Refereeing decisions
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Dick Tooth (41)
That’s as much direct criticism of a ref I’ve ever heard on that web show. I don’t think Owen’s was very impressed by the standard.
It’s veiled in the joke about us being robbed and the title of the YouTube clip was something like ‘Will the wallabies ever catch a break?’
The standard we’ve had to put up with lately has been dour but I don’t want to be associated with fans who whinge constantly. The bigger picture is we need to take the ref out of games. The best teams get some benefit of the doubt occasionally because they’ve been good for a long time and there’s some degree of confirmation bias in all humans.
Strewthcobber
Nick Farr-Jones (63)
You've got to look at the alternate world where we get a penalty there and JOC (James O'Connor) misses that kick too
Major Tom
Nicholas Shehadie (39)
Is it just me or does Nigel sound slightly Indian?
It's you.
John S
Ken Catchpole (46)
It's curious that WR (World Rugby) (ok it might not be the actual body, but it's on their letterhead) come out in defence of the refs when it suits them (ie Aus v Lions or any other NH team) and chooses to throw them under the bus against SA or NZ.
Not that I want to cast aspersions... it just looks suss. They talked about some of the contentious calls v Lions, and honestly they are more 50/50 than the most recent one. So I'll walk this one back
Not that I want to cast aspersions... it just looks suss. They talked about some of the contentious calls v Lions, and honestly they are more 50/50 than the most recent one. So I'll walk this one back
Strewthcobber
Nick Farr-Jones (63)
I don't like Doleman as a ref, but....
This may not be a popular opinion, but I don't think that's anywhere near as clear cut a penalty/YC and Nige makes out - especially from the refs perspective (who has actually done a pretty amazing job to keep up with Toole here)
I think the ref sees a release here (we can't see his other arm, but neither can the ref). Now I agree any number of laws are broken around release of the tackled player etc, as well as the actions of 22, but refs don't penalise those on plenty of other tackle situations either.
Toole does get a pass away, and he doesn't penalise Australia for holding on etc, it's just play on (ball is subsequently knocked on by a clearing out player)
This may not be a popular opinion, but I don't think that's anywhere near as clear cut a penalty/YC and Nige makes out - especially from the refs perspective (who has actually done a pretty amazing job to keep up with Toole here)
I think the ref sees a release here (we can't see his other arm, but neither can the ref). Now I agree any number of laws are broken around release of the tackled player etc, as well as the actions of 22, but refs don't penalise those on plenty of other tackle situations either.
Toole does get a pass away, and he doesn't penalise Australia for holding on etc, it's just play on (ball is subsequently knocked on by a clearing out player)
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Dick Tooth (41)
To me it’s pretty cynical from 22 regardless of the result and I think it’s pretty murky as to whether that’s a release from 15. Offside gets pinged even when play carries on as normal so why shouldn’t that? It looked extremely ugly which should have been a clue to Doleman.
It’s interesting that WR (World Rugby) would allow content like that out there on their own pages when they shut down other discussion. It’s almost like they want to throw us a bone on a more innocuous incident. Maybe I’m a conspiracist.
It’s interesting that WR (World Rugby) would allow content like that out there on their own pages when they shut down other discussion. It’s almost like they want to throw us a bone on a more innocuous incident. Maybe I’m a conspiracist.
Dan54
David Wilson (68)
Not WR (World Rugby), it's just Owen's podcast isn't it? He doesn't have anything at all to do with WR (World Rugby) these days does he?
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Dick Tooth (41)
It’s WR (World Rugby)’s show. Owen’s is presumably getting coin from them to do it and it’s on their page.
Wilson
Tim Horan (67)
It is quite specifically a World Rugby run show that he does, and has been posted to all their channels:
Major Tom
Nicholas Shehadie (39)
Great point. Well made.
Major Tom
Nicholas Shehadie (39)
I'll give Doleman some slack because he had to keep up with the play. And hard for him to see the actions of 22 because he would have been focusing on where the ball was but pretty obvious penalty for no 'CLEAR' release. I don't reckon that was necessarily a yellow worthy because it seemed desperate not cynical, but they talk about denying opportunity to score and what not. But easily a YC for 22 as that was deliberate and cynical play.
Shouldn't have asked the question then.
Major Tom
Nicholas Shehadie (39)
Thanks. I'll try to remember for next time.