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James Leckie is gonnnnneeeee
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James Leckie is gonnnnneeeee
With Steve Walsh now being "Australian", is it likely he'll qualify to ref an All Blacks game in the coming years? Are the NZRU incredibly pissed off that we've taken their bad apple and given him a job where he'll likely have a lot of influence over the very organisation that shitcanned him?
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Yep now compare it with the ladder our top refs had to go through before they end up at S14 level. I think the one thing that got the refs confused was the change in rules specially with the ELV's. Cant remember that fancy Kiwi ref?, making a toss up in Perth. In SA we had 4 sets of rules in one season. Cant be easy on them but now with that out of the way hopefull it will get better. Cant go down now, only up. :lmao:
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Actually you'd certainly know if it was Lawrence after the true embarrassment of the decade during the Brittish and Irish Lions game. Both games. I don't know what people have against Jonker last I saw of him was the Australia vs England game at twicks and he did pretty good.
I think Kaplan's performance in Ireland will surely have people thinking twice about his appointment as the best in the world. If only Wayne Barnes would migrate to Australia like Steve Walsh did then we'd have a terrific line up.
I think Kaplan's performance in Ireland will surely have people thinking twice about his appointment as the best in the world. If only Wayne Barnes would migrate to Australia like Steve Walsh did then we'd have a terrific line up.
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Trevor Allan (34)
Lyndon Bray was a fantastic referee, fully enjoyed just about every game he referee'd.
I don't really have a problem with Bryce Lawrence either, there's far too much conjecture involving rulings these days and the media of the losing team always go out of their way to make it sound like the referee was completely full of shit. Take the first Lions test for example, I don't know jack shit about front row play, but I'm sure the SA media didn't have too much of an issue with the way it was done.
As for your guys with conspiracy theories about Kaplan, build a bridge for gods sake. The guys at the top select him year on year, therefore they must be happy with his decison making. If any referee was deemed to have an issue with a country (Steve Walsh - UK), then they would be dropped from the top level.
I'm stoked Steve Walsh is back. I thought he was a great referee, but perhaps one with too much of an ego? Glad he's found a way back, the game needs more referee's with his background.
I don't really have a problem with Bryce Lawrence either, there's far too much conjecture involving rulings these days and the media of the losing team always go out of their way to make it sound like the referee was completely full of shit. Take the first Lions test for example, I don't know jack shit about front row play, but I'm sure the SA media didn't have too much of an issue with the way it was done.
As for your guys with conspiracy theories about Kaplan, build a bridge for gods sake. The guys at the top select him year on year, therefore they must be happy with his decison making. If any referee was deemed to have an issue with a country (Steve Walsh - UK), then they would be dropped from the top level.
I'm stoked Steve Walsh is back. I thought he was a great referee, but perhaps one with too much of an ego? Glad he's found a way back, the game needs more referee's with his background.
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MajorlyRagerly said:
Okay a few points, I might sound like a twat here but these are my thoughts.
Lyndon was not a very good referee, his last match he refereed was quite possibly the worst performance of the year. Lyndon witnessed a headbutt at the ruck and he simply penalised it. That in my eyes is a lot worse then Bryce Lawrence's eye gouge recommendation.
Bryce isn't a very good referee, he misses a lot of things and does not have a mental ability say like Kaplan or Dickinson or Rolland would have. To his credit he is a decent scrum referee, one of the better ones in the game.
Kaplan's a decent referee, he makes the odd mistake sometimes they happen to be at crucial moments as well. His Ireland vs Australia performance wasn't his best, but we all know he has a lot more to offer then a lot of the other international referees.
Steve Walsh is a great referee, no arguments there. And you'd think if he performs he along with Barnes, and Rolland would be favourites to referee the RWC final permitting on nationalities.
As for Wayne Barnes, I just don't understand why he isn't getting enough credit. Wayne is probably the best referee in the business at the moment, and you hear how players get all the wrap for when they have a great game, Wayne should probably get a bit more. Its a shame his RWC game in 2007 all of NZ hate him.
I also decided to type in New Zealand's finest referee Bryce Lawrence on youtube. I found this lovely video of him in 2003 and his complete desire to be a top class official.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRpFOUsPAHI
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Trevor Allan (34)
What was wrong with that? The only one he got wrong was the first one, which wasn't dangerous within the laws, but certainly looked it on the first instance. You think Dickinson is great, but should I find a replay of him recommending straight red for Simon Shaw in 2004?
I think you'll find Barnes is actually getting the credit these days, of course my fellow countrymen are going to hold a grudge, but depending on how you look at it, why not?
We'll have to agree to disagree on Lyndon Bray, I always looked forward to matches he referee'd.
I think you'll find Barnes is actually getting the credit these days, of course my fellow countrymen are going to hold a grudge, but depending on how you look at it, why not?
We'll have to agree to disagree on Lyndon Bray, I always looked forward to matches he referee'd.
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