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Peter Sullivan (51)
reading the comments that follow the article, not everyone over the ditch is so keen to yell "go aussie"
RWC: AUS v ENG (Twickenham): POOL A; 6am (AEDT) Sunday 4 October
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reading the comments that follow the article, not everyone over the ditch is so keen to yell "go aussie"
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David Wilson (68)
Christ swing, never read comments, they usually by bitter people that got nothing better to do, there a lot of poms in NZ too
Mind you we do have long memories and it will take a long time to forget that the ARU were so vocal against us getting the 2011 WC, so we have issues to overcome
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David Wilson (68)
Here's an article from a London journalist. Think it really shows how the fans and rugby media over there are feeling right now. And they are nervous.
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/bl...a-michael-cheika-england-rugby-world-cup-2015
It is as close any of the Australians have come in the past couple of days to engaging with the huge elephant in the room. They will not discuss Saturday. Nor will they discuss England’s defeat to Wales. Apparently, they did not even watch it.
Joe Tomane said after the Uruguay game, which kicked off at the unusual time of midday, that they were all in bed, aligning their body clocks for the next day’s early kick-off. That seemed like a convenient ruse by Tomane to avoid the matter that will not be discussed, but McCalman read from the same hymn sheet the next day, practically word for word.
“So, Ben,” the desperate cry goes up. “You’re trailing this Saturday by three points with two minutes to go and the ref awards you a penalty up against the touchline. What do you do?”
McCalman fixes us with a twinkle in his eye as he weighs up his answer. “Dunno, mate,” comes the reply eventually. “I’m not the captain.”
His face is practically bursting with the internal fires of a suppressed personality. Still he holds our gaze – and that personality in check. You know he wants to say something, but he will not. You know he has a personality. He’s an Aussie. Of course, he has one. They all do – and it’s big and bristling and being ruthlessly contained.
England’s problem is how to deal with it when it is finally – and very suddenly – unleashed. Which will be at precisely 8pm on Saturday.
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/bl...a-michael-cheika-england-rugby-world-cup-2015
It is as close any of the Australians have come in the past couple of days to engaging with the huge elephant in the room. They will not discuss Saturday. Nor will they discuss England’s defeat to Wales. Apparently, they did not even watch it.
Joe Tomane said after the Uruguay game, which kicked off at the unusual time of midday, that they were all in bed, aligning their body clocks for the next day’s early kick-off. That seemed like a convenient ruse by Tomane to avoid the matter that will not be discussed, but McCalman read from the same hymn sheet the next day, practically word for word.
“So, Ben,” the desperate cry goes up. “You’re trailing this Saturday by three points with two minutes to go and the ref awards you a penalty up against the touchline. What do you do?”
McCalman fixes us with a twinkle in his eye as he weighs up his answer. “Dunno, mate,” comes the reply eventually. “I’m not the captain.”
His face is practically bursting with the internal fires of a suppressed personality. Still he holds our gaze – and that personality in check. You know he wants to say something, but he will not. You know he has a personality. He’s an Aussie. Of course, he has one. They all do – and it’s big and bristling and being ruthlessly contained.
England’s problem is how to deal with it when it is finally – and very suddenly – unleashed. Which will be at precisely 8pm on Saturday.
Pfitzy
Nathan Sharpe (72)
No worries, I'm here
Big thing about that gif is is shows Marler's arse "kick-out" right after the feed happens. The Welsh pack straight, thinking they're about to get driven off the ball, but then it goes south (or right in this case) when the wheel is put on.
At no point is Robshaw legally bound, and he clearly has no intent to do anything about pushing straight judging by his body position.
If you want a REAL clue as to the English intent - watch Wood's feet (White #6 bottom of picture): after the feed, just as the half is getting around the back of the scrum - with no intent of picking it up - you see Wood put his hand on the ground, then his inside leg steps under him, his right leg steps right out, and he starts towing the scrum sideways around the Welsh LHP.
Mind you, Warburton doesn't do his THP any favours by diving in to try and piss Robshaw off. If Warburton had stayed on, and all the Welsh started driving through the angle of Cole's setup, they could have exposed Marler and Robshaw on that side of the scrum.
