Yeah, he probably didn't notice the 200 cameras and TV crews
Forget that though - can someone remind me why the kid deserved a World Cup winners medal?
RWC 2015 Final - Australia v New Zealand, Twickenham, Sunday 1 November, 3:00 AEDT
- Thread starter Hugh Jarse
- Start date
- Status
Yeah, he probably didn't notice the 200 cameras and TV crews
Forget that though - can someone remind me why the kid deserved a World Cup winners medal?
Dave Beat
Paul McLean (56)
What were parents doing
Hugh Jarse
Rocky Elsom (76)
Jaysus. Some people are quick to get the tin foil hats on.
If this was a media stunt, then there were so many moving parts in it that it was bound to go all pear shaped.
Can't you accept that humans can be spontaneously nice?
Even a former Loig player who famously walked out on a Mungo contract, converted to Islam, is mates with QC (Quade Cooper), has a bit of an odd player manager, sort of lives in Sydney but plays for NZL, is a part time heavyweight boxer, who switches sporting codes and teams as often as Australia changes Prime Ministers, and now wants to have a lash at adding an Olympic Medal to his collection can still act like a decent fellow at times.
SBW doesn't seem to be a particularly academic fellow or strategic thinker, neither does his player manager. I reckon he would think that Machiavelli is either an Italian sports car or new type of wierdly shaped pasta that he hasn't heard of.
Yes, World Rugby were probably always going to give him a replacement medal. The heavy handed and unreasonable actions of the Security Guard going all Boris Johnson on the kid, who was seemingly about to attack the NZL Heavyweight Boxing champion, embarrassed them into it.
Good on SBW for saying that if it was one of his relatives on the receiving end, he would have had given the Security Bloke a hiding.
So World Rugby did the right thing over the "Pitch Invader". Will they do the right thing about Craig Joubert?
If this was a media stunt, then there were so many moving parts in it that it was bound to go all pear shaped.
Can't you accept that humans can be spontaneously nice?
Even a former Loig player who famously walked out on a Mungo contract, converted to Islam, is mates with QC (Quade Cooper), has a bit of an odd player manager, sort of lives in Sydney but plays for NZL, is a part time heavyweight boxer, who switches sporting codes and teams as often as Australia changes Prime Ministers, and now wants to have a lash at adding an Olympic Medal to his collection can still act like a decent fellow at times.
SBW doesn't seem to be a particularly academic fellow or strategic thinker, neither does his player manager. I reckon he would think that Machiavelli is either an Italian sports car or new type of wierdly shaped pasta that he hasn't heard of.
Yes, World Rugby were probably always going to give him a replacement medal. The heavy handed and unreasonable actions of the Security Guard going all Boris Johnson on the kid, who was seemingly about to attack the NZL Heavyweight Boxing champion, embarrassed them into it.
Good on SBW for saying that if it was one of his relatives on the receiving end, he would have had given the Security Bloke a hiding.
So World Rugby did the right thing over the "Pitch Invader". Will they do the right thing about Craig Joubert?
Hugh Jarse
Rocky Elsom (76)
Quite a bit more than running on a pitch FFS
Who said media stunts need massive forward planning?
formerflanker
Ken Catchpole (46)
Monday morning. Disapointment beginning to dissipate. Pride in the team still high. Hopes for the future rising. Worry for Matt Giteau lessening. Respect for NZ still strong. Anticipation for the Cook Cup building quickly.
Rugby - the game they play in heaven.
Rugby - the game they play in heaven.
formerflanker
Ken Catchpole (46)
Now I understand why the prodigal son's older brother, who did everything right yet sees the fatted calf killed to feast his errant brother's return, got so cranky.
Think of all those young fans who did as expected only to see a pitch invader rewarded.
ACT Crusader
Jim Lenehan (48)
Not sure if the question has been answered, but why didn't To'omua replace Giteau?
