Reds 2023

[LeCheese]

when was the last time we secured an established player from elsewhere ??

This is a test for the memory - maybe the Smith twins in 2018?

 

[RugbyReg]

Should probably get a hooker lol

we've got three who all performed well in Super Rugby this year. Seems a good amount

 

[DELETE ACCOUNT]

the one thing the Reds do (mostly) in recruiting is make sure the player has some connection to Qld.

Taniela had a brother that lives in Brisbane
JOC (James O'Connor), Paisami were from Qld junior pathways
Lynagh has family links

All the rest have links via schools or born and bred (I think)

The ones I don't know are Daugunu and Vunavalu other than they liked the place compared to where they were.

 

[Wallaby Man]

the one thing the Reds do (mostly) in recruiting is make sure the player has some connection to Qld.

Taniela had a brother that lives in Brisbane
JOC (James O'Connor) (James O'Connor), Paisami were from Qld junior pathways
Lynagh has family links

All the rest have links via schools or born and bred (I think)

The ones I don't know are Daugunu and Vunavalu other than they liked the place compared to where they were.

Paisami is not a QLD pathway. He did a lot of his growing up in both Samoa and NZ. Then moved to Victoria where he finished school. Nothing to do with QLD till he was cut from the Rebels for getting into a brawl

 

[PhilClinton]

This is a test for the memory - maybe the Smith twins in 2018?

I guess technically correct, but they were both QLD products and played a couple seasons at GPS before picking up contracts at various professional clubs. They were then recruited to the Reds after existing stints at other franchises.

 

[LeCheese]

I guess technically correct, but they were both QLD products and played a couple seasons at GPS before picking up contracts at various professional clubs. They were then recruited to the Reds after existing stints at other franchises.

Fair point - 2017 signing of George Smith could be the last established player without a prior QLD connection then?

 

[dru]

I don't understand why we would have a problem with recruitment wanting a Q connection in their targets.

 

[LeCheese]

I don't understand why we would have a problem with recruitment wanting a Q connection in their targets.

I don’t have a problem with it, and would say it’s been a large factor in helping cultural change under Thorn. On the flip side, if it’s one of the criterion prospective recruits are judged on (not saying it is), then it wouldn’t be casting a broad enough net to catch talent.

Just an interesting insight into the Reds’ pathways if we have to look back to 2017 and beyond for a big name, non-QLD signing.

 

[dru]

I don’t have a problem with it, and would say it’s been a large factor in helping cultural change under Thorn. On the flip side, if it’s one of the criterion prospective recruits are judged on (not saying it is), then it wouldn’t be casting a broad enough net to catch talent.

Just an interesting insight into the Reds’ pathways if we have to look back to 2017 and beyond for a big name, non-QLD signing.

I don't know about that.

If you want to judge when we last recruited a big name, judge it on when we last recruited a big name. AND then, if the organisation is able to add, that big name is connected to Q, well that is an added benefit, isn't it?

It seems to me our problem isn't really recruiting big names. And it's not really developing big names either. Now retention, that is another thing.

 

[DELETE ACCOUNT]

I don't understand why we would have a problem with recruitment wanting a Q connection in their targets.

neither do I

Fiji Drua have their criteria
Moana Pasifika have their criteria
and so on.
Each business sets its own parameters that it will call it's "Values".

 

[DELETE ACCOUNT]

Fair point - 2017 signing of George Smith could be the last established player without a prior QLD connection then?

wasnt there a Kiwi flanker a few years back?

 

[PhilClinton]

wasnt there a Kiwi flanker a few years back?

Are you thinking of Daniel Braid? He last played for the Reds in 2010.

 

[LeCheese]

wasnt there a Kiwi flanker a few years back?

I think he mostly played 8, but are you thinking of Leroy Houston? Re-signed in 2016, last played in 2017, but I'm going to say he had a prior QLD connection as he first signed for the Reds in 2008. I had a quick trawl through the squad lists over the past few years and I'm pretty confident in my George Smith guess.

 

[The Phoenix]

I guess technically correct, but they were both QLD products and played a couple seasons at GPS before picking up contracts at various professional clubs. They were then recruited to the Reds after existing stints at other franchises.

Did their senior schooling at TGS also.

 

[sunnyboys]

we've all forgotten about our Japanese fullback!

 

[sunnyboys]

a lack of NRC has really muddied the waters on who appears to be maturing towards a Reds contract.

Cordingley has been in his role for quite some time now. cant help thinking a new face in that role might not hurt.

 

[PhilClinton]

we've all forgotten about our Japanese fullback!

How can anyone forget the custom Goromaru membership packs for our Japanese fans!!

 

[LeCheese]

we've all forgotten about our Japanese fullback!

2016 - predates Smith

 

[RugbyReg]

Are you thinking of Daniel Braid? He last played for the Reds in 2010.

Adam Thomson

 

[sunnyboys]

Radike Samu was probably the best non-QLD recruit we ever nabbed. although Beau Robinson was a handy get as well.