RWC 2015 Final - Australia v New Zealand, Twickenham, Sunday 1 November, 3:00 AEDT

[Rugbynutter39]

Although I tend to agree the kid probably shouldn't of been rewarded for breaking rules, I tend to think that SBW probably saw a kid get knocked over by security guard, and thought to make things a bit better for him, don't forget Messam put the AB beanie he was wearing on the kids head too. If SBW thought that quickly here is a chance for good PR, he is perhaps a bit smarter than I ever gave him credit for, because bottom line is it was top PR for rugby as well as for SBW, he also arranged for a couple of his tickets to be given to a couple of refugees, so perhaps I tend to bthink he should maybe get a little credit. as for the kid, don't know if he spoilt etc, but I know when I was a young fella I broke plenty of ground rules at rugby like climbing over fences etc to a
avoid paying, so unlike a lot of you here i can't point finger!

Cripes have we all become that sad to criticise someones motive for doing a good deed. I prefer to keep it simple. A high profile player like that does a good deed it is good for the game.

I really can't be bothered undoing what is a good deed by questioning ones motives as that seems really petty. If they do a good deed that should be applauded - not lauded.

Otherwise whats the alternative - be happy with those who don't do good deeds or focus on those who just screw up.

So we reward good deeds by high profile sports stars with positive media coverage. Surely that is sort of thing we want to encourage and reward?

If such a deed encourages other high profile athletes to do similar things surely that can be only a good thing.

 

[Rugbynutter39]

Cripes have we all become that sad to criticise someones motive for doing a good deed. I prefer to keep it simple. A high profile player like that does a good deed it is good for the game.

I really can't be bothered undoing what is a good deed by questioning ones motives as that seems really petty. If they do a good deed that should be applauded - not lauded.

Otherwise whats the alternative - be happy with those who don't do good deeds or focus on those who just screw up.

So we reward good deeds by high profile sports stars with positive media coverage. Surely that is sort of thing we want to encourage and reward?

If such a deed encourages other high profile athletes to do similar things surely that can be only a good thing.

Only thing I probably did not agree with is any criticism of security guard as he is just doing his job. Fans are not meant to run onto the ground and approach players for security reasons.

 

[da_grubster]

Kepu was very lucky indeed. I saw this at the time and thought it looked bad - watching it again confirmed it. Could easily have been a yellow.

Head high tackle on NMS and then continues doing something once on the ground.

I think it's about 10sec in.

https://www.facebook.com/skysportnz/videos/916537191749280/

Add to that Kepu's two hits on carter and then he also tried to take McCaws head off when NMS scored. It adds up to he was very lucky to have not seen red, let alone stay on the field.

 

[Pfitzy]

Add to that Kepu's two hits on carter and then he also tried to take McCaws head off when NMS scored. It adds up to he was very lucky to have not seen red, let alone stay on the field.

As I said elsewhere: first yellow happens, unlikely to see any further yellows from that player. Course of the game is changed.

 

[formerflanker]

I really can't be bothered undoing what is a good deed by questioning ones motives as that seems really petty. If they do a good deed that should be applauded - not lauded.

Agree wholeheartedly.
SBW acted impulsively. Showing kindness on the spur of the moment indicates he is a very decent man. He had no time to gauge the effect of his decision on his "brand" or if World Rugby would give him a replacement, or how much the kid's parents earn. He just did a compassionate thing out of the goodness of his heart.

Good on him; and as a unintended consequence of his actions, rugby looks good too.

 

[Shiggins]

Can someone stop the kiwi fans. The players were good winners. The fans are shocking. They won't shut up about the wallabies, using memes ect . They're acting like we didn't get out of the pool stages. Really poor form. Even one Facebook group called fcuk the wallabies.

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[Quick Hands]

This thread is going downhill faster than Jean-Claude Killy in his prime.

 

[light]

I've experienced quite the opposite Shiggins.

The majority of Kiwi's I've run into since the final have been good sports and given both teams credit. There's a fair few of them at work and in the last two days the worst I've received is an All Blacks flag sticky-taped to my desk on Monday morning.

Pretty astounding considering how much was levelled at them prior to the game (especially by me). I'm expecting they will continue to slowly rub it in over the next four years.

 

[Pfitzy]

The post-orgasmic slumber has ended for some in NZ (I can't emphasis "for some" enough).

