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George Smith (75)
^ see my posts #676 & 698, among others.
Rugby Championship in an Aussie bubble?
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Ignoto
Peter Sullivan (51)
Two things that highlights to me. 1) having over half your squad being overseas means you've lost complete control over your national team and 2) why couldn't they just send the younger generation who aren't lockee by the quarantine rule?
Honestly I don't care if they do or don't come out. It just looks bloody weird that they've known for how long that the players need 400-500 minutes of rugby, spend weeks telling us they're coming only to do an about face on the eve of when they need to leave.
I know SARU are banking hard on the BIL tour filling their bank accounts, but they're then heavily relying on a potential vaccine actually being viable. Dunno why you'd risk the house on it to be honest.
Dan54
David Wilson (68)
As an aside, all the posters that have insisted that RA should open the Wallabies to being selected from around the world wherever they are, aren't you glad they don't now , so Wallabies don't have this problem?
T always thought it was a crap idea.
Ulrich
Nev Cottrell (35)
Get it in your thick skull. SA never cut off the Sunwolves. The Japanese Rugby Union (JPRU) never subsidised their team going forward. If ARU and NZRU so welcomed them then, why did they not offer to sponsor their participation?
Going well there financially is it? Sponsor them you could not. Why should SARU take the blame for it. Fuck you.
dru
David Wilson (68)
Ulrich, mate. I understand things are tense and rugby discussion especially on an Aus forum heads to uncomfortable places right now. Also some posters here have been less than fair.
However, SARU required a funding arrangement with a Japan that was not required by any other franchise. I doubt it was the sole issue but was definitely material in JRU decission to not further subsidise a foreign comp.
Undoubtedly South Africa had their role in this. A considerably larger role than others.
Derpus
Nathan Sharpe (72)
I dont think its a good idea but i do think its inevitable.
Rebels3
Jim Lenehan (48)
https://english.kyodonews.net/news/...-may-lead-to-new-dawn-for-japanese-rugby.html
Best article on the situation. It’s was the JRFU that technically made the final decision but lots of political factors in the background from all sides. Rich Freeman is as trustworthy a journalist in rugby as you can find
Ulrich
Nev Cottrell (35)
Maybe?
SARU also lost out on RWC 2023 because of Japan's sneaky maneuvres. Most people don't recall that.
In SA we can accept someone leaving for more money if forewarned. Being blindsided like SARU were I don't blame them at all if they had decided to dump the Sunwolves earlier. If SARU had the money they may well have.
For once SARU themselves were publically honest w.r.t the RC and yet people have issues with that. It is way more than Japan and the rest of the world gave SA.
Anyway, we're only from Africa so who cares, right?
Ulrich
Nev Cottrell (35)
Unfathomable now that a 3x RWC winner has not had the chance to host in 24+ years. SARU have given up on bidding actually after 3 or 4 consecutive failed atrempts at landing the deal. Even after independent research sugfested SA was the best candidate for RWC 2023.
Thanks Japan for your betrayal.
Thanks Japan for your betrayal.
sendit
Bob Loudon (25)
I said they played a role in cutting them, is that incorrect?
I think it's time for you guys to remember that this forum was built on respect and civility for everyone. Take a second to think before you post and please cut out the personal insults. As long term members you get a fair bit of freedom that newer members don't because you know how to self moderate. Please keep it that way none of us want to start deleting posts and banning people.
molman
Jim Lenehan (48)
As one of the two countries (along with the Kiwi's) to come and tour your fair country after apartheid I don't think that this jibe is a necessarily fair reflection of the relationship the SH block has generally had even with all their at times competing interests.
Also South Africa does not represent all of Africa. There are a lot of African rugby unions who would be beyond envious of SARU's position, influence and resources.
Overall I'm really sad to not get a chance to watch some more Rugby. I was really looking forward to the different style of game that SA bring and have always enjoyed the rivalry. I think the timing of the announcement and elements of the proposed reasoning is what is causing upset. Potentially SANZAAR knew this was happening for awhile, as from all appearances it seems SA knew they were heading in this direction. I really hope there isn't unnecessary politicking going on behind the scenes because in the current COVID landscape it would all seem rather petty.
Anyway, back a Tri Nations, SA back to working out their domestic comp and next years plans.
Rebels3
Jim Lenehan (48)
Not to sound ignorant, but how did Japan betray SA?
I’m not informed of the background of this, would be interested to hear what happened here. I have never been aware of any SA alliance with Jap.
Dismal Pillock
Michael Lynagh (62)
Sully, your avatar was scaring me so I had to upgrade it;
There, all better now.
Sully, your avatar was scaring me so I had to upgrade it;
There, all better now.
Can't get 'Greg! The stop sign!' out of my head!
molman
Jim Lenehan (48)
Sully, your avatar was scaring me so I had to upgrade it;
There, all better now.
I was thinking they looked more pink power ranger. I prefer my TISM with spikes.
Ulrich
Nev Cottrell (35)
Rebels3
Jim Lenehan (48)
Sly if they guaranteed commitment, I have no issue with them been bought out if they didn’t.
Adam84
Rod McCall (65)
I don’t think there was any commitment from Japan to vote for South Africa, and it’s not like Japan were even the deciding vote. Even Africa didn’t vote for South Africa, that is surely the more concerning issue.