Rugby spirit

[Zeno]

Sorry Zeno, I'll leave you to post whatever imaginary shit you prefer to dream up in future. Would that keep you happy?

I wasn't seeking an apology and I don't need you to make me happy. I (as a forum member, not a moderator) am asking you to adjust your attitude and posting conduct from here on, for everyone's sake.

The problem is your need to put others right, as self-appointed Corrector of the Sacred Minutiae of Facts. Why not have a think about why it's important to you, and how it makes you look?

As for my factual error, I concede the point. I did have a clear (but obviously faulty) recollection that the Welsh got stuck into Collins the first chance they got, so maybe it took him 50 minutes to find the courage to take the ball up.

 

[Zeno]

I note our erstwhile kiwi didn't take issue with this part tho;
ouch.

This discussion tells me two things. One watch out for welshmen in boots. Two, playing hard in the inter web forums has a lot less consequences than playing aforesaid welshmen in rugby.

It was a great Test match, Ath; the Collins incident was a small part of it. Eight tries to four and 53–37 in the end, but Wales had the lead with 20 to go. Match Report.

 

[Toddy]

I actually thought Collins left the field briefly in the 1st half for blood? Not sure at what time or if it was after said incident.

 

[antipodean]

I note our erstwhile kiwi didn't take issue with this part tho

Why would I? It was accurate. Most people with rib cartilage injuries look in pain.

Zeno does have a point. There is no need to be all pedantic about little facts, what he said was more or less the way it panned out.

That he was wrong on a key premise is not my fault, nor is it that some people have such thin skins they can't accept a correction or have to make a snide comment in doing so.

I actually thought Collins left the field briefly in the 1st half for blood? Not sure at what time or if it was after said incident.

Yes he did. So'oialo came on briefly late in the first half.

 

[HKTiger]

I took Rugby up later in life being from Melbourne. It was only when I left Oz and moved to the Philippines that I started playing Rugby at the age of 29. There I learnt much about the social side of Rugby. The songs, the tours, the camaraderie. Fell in love with the game unequivocally.

I read the opening post and it reminded me of a few key areas which have always re-inforced my love of the game and the spirit that it is played in. The tunnel after, the fact that the ref is always "Sir", the fact that what happens on the field stays on the field (and what happens on tour, stays on tour (though there is one Scottish bastard in Singapore who stole a girl off me by telling tales of what occurred on tour (so that rule is not always adhered to))). The LHP or Hooker is always named Rick with the silent "P".

I recall playing a touring University side from Japan when I was playing for the Nomads in Singapore. I was # 7 playing against a 53 year old Japanese University professor. He gave me a bath. After the game we exchanged club shirts and ties and drank sake until very late (or early as you have it). My opponent I found out had been a professional baseball player until the age of 35, when his eyes started to go, so he took up Rugby for the team spirit and camaraderie. A great guy and lots of fun to be with. we'd gone at each other hammer and tongs during the game and after we just had a good time.

Agree with the earlier sentiment that Rugby means that you can go anywhere in the world, walk into a Rugby club and feel automatically at home.

 

[Scarfman]

Cheers Antipodean. Just the right tone for the "Rugby spirit" thread.

 

[antipodean]

Yes, because I started it.

 

[light]

Finished it too by the looks of it, well done.

 

[Sully]

pretty disappointed with the attitude in here.

 

[Nusadan]

I took Rugby up later in life being from Melbourne. It was only when I left Oz and moved to the Philippines that I started playing Rugby at the age of 29. There I learnt much about the social side of Rugby. The songs, the tours, the camaraderie. Fell in love with the game unequivocally.

I read the opening post and it reminded me of a few key areas which have always re-inforced my love of the game and the spirit that it is played in. The tunnel after, the fact that the ref is always "Sir", the fact that what happens on the field stays on the field (and what happens on tour, stays on tour (though there is one Scottish bastard in Singapore who stole a girl off me by telling tales of what occurred on tour (so that rule is not always adhered to))). The LHP or Hooker is always named Rick with the silent "P".

I recall playing a touring University side from Japan when I was playing for the Nomads in Singapore. I was # 7 playing against a 53 year old Japanese University professor. He gave me a bath. After the game we exchanged club shirts and ties and drank sake until very late (or early as you have it). My opponent I found out had been a professional baseball player until the age of 35, when his eyes started to go, so he took up Rugby for the team spirit and camaraderie. A great guy and lots of fun to be with. we'd gone at each other hammer and tongs during the game and after we just had a good time.

