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Refereeing decisions

Rob42

Nicholas Shehadie (39)
What's the go on dragging players into touch who are tackled already? It was rightly penalised on the weekend in the 6N but I swear it's let go so often. It seems like it's just down to the ref's mood.
Do you mean the situation where Scotland were penalised after driving the French player into touch? I thought that was harsh - the ref called "tackle" a split-second before the French player went into touch, I don't think the tacklers could have been expected to stop quickly enough after that call.
 

Dctarget

David Wilson (68)
Do you mean the situation where Scotland were penalised after driving the French player into touch? I thought that was harsh - the ref called "tackle" a split-second before the French player went into touch, I don't think the tacklers could have been expected to stop quickly enough after that call.
Yeah that one, I've seen it called the other way more often than not.
 

Derpus

Phil Waugh (73)
Do you mean the situation where Scotland were penalised after driving the French player into touch? I thought that was harsh - the ref called "tackle" a split-second before the French player went into touch, I don't think the tacklers could have been expected to stop quickly enough after that call.
Northern refs are experts at preventing a game of rugby from breaking out.
 

Viewglazer990

Stan Wickham (3)
Sorry, must have missed this? Who and what did they get canned for?
"The Super Rugby Pacific Foul Play Review Committee (FPRC) has found Motikiai Murray (Fijian Drua) guilty of committing a dangerous tackle in contravention of Law 9.13."

I was watching it live and it didn't look bad, they were both diving, maybe a yellow at best
 

JRugby2

Cyril Towers (30)
"The Super Rugby Pacific Foul Play Review Committee (FPRC) has found Motikiai Murray (Fijian Drua) guilty of committing a dangerous tackle in contravention of Law 9.13."

I was watching it live and it didn't look bad, they were both diving, maybe a yellow at best
Oh right,

Nah that's consistent with pretty much every other head contact suspension we've seen over the last 2-3 years.

World Rugby determines that the entry point is 6 weeks, most of the time mitigated by 50% due to the players good record, and the the optional extra week discount (so 2 weeks total suspension rather than 6) when they do tackle school.

I also don't see it as Goddard diving at all. He was running upright and Murray grabbed him from behind and swung his arm at his head. Honestly - probably one of the worst head contact incidents we've seen in SRP (Super Rugby Pacific) this season.

 

Wilson

John Eales (66)
"The Super Rugby Pacific Foul Play Review Committee (FPRC) has found Motikiai Murray (Fijian Drua) guilty of committing a dangerous tackle in contravention of Law 9.13."

I was watching it live and it didn't look bad, they were both diving, maybe a yellow at best
It was upgraded to a red at the game (might have happened after the final whistle though, given how close it was to the end).
 

Wilson

John Eales (66)
Oh right,

Nah that's consistent with pretty much every other head contact suspension we've seen over the last 2-3 years.

World Rugby determines that the entry point is 6 weeks, most of the time mitigated by 50% due to the players good record, and the the optional extra week discount (so 2 weeks total suspension rather than 6) when they do tackle school.

I also don't see it as Goddard diving at all. He was running upright and Murray grabbed him from behind and swung his arm at his head. Honestly - probably one of the worst head contact incidents we've seen in SRP (Super Rugby Pacific) (Super Rugby Pacific) this season.

I think he was probably pretty lucky to come in at the 6 week entry point to be honest, even though it's become the default.
 

Strewthcobber

David Codey (61)
Would come under "targeting the lower limbs" wouldn't it?
That's specifically dangerous play under a ruck or maul

9.20 Dangerous play in a ruck or maul.....e)A player must not drop their weight onto an opponent or target the lower limbs

If refs/judiciary wanted to they could capture it under the catch-all dangerous tackle law, but I wouldn't hold your breath

9.13 A player must not tackle an opponent early, late or dangerously. Dangerous tackling includes, but is not limited to, tackling or attempting to tackle an opponent above the line of the shoulders even if the tackle starts below the line of the shoulders.
 

Wilson

John Eales (66)
Yeah, it could probably start getting penalised via a directive without an out and out law change (they might clarify the law like they did for jumping into a tackle though), but there doesn't seem to be much appetite for it from on high. A bit surprising really, it started coming up a bit last year and I thought it would've been an easy win from a player safety perspective.
 

waiopehu oldboy

George Smith (75)
Clarification on the situation in 'canes v 'tahs where 'cane made a choke tackle; ref called maul; and 'tah then got a knee to ground.

Caused some consternation on the match thread but I thought it was a pretty standard collapsed maul therefore turnover?
 

Wilson

John Eales (66)
Probably be a bigger push if its ended Jorgo's season you'd think.
Maybe, but I don't know how far that will move the needle with world rugby - there have been a few season enders from hip drop or hip drop adjacent tackles in the last few years already at super or equivalent level. I get the feeling that unless it happens in a big test match they're unlikely to engage with it. There could be more movement locally though, but that really should've happened not long after the NRL made them illegal.
 

Wilson

John Eales (66)
Clarification on the situation in 'canes v 'tahs where 'cane made a choke tackle; ref called maul; and 'tah then got a knee to ground.

Caused some consternation on the match thread but I thought it was a pretty standard collapsed maul therefore turnover?
The one on Grant? I think Grant was arguing he got his knee down before maul was called, but Murphy said it was still hovering. I think any controversy there is just a question of the knee timing. It looked weird live (partially because Grant is very long) but I do think Murphy got it right.
 
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