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Rugby League players who could have/could make the switch

WorkingClassRugger

Michael Lynagh (62)
True, he might be happy in Toulouse/South of France/France/Europe and never plans on coming back to Australia.

But an Aussie eligible 196cm 140kg back row playing Union is someone that the ARU and all the Super Sides should at least be making enquiries about.

Even if nothing comes of it, it's due diligence. Same way I'd be a little disappointed if the Rebels weren't at least having very casual chats with the managers ranging from Sam Johnson to Peter Kimlin to Paul Alo-Emile and to Pat Sio etc. So that if they do want to/are willing to come back, we are ready to start making sensible and realistic offers.

Stats I found on him said he's around 202cm these days. From what I've seen in his highlights reel he looks like Will Skelton but quicker and more explosive in contact.
 

Lindommer

Simon Poidevin (60)
Staff member
.....if Edwin Maka stayed in Melbourne.....

Melbourne? Que? Edwin went to school in Sydney somewhere and played colts for West Harbour about 2010-12. Did he start from Melbourne before he reached the promised land at Concord? :D
 

amirite

Chilla Wilson (44)
Melbourne? Que? Edwin went to school in Sydney somewhere and played colts for West Harbour about 2010-12. Did he start from Melbourne before he reached the promised land at Concord? :D

I don't think that's what happened. I believe he went from Melbourne (Endeavour Hills RC specifically), straight to France. In all fairness, I think he was only in Victoria from 16 to 18 (similar to Junior Laloifi).

Maybe you're getting wires crossed, maybe I'm getting wires crossed, but I'm quite sure that's the story.
 

amirite

Chilla Wilson (44)
An old G&G post (2013) from a bloke named SuperGrover says...
The loss of a player such as Edwin Maka is also a timely reminder that Australian rugby must develop players that fail to make Australian schoolboys. Maka was part of the 2011 Victorian U18 Division 1 team that made history with their first win over a NSW team (NSW II). Standout players for Victoria that day were Edwin Maka, Nigel Tunavassa and Nuia Puaka.

In an article at the time newly appointed Head Coach of the Rebels, Damien Hill said:
"As a Club, we are working hard to ensure that in the near future, we have a home grown player pulling on the Rebels jersey, who has come through the VRU state teams and the Rebel Rugby programs.These young men who made history in the Divison I Champs are certainly known to us– it is great to think that they are fast becoming known to the rest of Australia."

The article he's quoting is long-gone.

Optimistically - at least that pathway for blokes that missed Aussie Schoolboys now exists. Hooray!
 

Tangawizi

Peter Fenwicke (45)

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
The young bloke from Newington clearly has a media savvy Player Manager.

Heard it all before, many times, about the Schoolboy sensations who are going to light the world on fire.

Many don't.

15/16 mungo clubs are interested. They are known for their awesome talent spotting ability aren't they, always getting it right. The Player Managers play the clubs recruiters like a canny Highland poacher plays a trout with their favourite fly. Let him go.

If he wants to give Colts and NRC a go then we may see how good he actually is compared to his peer group. The Schoolboy Sensation batting average isn't all that high in the real world post school.
 
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TOCC

Guest
Some of the best schoolboy athletes in NSW and QLD come through rugby union programs as a byproduct of private school scholarship. Australian Rugby isn't going to sign all of them, it's just not feasible, or practical. But what's needed is to ensure that Australian Rugby is at least capturing the top 5-6 each year because these are the ones who are going to go onto higher honours.

Especially in the space of big, strong, ball running running back rower type players, this is an area where the NRL and even the AFL now are competitive and active, and it's reflected in the current stocks of Australian Super Rugby teams and now at Wallaby level
 

oztimmay

Tony Shaw (54)
Staff member
And yet again, the Andrew Fifita merry-go-round, will-he-or-wont-he bullshit is back in full swing. Please FFS I hope t he Rebels are not talking to this guy. Regardless of any 'talent', which I've yet to see in a Rugby (Union) context, the off-field stuff has created a bad enough smell for me.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/tw...a/news-story/7bb19d3e7e54be14936ca8ff26501f6a

Just feels like more posturing with the NRL than a serious attempt to convert him to a Rugby player.
 