Yes Beale has had a very good tournament and back to some of his running best, but that has been from the back 3 not as a midfielder. At a time when Nonu had been making inroads in the midfield and Carter was playing quite flat, I would've thought a strong defensive player and actual midfielder like To'omua would've been more appropriate.
Yes Beale has had a very good tournament and back to some of his running best, but that has been from the back 3 not as a midfielder. At a time when Nonu had been making inroads in the midfield and Carter was playing quite flat, I would've thought a strong defensive player and actual midfielder like To'omua would've been more appropriate.
It's an important lesson for Sonny Bill Williams that if you're a famous person, good deeds can be done with no personal sacrifice.
It's also an important lesson for the kid that if you do something that would get an adult arrested and banned from the venue in future, someone will instead give you a medal.
It's also an important lesson for the kid that if you do something that would get an adult arrested and banned from the venue in future, someone will instead give you a medal.
The same thing happened against Argentina when Giteau was replaced.
I guess Cheika felt that Beale was one of his form players and wanted him on the field.
Hard to really question that it was the wrong decision given how well Beale played. He didn't really defend at 12.
Hugh Jarse
Rocky Elsom (76)
& Sydney 7's. Don't forget that our blokes still haven't qualified for the Rio Olympics, and for the real tragics, the NRC Barbarians will be having a go at the NZL Heartland XV in the next week or so.
Club Pre-PreSeasons are about to get underway in earnest, as are the State U20's squads. For those with an eye on RWC2019 and RWC2023 the Junior Gold Squad programme is also underway.
It has been a long season.
Brumby Runner
Jason Little (69)
So we can expect continuing news and controversy on the GAGR site during the official off-season. How good is that.
ACT Crusader
Jim Lenehan (48)
I know Beale dropped back in defence, but to me that was part of the problem. Things just seemed disorganised in the Wallaby defence when the ABs were bending the line in attack.
Colin Windon
Herbert Moran (7)
Monday morning arrives and I feel a sense of pride about our team. NZ were the better side and deserved the win but a 21-17 I thought we could potentially pull off the miracle.
Well played and Rugby is back on the national stage again with an opportunity there to be seized upon.
I heard the ARU advertising on radio this morning so they are onto it and the great Cheika as well as being a excellent coach is worth more PR $ than any slick advertising company could ever concoct. Even the Melbourne media were engaged.
The accessability of the players and coach to the media was great through the tournament and they popped up everywhere to promote the code. I think the coach and team understands the "big picture" of what needs to be done to promote the code in Australia.
Finally in order to get out of my post final funk I replayed the Waratahs 2014 Super Rugby final last night. The NZ win and lose with good grace but there is no doubt that victory is a more enjoyable partner!
Well played and Rugby is back on the national stage again with an opportunity there to be seized upon.
I heard the ARU advertising on radio this morning so they are onto it and the great Cheika as well as being a excellent coach is worth more PR $ than any slick advertising company could ever concoct. Even the Melbourne media were engaged.
The accessability of the players and coach to the media was great through the tournament and they popped up everywhere to promote the code. I think the coach and team understands the "big picture" of what needs to be done to promote the code in Australia.
Finally in order to get out of my post final funk I replayed the Waratahs 2014 Super Rugby final last night. The NZ win and lose with good grace but there is no doubt that victory is a more enjoyable partner!
Highlander35
Steve Williams (59)
Yes and No. $300,000 was spent on insurance covering the required bonuses should they have won the RWC final, which would have been in excess of $3,000,000 on players bonuses alone.
Blue
Andrew Slack (58)
That is dangerously close to a victim mentality.
Brumby Runner
Jason Little (69)
The top ten sides will each get about $12m (I think) from the WR (World Rugby) as their share of the RWC spoils. $300k is a whole lot smaller chunk out of that than $3m would have been. Very good decision by the ARU imo.
Highlander35
Steve Williams (59)
I agree it was a good decision. The Yes and No was that it's not "really" gambling is it, like car insurance isn't a bet that I'll crash my car.
- Status