Refereeing decisions

[Strewthcobber]

Does a ref even need an excuse it this situation? If he called it a knock on absolutely no one would question it.

Anyone who read JRugby2 post would question it (and despite my posts, I actually agree with him)!

The consensus on the ref forum was that it should be play on under the laws. I'd imagine there has been discussion a the top level around this and they probably have to follow the laws as well.

 

[Wilson]

What's the specific text of the law that allows a try to be scored against the goal posts? That's the other thing I could see impacting the way this is interpreted, but I can't actually find the provision for it in the laws...

 

[Braveheart81]

What's the specific text of the law that allows a try to be scored against the goal posts? That's the other thing I could see impacting the way this is interpreted, but I can't actually find the provision for it in the laws...

There is none. They removed it in 2020.

 

[Wilson]

There is none. They removed it in 2020.

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. That change probably does make it play on in this hypothetical.

 

[Sully]

So what the regs are saying is that a player can throw the ball at the posts and as long as he hits it's not a knock on and it's open slather?

 

[Braveheart81]

So what the regs are saying is that a player can throw the ball at the posts and as long as he hits it's not a knock on and it's open slather?

Intentionally throwing or passing the ball forward is a penalty so you can't do that (law 11.7).

 

[JRugby2]

Anyone who read JRugby2 post would question it (and despite my posts, I actually agree with him)!

The consensus on the ref forum was that it should be play on under the laws. I'd imagine there has been discussion a the top level around this and they probably have to follow the laws as well.

This is the type of situation where if this happened in a televised professional game, and the referee got it right (try awarded) - the law would be clarified within 6 months.

At the amateur level - I rather enjoy having air in my tyres when I leave grounds, so I'm calling a knock on.

 

[Braveheart81]

This is the type of situation where if this happened in a televised professional game

It's such an unlikely hypothetical situation (which I also enjoy analyzing).

How is it likely to happen? A player pick and driving close to the posts somehow picks up the ball, spills it forward into the post, manages to regather it without another hand touching the ball and falls over the try line.

Almost impossible to happen from a pass because how are you ever going to receive a pass that close to the post?

 

[JRugby2]

It's such an unlikely hypothetical situation (which I also enjoy analyzing).

How is it likely to happen? A player pick and driving close to the posts somehow picks up the ball, spills it forward into the post, manages to regather it without another hand touching the ball and falls over the try line.

Almost impossible to happen from a pass because how are you ever going to receive a pass that close to the post?

9 to ball runner passing across the face of an upright. Ball runner angling body towards the 9 to received the pass and it bounces of their arm/ chest/ whatever and they regather.

Not likely but that's how I'd see it happening.

 

[Strewthcobber]

71:29 in Crusaders v Hurricanes for an example of the new protect the halfback law in action

 

[Dan54]

71:29 in Crusaders v Hurricanes for an example of the new protect the halfback law in action

Also not sure what time , but in the Tahs/Clan match, we got an example of the new pillars rule around ruck for team in possession, Clan prop penalised for being in pillar position and stopping Tahs player from getting at halfback. I like this change, not the other one as I think you should be able to get at halfbacks!

 

[John S]

Also not sure what time , but in the Tahs/Clan match, we got an example of the new pillars rule around ruck for team in possession, Clan prop penalised for being in pillar position and stopping Tahs player from getting at halfback. I like this change, not the other one as I think you should be able to get at halfbacks!

I like the idea of being able to get at a half back when they have the ball, not when they're in a vulnerable position getting the ball.