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RWC: AUS v ENG (Twickenham): POOL A; 6am (AEDT) Sunday 4 October

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the plastic paddy

John Solomon (38)
Right my Antipodean friends. It is Carpe Diem time. Today Australia can dump England out of their RWC and, in the process send out a strong and definitive message that Rugby Union is best run by the Unions not by self interested sugar daddies who see the game as an opportunity to extend their penises. When Aussie win today the post mortems will start and hopefully they will end with the RFU taking control of the English game back from these langers and, in the process significantly reducing the player drain from the SH to England and France. Gwan Aussie, you are playing for the good of the game today and the rest of the world is right behind you!!!!!!
 

BDA

Jim Lenehan (48)
I think the most reliable way to rate the scrums of Wales/England/Australia is to see how they performed against Fiji. All three just resorted to good honest scrummaging against Fiji and the results were interesting. You'd have to say Australia looked the best. unfortunately i doubt we'll see a lot of honest scrummaging from England tonight.

The Welsh pack is massive, so I don't know how they were beaten in that area by fiji.
 

Cardiffblue

Jim Lenehan (48)
Cmon Australia. Let's do this! This sky s-falling-in stuff is Part of welsh Dna but doesn't sit well with Australians. You all need a gnome. I've been wrong before but this evening I'm feeling good again- just like last week in fact! Win this game well and you're well set for the qf. And you'll have done the world a favour
 

Cardiffblue

Jim Lenehan (48)
I think the most reliable way to rate the scrums of Wales/England/Australia is to see how they performed against Fiji. All three just resorted to good honest scrummaging against Fiji and the results were interesting. You'd have to say Australia looked the best. unfortunately i doubt we'll see a lot of honest scrummaging from England tonight.

The Welsh pack is massive, so I don't know how they were beaten in that area by fiji.
That's one of the great unsolved mysteries but I'm sure it's got something to do with the body mechanics of gethin
 

Merrow

Arch Winning (36)
Bloody hell people. Stuff the nervousness. Man up (and woman up [@Merrow et al]) and get behind the Men in Gold.

This is only a pool match and we will win it.
The Soap Dodgers will exit they tournament after pool play, with the rest of the minnows just like the Cricket World Cup. Cheats won't prosper.

All pressure is on the Soap Dodgers and they will fold like a sheet of origami paper.

The delusion of their scrum powerbase based on Pythagorus Marler and The Hinge Vunipola has been exposed as the fraud that it is.

Boring stodgy footy is so 2003.
Nervous excitement is more like it. I'm convinced they can do it, in fact have been panned mercilessly at home for my blind optimism. Ok with that @Hugh
 

Cardiffblue

Jim Lenehan (48)
This day is gonna drag.

Anyway lets hope the best team (and we now know that no Ozzies wold make the England team thanks to Cips ;) ) wins.

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hey shelts! You playing a game this weekend. How are English gonna react when they lose?
 

Cardiffblue

Jim Lenehan (48)
Although, interestingly, Poite has refereed the Wallabies 3 times in the past 4 years, one of those being a 20-12 victory over the Orcs at Twickenham in 2012.

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That's really interesting qh. Hope he has a blinder. I'd be happy to be celebrating a cracking game by a ref at this rwc
 

Shelts89

Tom Lawton (22)
hey shelts! You playing a game this weekend. How are English gonna react when they lose?

I am indeed playing, which will help a little. I'd always choose to play over watch. Though thankfully I can play and watch this one!

And react when we lose? Well that isn't gonna happen is it ;) I would expect a massive media explosion though! Will be a good laugh seeing the media which usually just don't care about Rugby try to sound like they know anything at all.


I sometimes wonder which nation handles losing the worst out of England, Wales and South Africa. Hopefully we can handle last weeks loss like the ABs would... By pummeling the next team we play!
 

WOOLI

Frank Nicholson (4)
C'mon Wales, we need your support!

Chances are Wobbilies will win next week against you.

So if England win today, or even draw, Wales will be the team to miss out on QF's
 

Relance

Herbert Moran (7)
Don't know if it's been posted but that's absolutely shameless from Rowntree

"I've had a very positive conversation with Joël"
"It was a very positive conversation and I'm happy with what we have to do tomorrow"
"I have a lot of respect for this guy"
"French referees in particular have such composure around the set-piece"
"I'm a big fan. We've had some really good days at the office as a forward pack with Romain involved"

Talk about lubricating some holes...
 

BDA

Jim Lenehan (48)
C'mon Wales, we need your support!

Chances are Wobbilies will win next week against you.

So if England win today, or even draw, Wales will be the team to miss out on QF's


Welcome to the forum Wooli.
 

Cardiffblue

Jim Lenehan (48)
C'mon Wales, we need your support!

Chances are Wobbilies will win next week against you.

So if England win today, or even draw, Wales will be the team to miss out on QF's
You lost me on the logic that decides:
we beat England one week before at same venue yet Lose to Australia who fail.
 

Cardiffblue

Jim Lenehan (48)
I am indeed playing, which will help a little. I'd always choose to play over watch. Though thankfully I can play and watch this one!

And react when we lose? Well that isn't gonna happen is it ;) I would expect a massive media explosion though! Will be a good laugh seeing the media which usually just don't care about Rugby try to sound like they know anything at all.


I sometimes wonder which nation handles losing the worst out of England, Wales and South Africa. Hopefully we can handle last weeks loss like the ABs would. By pummeling the next team we play!
But a dead rubber pummelling of Uruguay isn't gonna do much for you
 

WOOLI

Frank Nicholson (4)
Thanks BDA,

Just sitting here in OZ waiting for the game.

May the best team win!

Hopefully OZ, as we need payback against JW in 2003 which devastated my 7yr old son at the time.

He's still playing though and going great
 

Cardiffblue

Jim Lenehan (48)
This from Eddie Butler in Guardian

England’s departure would run the risk of puncturing interest in the tournament.... However, the show will go on and it is not as if England, tangled up in hype, have brought much to the playing field so far.

They are not the England of 2003: they do not have a leader of Martin Johnson’s stature, a general with Jonny Wilkinson’s astuteness or players of the calibre of Jason Robinson, Will Greenwood, Lawrence Dallaglio, Richard Hill and Phil Vickery....

They lack the self-belief that comes with experience and success, slipping up in one match in each of the last four Six Nations. At the start of the tournament, only three players had reached 50 caps, a far fewer number than their rivals in the group, Wales and Australia. How many of Saturday’s lineup would have got into that 2003 side?...

They have Jonathan Joseph back to face Australia and, if fully fit, he should make a difference, but perhaps it says everything about where England are at, that they have come to depend on a player who at the start of the year was the third-choice 13 and was only called on because of injury...

You used to know what you would get with England, a powerful scrum, a strong lineout, breakdown presence, unyielding defence and a deadly goal-kicker. Only the last remains, through the freakishly accurate Owen Farrell, but otherwise they have been inconsistent in the set pieces, they apply little pressure on opposition ball at the breakdown because they lack a specialist No7 and they were badly caught out in defence for Wales’s try. Also, if they kick as aimlessly as they did that night, Israel Folau and his mates will punish them...

Watching Wales play against Fiji five days after beating England – something that in the past, as I well know, would have taken their heads into orbit for a long time – was to see what England lack: a hard-nosed approach, maturity, experience, some world-class players as well as an ability to unearth new ones, like Matthew and Tyler Morgan. In this tournament, where they have devastated by injury, Wales have been both brave and resilient, just what England need to be to beat Australia and make the knockout stages of their own Rugby World Cup.
 
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