Agree with the earlier sentiment that Rugby means that you can go anywhere in the world, walk into a Rugby club and feel automatically at home.

Good read, mate...

 

[Zeno]

That he was wrong on a key premise is not my fault,

I was not wrong on a 'key premise'. The only 'key premise' is that the Welsh forwards chopped up Collins in revenge for Charvis's knockout. An eight-year-old memory told me it happened in the first half but it was in the second; that's all.

You are the obsessive corrector who either holds by-the-minute data for Test replacements, or—more likely—runs away to check the log books because you're desperate to try to catch someone out on an inconsequential matter of fact. I've asked you to reflect on why you need to do that and I believe your contribution to the forum will be enhanced if you make a small adjustment to your attitude in that regard. That's my last word.

.................

It is a long time since I played a match of rugby and I've been a spectator for a lot longer than I was ever a player. The rugby spirit that enriches my life these days is that I can go anywhere in Sydney or wider NSW and find someone I can have a yarn with about club, Super or Test rugby. You only have to start talking to blokes to see the passion, pride and frustration that fires them up. I've been a fan of rugby league and Aussie rules at times but those codes don't have the same culture and common love for the game for its own sake that rugby has. Rugby people are always good company.

 

[Blob]

The only 'key premise' is that the Welsh forwards chopped up Collins in revenge for Charvis's knockout.

How about proof that it happened at all. Or should we just assume that any player who is injured in the game after which they injured another player, was injured for revenge?

 

[Gagger]

Take it as feedback Antipodean - turns out this isn't the only rugby forum on the planet where you've just about worn out your welcome.

 

[Bon]

If only all of the supporters had the same attitude as the players. I find the endless mindless sledging between our two nations rather tiresome.

 

[#1 Tah]

Play the ball, not the man. Both of you are at fault.

 

[SaderCheif]

NZRU boss Steve 'Tewie' Tew lacks the spirit of rugby apparently......

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/5695832/Tew-threatens-to-pull-out-of-next-World-Cup

Thoughts?

 

[Scarfman]

Thoughts? How about: :lmao: Nice try Steve.

 

[SaderCheif]

Thoughts? How about: :lmao: Nice try Steve.

Completely agree.

 

[MajorlyRagerly]

Anyway, lets talk rugby spirit. After a week in NZ, I'm absolutely full of it!

I went to 4 matches, and saw 8 diff teams play. Here is a quick rundown:

1. Aus vs Ireland. Pre match in Kingsland, few beers with fans from all 3 countries.. Aussies, Irish and Kiwirish. Singing, chanting, banter & a good comradarie across the board. Aussie spirits were a bit down afterwards and some people were giving them heaps, but nothing I thought too bad & in the pub afterwards, there was loads of beers being shared & bought.
2. England vs Georgia. I sat next to an old rugby fella from Harlequins in London and also next to a whole buch of Kiorgians. Had a great yarn about Nick Evans tot he quins fella and gave him some tips on where to go in NZ. In return, he gave me some cards to get in touch when (I wish if, but probably when) I move back to London and he would hook me up as part of the supporters club. A true gent. The Kigeorgians, were just supporting the underdog in true NZ style. Nothing malicous, great fun all around
3. NZ vs France. You wouldn't know that France has knocked NZ out of 2 world cups. The banter amongst fans was brilliant. French were singing, were acknowledging good AB play and were very gracious in defeat. Hands shaken afterwards & stories shared
4. Fiji vs Samoa. 2 sets of fans, loving each others company and at the end the 2 teams prayed together, as one.

I know a lot of media are focusing mainly on negative things in NZ about the RWC. But I found the spirit of the locals, the travelling fans, the players & even the banter amongst the pundits on TV, to be bang inline with what we know as rugby spirit.

It's alive and well, long may it continue.

 

[antipodean]

NZRU boss Steve 'Tewie' Tew lacks the spirit of rugby apparently......

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/5695832/Tew-threatens-to-pull-out-of-next-World-Cup

Thoughts?

Fairly drastic step albeit one that may have to be taken into consideration if the union's business model can't afford the loss. What New Zealand really needs to push for is equitable gate sharing, which would help all unions apart from the RFU, but they've got metric shit-tonnes of money.