Strewthcobber

Simon Poidevin (60)
Some of the best schoolboy athletes in NSW and QLD come through rugby union programs as a byproduct of private school scholarship. Australian Rugby isn't going to sign all of them, it's just not feasible, or practical. But what's needed is to ensure that Australian Rugby is at least capturing the top 5-6 each year because these are the ones who are going to go onto higher honours.

Especially in the space of big, strong, ball running running back rower type players, this is an area where the NRL and even the AFL now are competitive and active, and it's reflected in the current stocks of Australian Super Rugby teams and now at Wallaby level

What's the go with these scholarships? Lots of reports on Kaylen Ponga (as an example) say he was on a Brisbane Broncos scholarship when attending Churchie.

Are league teams paying for the education of these kids? And if so is your proposal realistic? They are going to have some pretty strong loyalties to the clubs and sports who stumped up the cash for them.
 

amirite

Chilla Wilson (44)
What's the go with these scholarships? Lots of reports on Kaylen Ponga (as an example) say he was on a Brisbane Broncos scholarship when attending Churchie.

Are league teams paying for the education of these kids? And if so is your proposal realistic? They are going to have some pretty strong loyalties to the clubs and sports who stumped up the cash for them.

There's lots of talk they do.

Personally I've been club mates rocking Qld schools preseason training tops from their youth with league logos on them. As if their school was a feeder to the club (specifically the GC Titans).
 

Mustafa

Chris McKivat (8)
And yet again, the Andrew Fifita merry-go-round, will-he-or-wont-he bullshit is back in full swing. Please FFS I hope t he Rebels are not talking to this guy. Regardless of any 'talent', which I've yet to see in a Rugby (Union) context, the off-field stuff has created a bad enough smell for me.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/tw...a/news-story/7bb19d3e7e54be14936ca8ff26501f6a

Just feels like more posturing with the NRL than a serious attempt to convert him to a Rugby player.


I hope the ARU don't take him on. We don't need his type playing rugby
 
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TOCC

Guest
What's the go with these scholarships? Lots of reports on Kaylen Ponga (as an example) say he was on a Brisbane Broncos scholarship when attending Churchie.

Are league teams paying for the education of these kids? And if so is your proposal realistic? They are going to have some pretty strong loyalties to the clubs and sports who stumped up the cash for them.


A little from column A and a little from column B... Clubs like the Broncos have in the past been more then happy to provide scholarships/subsidising education to some of their younger players and pay for them to attend a private school. In some circumstances, the private school has been the one to offer a schoolboy a scholarship who coincidentally may have already been on some form of NRL scholarship, so it has worked in tandem..

That was the case a number of years ago, i think the NRL is bringing in some new rules towards contracting schoolboys which may change this in the future.
 

amirite

Chilla Wilson (44)
Personally, I think what Fifita did on abusing those Jr refs is way worse than the armband fiasco. He knew a bloke who was (rightfully) in prison and he was supporting him when he's down. Unless I missed context, that's fine.

Do we think people in prison will be rehabilitated if we leave them to rot with no outside support?

As far as should we sign him, well I wouldn't be mad if the Rebels snapped him up for a 1 year cheap contract on the basis he gets his shit together and adapts to the game well. That being said, I think if he was offered peanuts he'd go overseas (probably France, the Japanese wouldn't sign a player who's been naughty).
 

Mustafa

Chris McKivat (8)
Personally, I think what Fifita did on abusing those Jr refs is way worse than the armband fiasco. He knew a bloke who was (rightfully) in prison and he was supporting him when he's down. Unless I missed context, that's fine.

Do we think people in prison will be rehabilitated if we leave them to rot with no outside support?

As far as should we sign him, well I wouldn't be mad if the Rebels snapped him up for a 1 year cheap contract on the basis he gets his shit together and adapts to the game well. That being said, I think if he was offered peanuts he'd go overseas (probably France, the Japanese wouldn't sign a player who's been naughty).


You don't advertise the support of a criminal ( king hit murderer ) on your wrist strapping in front of the sponsors, supporters etc for his own beliefs. I am sure the ARU would not cop it either. No Thanks
 
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