bad plan.

 

[Joe Blow]

Interesting that Slipper remains on the TH side despite Pone coming back.

 

[Tomikin]

Honest sessions ....great ain't you sick of hearing this..first throughout super now in tests..

The leadership group took the boys aside and we had a couple of honest admissions, around boys putting their hand up and (saying) ‘That’s not what we stand for, that’s not good enough,'" “The honesty in the group was awesome to see because, yeah, it was a tough watch and we had to call that out."

 

[Goosestep]

Donaldson to 10 is the right move. This isn't Carters fault but poor managing from Eddie. There should never have been 1 specialist 10 but since there is we have to work around it. Kellaway is one of our only genuine attacking threats. Donaldson (who hasn't put a foot wrong so far) doesn't have that spark at the back but looks composed which could transfer well to fly-half. Predicting the Wallabies to pull together for this one.

It’s Carters fault too…

if You say Donaldson was picked for “not putting a foot wrong”, logically Carter was dropped for performing poorly.

 

[Goosestep]

Interesting that Slipper remains on the TH side despite Pone coming back.

You’d want that experience in the starting line up considering how crucial the game is

 

[dillyboy]

I would have preferred fines on the bench - what's the point bringing on Gorgon at the end if White's not going to give him the ball anyway....

 

[Members Section]

Why is Porecki captain ahead of Tate?

 

[swingpass]

Why is Porecki captain ahead of Tate?

because its Eddie

 

[Tomthumb]

Tate not being the captain makes no sense. I get it’s not a huge thing but it just screams dysfunctional

 

[The_Brown_Hornet]

Don't mind the side, go get 'em boys