Also look at the shorts of the Welsh front row - I only see two white arses, meaning the hooker isn't putting himself in position to push as the third prop - this is another indication Wales didn't have their head screwed on right for this scrum, and England might have pushed them back even if they HAD pushed straight.
The main thing to note in terms of the direction of the scrum is NONE of the Pommy forwards drive over their own line - Marler crosses the hooker's feet, the hooker crosses Cole's, the locks don't even get NEAR the mark of the scrum.
Illegal as fuck, EXCEPT they weren't penalised, and its a thing of beauty in terms of coordination - ball in! 2, 3, SIDEWAYS! 2, 3, APPEAL TO THE REF!
The cure for this is what we did to the ABs earlier in the year - set your second row up for a shear drive (where you keep the front row straight, but angle the power from your big lumps) against the push of the LHP. It requires whichever flanker is on the opposite side to Marler to really put in, which is dangerous because if they take the ball off the back he'll be half a step behind.
But mostly it needs our LHP - Sio/Slipper - to attack the fuck out of their THP and make him twist. Likewise our hooker needs to try and break their hooker's neck, and Holmes/Kepu turns their shoulder out and compresses Marler's chin onto his neck. Moore/TPN need to be propping at that point, and a full, low bind from the second row is required to push through the Pommy 2 & 3 in order to nullify the angle Marler is creating.
Meantime, Pocock and the other flanker wait to see if the ball is coming out, and snot whoever picks it up.
Only then will the Pommy 2nd row disengage and look like they're bringing it around the corner.
Mostly, with Twoite in charge, we need to get moving forward, even on our own ball.
Dewald Nel
Cyril Towers (30)
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David Codey (61)
And if that doesn't work,let's really upset these cheating c..t's and orchestrate a scenario requiring uncontested scrums.No worries, I'm here
Big thing about that gif is is shows Marler's arse "kick-out" right after the feed happens. The Welsh pack straight, thinking they're about to get driven off the ball, but then it goes south (or right in this case) when the wheel is put on.
At no point is Robshaw legally bound, and he clearly has no intent to do anything about pushing straight judging by his body position.
If you want a REAL clue as to the English intent - watch Wood's feet (White #6 bottom of picture): after the feed, just as the half is getting around the back of the scrum - with no intent of picking it up - you see Wood put his hand on the ground, then his inside leg steps under him, his right leg steps right out, and he starts towing the scrum sideways around the Welsh LHP.
Mind you, Warburton doesn't do his THP any favours by diving in to try and piss Robshaw off. If Warburton had stayed on, and all the Welsh started driving through the angle of Cole's setup, they could have exposed Marler and Robshaw on that side of the scrum.
Also look at the shorts of the Welsh front row - I only see two white arses, meaning the hooker isn't putting himself in position to push as the third prop - this is another indication Wales didn't have their head screwed on right for this scrum, and England might have pushed them back even if they HAD pushed straight.
The main thing to note in terms of the direction of the scrum is NONE of the Pommy forwards drive over their own line - Marler crosses the hooker's feet, the hooker crosses Cole's, the locks don't even get NEAR the mark of the scrum.
Illegal as fuck, EXCEPT they weren't penalised, and its a thing of beauty in terms of coordination - ball in! 2, 3, SIDEWAYS! 2, 3, APPEAL TO THE REF!
The cure for this is what we did to the ABs earlier in the year - set your second row up for a shear drive (where you keep the front row straight, but angle the power from your big lumps) against the push of the LHP. It requires whichever flanker is on the opposite side to Marler to really put in, which is dangerous because if they take the ball off the back he'll be half a step behind.
But mostly it needs our LHP - Sio/Slipper - to attack the fuck out of their THP and make him twist. Likewise our hooker needs to try and break their hooker's neck, and Holmes/Kepu turns their shoulder out and compresses Marler's chin onto his neck. Moore/TPN need to be propping at that point, and a full, low bind from the second row is required to push through the Pommy 2 & 3 in order to nullify the angle Marler is creating.
Meantime, Pocock and the other flanker wait to see if the ball is coming out, and snot whoever picks it up.
Only then will the Pommy 2nd row disengage and look like they're bringing it around the corner.
Mostly, with Twoite in charge, we need to get moving forward, even on our own ball.
