Refereeing decisions

[Quick Hands]

^^^^^Not quite Lindommer.

The ball is touch in goal if it is touching the corner post and the ground at the same time.

If the ball or a player carrying the ball touches a flag or a flag (corner) post at the intersection of the touch-in-goal lines and the goal lines or at the intersection of the touch-in-goal lines and the dead ball lines without otherwise being in touch or touch-in-goal the ball is not out of play unless it is first grounded against a flag post.

http://laws.worldrugby.org/?law=22.12

The corner posts are no longer considered to be touch-in-goal except when the ball is grounded against the post.

http://www.rugby-stuttgart.de/files/SRC-Download/SRC-IRB_ELV_guide.pdf

 

[swingpass]

by a strict reading of the law its no try, but i suspect that simultaneous grounding at the intersection of try line, post and touch will always be given a try.

 

[Strewthcobber]

by a strict reading of the law its no try, but i suspect that simultaneous grounding at the intersection of try line, post and touch will always be given a try.

I can understand the ref making decisions that way, but it gets really interesting when the TMO does as well.

It's one of the reasons I don't think we will ever have a successful challenge system in rugby. Will the challenge review assessor be able to ignore laws like that?

 

[swingpass]

i think that it should be a try. interestingly if he had grounded the ball beyond the corner post at the intersection of touch in goal line and in goal area, with just a fraction of the ball on the chalk, then it almost certainly woudn't have been awarded.

 

[Pfitzy]

Blade of grass = try.

 

[Braveheart81]

Blade of grass = try.

It's physics.

 

[Scrubber2050]

Blade of grass = try.

OR Blade of grass = no try

 

[Scrubber2050]

It's physics.

No it's not !

 

[Bullrush]

If a player is kicking towards the sideline and the ball hits the sideline the same way it did here, it's considered out so I think it's out. Pretty simple.

 

[Strewthcobber]

5th minute game time - England RC
17:30 minute game time - Arg penalised

Refs had the cards out plenty this weekend. Interesting one in the Eng v Arg match, with one "tackle" getting a red card, and the other just a penalty.

Outcome based descisions

Challenging players in the air - Law 10.4(i)
Play on – Fair challenge with both players in a realistic position to catch the ball. Even if the player(s) land(s) dangerously, play on
Penalty only – Fair challenge with wrong timing - No pulling down
Yellow card – Not a fair challenge, there is no contest and the player is pulled down landing on his back or side
Red card – Not a fair challenge, there is no contest and the player lands on his head, neck or shoulder

 

[Highlander35]

How long do we reckon the Argie Tighthead is out for? 3 months?

 

[Strewthcobber]

How long do we reckon the Argie Tighthead is out for? 3 months?

75th minute game time above.

Yep he's gone for a long time! Will be interesting to see how they handle the suspension given his off season started yesterday. Do trial matches count?

 

[KevinO]

75th minute game time above.

Yep he's gone for a long time! Will be interesting to see how they handle the suspension given his off season started yesterday. Do trial matches count?

First glace, I thought his foot was being held and tripped. Second angle his looking down and knows what his doing. Trial matches don't count as far as I know. His suspension will carry into the Super Rugby season.

 

[KevinO]

5th minute game time - England RC
17:30 minute game time - Arg penalised

Refs had the cards out plenty this weekend. Interesting one in the Eng v Arg match, with one "tackle" getting a red card, and the other just a penalty.

Outcome based descisions

The right decisions, unfortunately for Daly the player came down in a nasty way. Can see it was a accident, in this case I don't think he should receive a suspension as the Red was a big enough penalty. But you never know with World Rugby what will happen.

 

[Lindommer]

How long do we reckon the Argie tighthead is out for? 3 months?

The Pommy prick should cop six months for, i. holding an opponent while on the ground, and, ii. tackling a player while he's not in a ruck/maul/in possession of the ball. THIS is where bringing back rucking's justified.

 

[Twoilms]

You guys seem pretty convinced, looked a fair bit like he was unbalanced?

 

[Strewthcobber]

The right decisions, unfortunately for Daly the player came down in a nasty way. Can see it was a accident, in this case I don't think he should receive a suspension as the Red was a big enough penalty. But you never know with World Rugby what will happen.

Thought the Argentine decision was the much more interesting one. He actually was reckless with his tackle, rather than just dumb like Daly getting himself under the jumper.

Yet because the catcher happened to fall differently, the penalty was much worse

 

[saulityvi]

Dubai 7's Saf-Sco

Saffer tackles the ball carrier and they both go to the ground, the Scot then offloads the ball and the initial tackler then tackles that second ball carrier while he is lying on jos back and gets penalized for "tackling on the ground"(not sure if the ref actually said taht)

Is that an actual law? No tackling while lying down?

 

[RugbyReg]

Yep. Once your on the ground you are out of play. Rugby is a game played on your feet.


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[Strewthcobber]

Dubai 7's Saf-Sco

Saffer tackles the ball carrier and they both go to the ground, the Scot then offloads the ball and the initial tackler then tackles that second ball carrier while he is lying on jos back and gets penalized for "tackling on the ground"(not sure if the ref actually said taht)

Is that an actual law? No tackling while lying down?

15.6 (i) After a tackle, any player on the ground must not tackle an opponent or try to tackle an opponent.