Rugby 7s general chat

[Strewthcobber]

Is that a reflection of the calibre of the current players or a reflection on the lack of publicity 7s gets in Australia

Has any 7s player ever had any recognition in this country?

 

[Nusadan]

At least 'Sir' Gordon Tietjens got it in his own country!

 

[RugbyReg]

So do we see any merit in a trial/ exhibition match between the incumbent oz 7s team and a wallaby all star team? Of course scheduling will be an issue but it may provide some answers around Rio selection questions as to who we pick.

Obviously it would be players who have expressed an interest but something like:

Speight
JOC (James O'Connor)
Cooper
Phipps
McMahon
Hooper
Kuridrani

Etc etc.

 

[Jagman]

Reg, Replace Cooper with Foley and JOC (James O'Connor) With Folau and that's exactly the team I'd pick. Michael O'Conner said this week that Foley is the best sevens player he ever coached.


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[RugbyReg]

Izzy of course. Foley is off overseas next year. I wouldn't think he would be eligible.

But as for the test team id pick a fit cooper every day of the week over foley.

 

[wamberal]

Cooper could be outstanding in Sevens. In attack, that is, not so sure about defence.

 

[waiopehu oldboy]

^^^^^^^ doesn't have an Australian passport & not eligible to apply therefore can't represent you at the Olympics AFAIK. Agree otherwise, though.

 

[qwerty51]

http://www.foxsports.com.au/rugby/w...t-of-super-rugby/story-e6frf55l-1227271139035

ANY Wallabies player looking to play Sevens at the Rio Olympic Games next year will not be able to play Super Rugby in 2016, ARU boss Bill Pulver has indicated.
Backing up the statements of Australia’s Sevens coach Geraint John — who wants players to commit to his squad no later than January 1 — Pulver said it will not be realistic for players to jump in and out of Sevens and XVs rugby in 2016.
That means any player who switches to Sevens for an Olympics tilt would no longer be paid by their Super franchise, but by the ARU’s Sevens program.
“The whole issue of Wallabies playing for Australia at the Olympics, if there are individual players that want to play, each one is going to be a unique discussion and unique negotiation,” Pulver said.
“However, there are some things to consider. The Super Rugby season probably finishes with the grand final on August 2nd, the Olympic Games start [on August 5], so if you play Super Rugby you simply could not jump out of the Super Rugby season and go straight into the Sevens program, you couldn’t do it.

“If I’m a Super Rugby club, I’m not going to take a player who can’t play for me in the final, so practically if a Wallaby is going to choose to make himself available for the Olympics he’s going to have to make the decision right at the front end of the season.
“The reality is early decisions will have to be made … you will have to commit very early.
“A Super Rugby team is not going to have you if you can’t play the final, and the Sevens coach won’t allow you to walk in two weeks before the event.
“I don’t think there will be many players involved, if there are any it will be a very short list.
“At the most I think there might be a few players involved.

"We’d have to find a resolution for them, because if Australian rugby was taking them into the Sevens event, I wouldn’t be expecting the Super Rugby club to keep paying for them.”
Meanwhile, Pulver has revealed that southern hemisphere unions have again lobbied their northern counterparts to play inbound Tests after the Super Rugby season, rather than during a break late in the tournament.\
“One of the things we’re working on is the international match calendar, and from a southern hemisphere perspective we are frustrated that the June inbound series force this big break in Super Rugby,” Pulver said.
“We’d love to change that.
“In an ideal world you’d have a Super Rugby season that starts in February and ends at the end of June, and then you’d roll into your internationals.
“And that would be a much better structure for all of the southern hemisphere.
“That’s an item on the agenda, changing the international match calendar is bloody hard.
“We’ve put a couple of options to them that we think could work, some that are exciting, I don’t want to talk about them just yet.
“But we’ve thrown a couple of options at them that we think are really worth looking at.
“The problem with the June inbounds is that by that stage there are two or three teams already out of the comp, so we get to that break, and them come back for two or three games, their fans are gone.
“So it’s a brutal impact on their season. You’d rather play a continuous Super Rugby season, and then your internationals, and there’s some really interesting concepts in how you could structure the international series.
“You could argue the June series is fun, but how meaningful is it?
“If you’re thinking about those series as an asset in world rugby you could probably do more, do better with a better plan.”
The idea has been floated previously by southern unions but rejected because playing in-bounds in late June or July would disrupt the lucrative northern club competitions like Top 14 in France and Aviva Premiership in England.

 

[p.Tah]

^^^^^^^ doesn't have an Australian passport & not eligible to apply therefore can't represent you at the Olympics AFAIK. Agree otherwise, though.