I can hear the howls already.......
emuarse
Chilla Wilson (44)
No worries, I'm here
Big thing about that gif is is shows Marler's arse "kick-out" right after the feed happens. The Welsh pack straight, thinking they're about to get driven off the ball, but then it goes south (or right in this case) when the wheel is put on.
At no point is Robshaw legally bound, and he clearly has no intent to do anything about pushing straight judging by his body position.
If you want a REAL clue as to the English intent - watch Wood's feet (White #6 bottom of picture): after the feed, just as the half is getting around the back of the scrum - with no intent of picking it up - you see Wood put his hand on the ground, then his inside leg steps under him, his right leg steps right out, and he starts towing the scrum sideways around the Welsh LHP.
Mind you, Warburton doesn't do his THP any favours by diving in to try and piss Robshaw off. If Warburton had stayed on, and all the Welsh started driving through the angle of Cole's setup, they could have exposed Marler and Robshaw on that side of the scrum.
Also look at the shorts of the Welsh front row - I only see two white arses, meaning the hooker isn't putting himself in position to push as the third prop - this is another indication Wales didn't have their head screwed on right for this scrum, and England might have pushed them back even if they HAD pushed straight.
The main thing to note in terms of the direction of the scrum is NONE of the Pommy forwards drive over their own line - Marler crosses the hooker's feet, the hooker crosses Cole's, the locks don't even get NEAR the mark of the scrum.
Illegal as fuck, EXCEPT they weren't penalised, and its a thing of beauty in terms of coordination - ball in! 2, 3, SIDEWAYS! 2, 3, APPEAL TO THE REF!
The cure for this is what we did to the ABs earlier in the year - set your second row up for a shear drive (where you keep the front row straight, but angle the power from your big lumps) against the push of the LHP. It requires whichever flanker is on the opposite side to Marler to really put in, which is dangerous because if they take the ball off the back he'll be half a step behind.
But mostly it needs our LHP - Sio/Slipper - to attack the fuck out of their THP and make him twist. Likewise our hooker needs to try and break their hooker's neck, and Holmes/Kepu turns their shoulder out and compresses Marler's chin onto his neck. Moore/TPN need to be propping at that point, and a full, low bind from the second row is required to push through the Pommy 2 & 3 in order to nullify the angle Marler is creating.
Meantime, Pocock and the other flanker wait to see if the ball is coming out, and snot whoever picks it up.
Only then will the Pommy 2nd row disengage and look like they're bringing it around the corner.
Mostly, with Twoite in charge, we need to get moving forward, even on our own ball.
Well now that we've got that clear...
matty_k
Peter Johnson (47)
But the if the Wallabies lose this one then it brings England right back into it and bonus points come into play.
The Wallabies will absolutely be viewing this match as do or die.
Qualification is up for grabs for either team in this game. The loser will certainly be out if it's England and probably out if it's Australia.
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David Codey (61)
You are assuming that Wales will trounce Fiji.
That's no foregone conclusion....
Lots of possible scenarios in this pool!
That's no foregone conclusion....
Lots of possible scenarios in this pool!
Dewald Nel
Cyril Towers (30)
Then you can say the same for England vs. Wales, and yet they still lost. Wasn't quite as last-gasp as the Aussie game will be for them though. It has essentially become a knockout game for them. For Australia it isn't.
Yes and they will know the result of the Wales game a couple of days beforehand but I doubt they're taking that into their planning.
I'm not assuming that Wales will trounce Fiji but I certainly think the Wallabies will spend this week planning that they're playing for their lives against England this weekend. If Fiji happen to upset Wales they'll presumably not want to think about that because they'll want to go into the test with maximum intensity.
Pedrolicus
Dick Tooth (41)
Pedrolicus
Dick Tooth (41)
Syndesmotic injury, often results in a fibula fracture as ligaments between the tib and fib are compromised. Either way he played most of the match with it and was out for six weeks after. I think that's pretty tough.
Highlander35
Steve Williams (59)
If Wales beat Fiji and Aus beat England the Welshies will put out the 2md string against you guys, they'll come 2nd and play South Africa, or hopefully us at Millennium instead of Us or the Saffas or Japan or Samoa at Twickers.
Tomikin
David Codey (61)
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