The joy of winning has started to turn back to the rancid black milk in which they enjoy bathing and partaking as part of their regular diet.

These beasts were spawned in the Wallaby Golden Age around the turn of the century, and while a lot of kiwi fans are just getting on with their lives, there are some who can't let it go, and won't follow cricket so they've got something to go to in the off-season.

Now the comment Cheika made about Carter playing up for the penalty in Kepu's late tackle is doing the rounds and they're all like "Cheika is in danger of losing all that good will!"

I don't think they've cottoned on that impressing Kiwis is not top of his list, despite what they may think about their place in the world of rugby.

 

[USARugger]

I don't think they've cottoned on that impressing Kiwis is not top of his list, despite what they may think about their place in the world of rugby.

Such disruhspect

 

[Pfitzy]

I've experienced quite the opposite Shiggins.

The majority of Kiwi's I've run into since the final have been good sports and given both teams credit. There's a fair few of them at work and in the last two days the worst I've received is an All Blacks flag sticky-taped to my desk on Monday morning.

Pretty astounding considering how much was levelled at them prior to the game (especially by me). I'm expecting they will continue to slowly rub it in over the next four years.

The difference between social media and personal space, light, is what it comes down to.

See my earlier analogy of telling the opposing side's lock he's a fucking loser just after your team wins the grand final. Not happening.

 

[Pfitzy]

Such disruhspect

PUCKUNG ON OUR ICKSENT?!!!

DUSRISPICT!!!

 

[Scotty]

Mate it was PR genius by SBW, just like him tweating he wanted to give spare tickets to some Syrian refugees.

Maybe to the masses but he doesn't fool me. To me he just comes across as a bit dumb:

1. Giving away a medal that he worked hard and sacrificed for
2. Giving it to some kid who thought he was above the rules

 

[terry j]

I really can't be bothered undoing what is a good deed by questioning ones motives as that seems really petty. If they do a good deed that should be applauded - not lauded.

was going to like your post (and I do agree wholeheartedly with it), and I will likely sound like a pedantic prick, but lauded DOES mean praiseworthy, highly deemed.

apart from that, as you were!!!

 

[Scotty]

Agree wholeheartedly.
SBW acted impulsively. Showing kindness on the spur of the moment indicates he is a very decent man. He had no time to gauge the effect of his decision on his "brand" or if World Rugby would give him a replacement, or how much the kid's parents earn. He just did a compassionate thing out of the goodness of his heart.

Good on him; and as a unintended consequence of his actions, rugby looks good too.

Man you guys are making me a little sick!

Do you really think he needed to give away a winners medal to show compassion for this poor downtrodden baby boy?

Or maybe it was enough to escort him back to his seat and take a few pics with him?

I don't question SBW motives - I just think he is a little insane or daft to do what he did.

There are much better causes in this world than a 14 year old pitch invaded who just had his parents give him a 300 or more pound ticket to the rugby!

 

[The_Brown_Hornet]

Yeah most Kiwi's I've had contact with have been pretty gracious and acknowledged what a great final it was. Social media is not actually a guide for how society is. It's just a bunch of idiot noisy minorities with a mouthpiece. Most people are decent when you meet them in person. Some aren't way when they're behind a keyboard.

 

[teach]

Eh least mine is legible, some of them write like they are speaking another language

That is a bit harsh. Australian is clearly a variation on the English language. We can understand it clearly enough once we get past that horrible accent.

 

[fatprop]

Maybe to the masses but he doesn't fool me. To me he just comes across as a bit dumb:

1. Giving away a medal that he worked hard and sacrificed for
2. Giving it to some kid who thought he was above the rules

To you, maybe not, but I expect his magnanimous gesture got nearly as much positive press coverage as the rest of the players in that final combined; and not just on the sports pages.

Not bad for a bench player

 

[waiopehu oldboy]

Welcome home, Bill

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/73654743/recap-glorious-homecoming-for-champion-all-blacks

 

[mark_s]

To you, maybe not, but I expect his magnanimous gesture got nearly as much positive press coverage as the rest of the players in that final combined; and not just on the sports pages.

Not bad for a bench player

On the back of the coverage of his sportsmanship at the end of the bok semi final. Im no $bw fan, but geez I think it's tough to criticise him for his actions on this.


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