Reds v Brumbies - Super Rugby Round 7 2012
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John Solomon (38)
Made my morning.Maybe Ayoub and Walsh got their drink bottles mixed up...?
Godfrey
Phil Hardcastle (33)
Yeah, always a lot of good cheap laughs to be had when mocking troubled alcoholics!
I think the Brumbies who acknowledge the try as a 50/50 call are spot on - the only useable angle was the front and looked simultaneous to me. Does anyone know what is meant to happen in that situation?
I don't like how the article says that if the try had not been given the scores would have been level at full-time. Not only is it obviously not necessarily the case, but they could easily have declared that the Brumbies would have been able to outscore the Reds otherwise due to momentum not swinging in the Reds favour. Regardless, if a contentious call in the first half causes you to lose a game you didn't necessarily deserve to win it in the first place.
I think the Brumbies who acknowledge the try as a 50/50 call are spot on - the only useable angle was the front and looked simultaneous to me. Does anyone know what is meant to happen in that situation?
I don't like how the article says that if the try had not been given the scores would have been level at full-time. Not only is it obviously not necessarily the case, but they could easily have declared that the Brumbies would have been able to outscore the Reds otherwise due to momentum not swinging in the Reds favour. Regardless, if a contentious call in the first half causes you to lose a game you didn't necessarily deserve to win it in the first place.
Schadenfreude
John Solomon (38)
I wonder why, if they have proof, they supplied a photo of no elbow out and no ball down?
Schadenfreude
John Solomon (38)
hahahhah. I'm sure the courier mail has already used this as an example of how rugby league is superior, and this relates to the new season of a cooking program where you invite wankers to your house to let them moan about everything.
Bruce Ross
Ken Catchpole (46)
Provincial journalism at its finest. You start with a headline question:
Then you supply the answer, which would have been anticipated by all regular readers of the Canberra Times:
Now to dash off a quick 700 words and it's off to the pub. Piece of piss really. Lead off with a definitive statement which will convey the impression I'm actually onto something. Most of the casual readers will accept it as gospel on the grounds that otherwise the Times wouldn't print it. Christ, they're gullible:
I just hope the subeditor doesn't ask to see the proof, but being Easter Saturday he's probably down the pub already. Now to try to fill it out. I'm getting thirsty:
This is Journalism 101. It being Easter Saturday he's probably down the pub. But not to worry. When they don't ring back half the mugs will think they're dodging our calls. Now to get some irate comments from the Brumbies. No good ringing Jake. He'll probably tell me to "Fuck off" again. So we go the old ring around to his offsiders hoping that someone will call for Ayoub to be strung up. But they're all bloody tight lipped, probably too scared of Jake to buy into it. As usual I'm going to have to wing it:
There's no way anyone can check on what they say in private. Now to put the icing on the cake. We'll make our local boys look noble; refusing to strike out even in the face of irrefutable evidence of treachery:
Shit, still 400 words to go and I haven't got any direct quotes. "Hey, Nigel. What's the name of our little bloke who tackled the big Queensland forward in the corner?" "Yeah, Nic White, that's him, thanks mate." I'll give him a ring. Young players never knock back a chance to get their names in the paper:
I think he's a bit dumb that kid. No matter how many times I tried to steer him he wouldn't take the lead. Still he's been good for 130 words and most of our readers don't get down this far. Now a couple of hundred more words of padding and it's me for the boozer.
AngrySeahorse
Peter Sullivan (51)
Does anyone have a link to the TMO rules?
Lions v Cheetahs they went up to the TMO, Mark Lawrence was heard saying over mic watching the replay on the big screen that if the player was in touch simultaneously when they put the football down for a try then it is no try. That's what happened and no try was given. I'd like to know because I thought at best Higgers was a simultaneous situation also. Consistency as per usual seems to be an issue.
Lions v Cheetahs they went up to the TMO, Mark Lawrence was heard saying over mic watching the replay on the big screen that if the player was in touch simultaneously when they put the football down for a try then it is no try. That's what happened and no try was given. I'd like to know because I thought at best Higgers was a simultaneous situation also. Consistency as per usual seems to be an issue.
Lets face it there was millimetres and milliseconds in it. I wouldn't of been upset if it wasn't given. But does it really matter if the Ref was wrong or right? It won't change the score. And I think we put far to much pressure on people in this situation.
Yes I know it's their job. George Ayoub is a very experienced ref but everyone will get something wrong eventually. Higgers one was a try the one in the Lions - Cheetahs game wasn't end of story.
Of course I reserve the right to minutely dissect marginal calls against the Reds. But seriously unless it's a massive stuff up I think we should let it go.
Yes I know it's their job. George Ayoub is a very experienced ref but everyone will get something wrong eventually. Higgers one was a try the one in the Lions - Cheetahs game wasn't end of story.
Of course I reserve the right to minutely dissect marginal calls against the Reds.
But seriously unless it's a massive stuff up I think we should let it go.
RedsHappy
Tony Shaw (54)
The one dimension not mentioned here is that undoubtedly, up there in his viewing suite, the TMO will have screens of the highest resolutions, and probably other technologies like frame-by-frame, frame freeze and single frame blow-up software to guide his decision-making in very tight assessments.
Posters here seem utterly categoric in their assessments using, I assume, the Fox Sports replays on a home TV. There are far finer, way more detailed and single frame checking tools available than that to examine fine detail from the HD footage. Such tools could make a considerable difference to the accuracy of the declared result.
Posters here seem utterly categoric in their assessments using, I assume, the Fox Sports replays on a home TV. There are far finer, way more detailed and single frame checking tools available than that to examine fine detail from the HD footage. Such tools could make a considerable difference to the accuracy of the declared result.
Sandpit Fan
Nev Cottrell (35)
As others have said, each way call, and it would have been understandable if it hadn't been given.
I would think the TMO made the decision based on what he could see, and because of body positions, there was no footage available looking down the line towards the corner, Nick Whites body was in the way. Because the TMO can't see if Higgers elbow was out, even though he may "think" it is based on body position etc, without evidence to base the decision on, he went the only way he could.
I would think the TMO made the decision based on what he could see, and because of body positions, there was no footage available looking down the line towards the corner, Nick Whites body was in the way. Because the TMO can't see if Higgers elbow was out, even though he may "think" it is based on body position etc, without evidence to base the decision on, he went the only way he could.
Schadenfreude
John Solomon (38)
You think they are recording in a higher resolution than HD?
Curiouser and curiouser.
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Cave Dweller
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Decisions decisions decisions. It is all part of sport and what makes it so exciting and unpredictable. But in the end Brumbies can only blame themselves for the loss. They were full of mistakes turning the ball over 26 times.
Brumbieman
Dick Tooth (41)
We didn't lose the game there. Turning the ball over 26 times is unforgiveable.
suckerforred
Chilla Wilson (44)
Why? I reckon it word give him an education. We need to start a "Bruce for Journo" campain!!!!
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