We've naturalised Bulgarian weight lifters in 2 weeks and issued then a passport to win us Gold. Nothing is impossible for our Olympic team

 

[Hugh Jarse]

How to win gold at Rio?

Start by qualifying first.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-AK (Andrew Kellaway)-xta1/v/t1.0-9/11377272_10153259415740731_8466430591276123215_n.jpg?oh=3be3ea9a17cf968a0bd8dbd926ccaca6&oe=560A9353&__gda__=1442466846_e3416c0530c8e7a1b3fcf6c0e42f3071

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-AK (Andrew Kellaway)-xat1/v/t1.0-9/11078213_10153344145554282_2956953208276944360_n.jpg?oh=733c45110d94a6393a4718a4fabd40c3&oe=55F802FB&__gda__=1442665017_afad223dae5ff4f1a54d8a2c90063999

 

[Quick Hands]

^^^^^^^ doesn't have an Australian passport & not eligible to apply therefore can't represent you at the Olympics AFAIK. Agree otherwise, though.

Recent comment from the ARU suggests that he is eligible. Without revisiting the murky world of Immigration Dept bureaucracy, I'm sure a way will be found to get beyond the citizenship issue.

 

[rugbysmartarse]

We've naturalised Bulgarian weight lifters in 2 weeks and issued then a passport to win us Gold. Nothing is impossible for our Olympic team

point of order: there has only ever been one gold medal winning australian weightlifter, and he was born in sydney. Fast tracking naturalisation may still be possible. carry on

 

[Quick Hands]

On 31 August 2009 the Minister for Immigration and Citizenship announced that the Government proposed to introduce changes to Australia s residency requirements. According to the Minister, these changes will create a smoother path to citizenship for elite athletes and people in specialist professions and enable Australia to benefit from the talents and skills they bring to our country :

The revamped requirements will create a fairer system for people who, due to circumstances beyond their control, are currently ineligible for citizenship. These changes will lead to more gold medals for Australia at sporting events, as well as providing a real win for the national workforce.
The applicant must satisfy the following criteria:

• the applicant seeks to represent Australia at an international event specified in subsection 22C(1)[55]; and
• the applicant needs to be an Australian citizen to do so; and
• there is insufficient time for the applicant to satisfy the general residence requirement; and
• the head of an organisation specified in subsection 22C(2)[56] or a person of senior position states in writing to the Minister that the applicant has a reasonable prospect of being selected to represent Australia at that event; and
• the applicant has been in Australia for at least 180 days during the two year period immediately before making the application;and
• the applicant was in Australia for at least 90 days during the 12 month period immediately before making the application; and
• the applicant was ordinarily resident in Australia during the two year period immediately before making the application; and
• the applicant was a permanent resident for the period of two years immediately before making the application; and
• the applicant was not an unlawful non-citizen during the two year period immediately before the applicant made the application.

http://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Bills_Legislation/bd/bd0910/10bd020​

 

[TOCC]

2016 7's draw announced

2015-16 HSBC World Rugby Sevens Series schedule
Round 1: Dubai: 4-5 December
Round 2: Cape Town: 12-13 December
Round 3: Wellington: 30-31 January
Round 4: Sydney: 6-7 February
Round 5: Las Vegas: 4-6 March
Round 6: Vancouver: 12-13 March
Round 7: Hong Kong: 8-10 April
Round 8: Singapore: 16-17 April
Round 9: Paris: 14-15 May
Round 10: London: 20-22 May

Also HSBC has re-signed for another 4 years and is also taking over the naming rights of the Women's circuit and will be the naming rights sponsor of the individual circuits.

 

[Westie]

Reg, Replace Cooper with Foley and JOC (James O'Connor) With Folau and that's exactly the team I'd pick. Michael O'Conner said this week that Foley is the best sevens player he ever coached.


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O conner never had much to choose from.

 

[Brumby Jack]

Jesse Parahi has signed for the Wests Tigers NRL side for 2016

 

[Hugh Jarse]

Seems like Geraint John is doing a bit of a clean out of the roster.
Quite a few lads have been released and not too many new signings have been announced yet apart from Henry Speight.

I wonder if he may be planning a surprise of two from the young men going to the Youth Commonwealth Games Rugby Sevens. Possibly Henry Hutchison?

I also wonder if there may be some further behind the scenes talks to release some more contracted Super Rugby Players and Wallabies for our Olympics tilt.

 

[qwerty51]

Jesse Parahi has signed for the Wests Tigers NRL side for 2016

That is the shock of the year. One of our better players. Can't imagine he wasn't offered a contract.

 

[TOCC]

Quite a big loss for the sevens team


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[Marcelo]

Jesse Parahi has signed for the Wests Tigers NRL side for 2016