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Peter Sullivan (51)
Heard it on "the breakdown" podcast about how Rugby lost its way in Australia
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Mark Loane (55)
Oh yeh I'm not disputing that it would have made things easier.
Was more a general comment that the Brumbies and Tahs seemed to have their houses in order around that time. Harder to breakup a winning formula. The Reds on the other hand were cellar dwellers, an opportunity for more money and a new opportunity would have been more appealing to their players.
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Rod McCall (65)
2022 jersey released and no primary sponsor at this stage, which isn’t great news. Good news if you want a clean jersey though.
Im not sure about the gold trim.
Rugbynutter39
Michael Lynagh (62)
Would have thought reds would be in better position for primary sponsor. How much does primary sponsorship attract?
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Mark Loane (55)
I’ll throw this into the off-season rumour mill, this is all pure speculation on my part so please don’t take it with any seriousness.
A mate saw Thorn and Wayne Bennett having a passing chat at a cafe in Red Hill the other morning. Nothing unusual with that, Thorn lives in the area.
It got me thinking though, Thorn has always been a high achiever across codes. Wouldn’t be a bad spot for him to sit under Wayne at the Dolphins for a few years and then takeover, similar to what Demetriou has done at South’s. He could become the first HC to win Premierships in the NRL and Super Rugby, a trend similar to his playing career.
I honestly don’t think the Wallabies gig is on the horizon for Thorn, he doesn’t have the technical nuance. He came into the Reds setup with a S&C background and that translates to any code. I’m also not opposed to coaches transitioning out of clubs after a period of time, it freshens things up, assuming there is a capable replacement.
A mate saw Thorn and Wayne Bennett having a passing chat at a cafe in Red Hill the other morning. Nothing unusual with that, Thorn lives in the area.
It got me thinking though, Thorn has always been a high achiever across codes. Wouldn’t be a bad spot for him to sit under Wayne at the Dolphins for a few years and then takeover, similar to what Demetriou has done at South’s. He could become the first HC to win Premierships in the NRL and Super Rugby, a trend similar to his playing career.
I honestly don’t think the Wallabies gig is on the horizon for Thorn, he doesn’t have the technical nuance. He came into the Reds setup with a S&C background and that translates to any code. I’m also not opposed to coaches transitioning out of clubs after a period of time, it freshens things up, assuming there is a capable replacement.
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Rod McCall (65)
It’s not so much the demand, but whether the asking price is too high.
it’s hard to know, but I’d say the asking price has gone up a bit with the addition of FTA and the championship last year. Maybe they’re asking for too much.
Also these days you have to consider the ethics of the sponsors you’re attracting, already they have Santos and Rio as major sponsors, some brands may not want to be associated with them.
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Nathan Sharpe (72)
Thorne seems to have done amazing things from an organisational perspective. I can see a more technically nuanced coach sitting under him, with Thorne in a director role.
Losing him at this point would be a huge blow IMO.
Adam84
Rod McCall (65)
maybe but that’s an ambitious 5 year plan as Thorn is signed at the Reds until 2023, I also doubt Bennet will still be coaching in 2025 and don't think they would look to throw someone like Thorn into the hot seat of a new club after only one season back in the game.
Could just be related to this coaching clinic
rugbynews.net.au
Rennie, Thorn & Bennett to feature at grassroots Youth Rugby Coaches Forum - Rugby News
Wallabies coach Dave Rennie, Reds coach Brad Thorn and league legend Wayne Bennett will headline a Youth Rugby Coaching Forum open to all Australian grassroots...
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Mark Loane (55)
Yes true the timing is probably too tight. I assume Bennett will have someone under him from 2023 who is a clear favourite to take the reigns once he retires/moves to coaching director role.
I definitely don't want to lose him at the Reds, but at the same time, I think he's instilled a strong culture at the club and through the current ranks that would go beyond his tenure with the club. He's about building work ethic and those values stick with players long term.
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David Wilson (68)
Could just be related to this coaching clinic
Rennie, Thorn & Bennett to feature at grassroots Youth Rugby Coaches Forum - Rugby News
Wallabies coach Dave Rennie, Reds coach Brad Thorn and league legend Wayne Bennett will headline a Youth Rugby Coaching Forum open to all Australian grassroots...
Beat me to it. Let's drop the conspiracy theories. All the best for the Dolphins btw, might even have me taking a passing interest in mungo when they start.
But honestly Thorn and Bennet have a long history and if they are chatting about coaching I don't see that as anything other than a good thing.
PhilClinton
Mark Loane (55)
No conspiracy theories here - I literally prefaced my post by saying it was pure speculation on my behalf and take it with a grain of salt.
Thought it was an interesting talking point to keep people chatting during the off-season seeing as we are three months away from playing any rugby. Apologies I'll reign it in from now on.
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Desmond Connor (43)
As long as Thorn’s not leaving. Pure speculation one would hope.
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Michael Lynagh (62)
Nothing wrong with a bit of speculation…alas you say not much else to talk about now…
I would not discount thorne considering coaching league in the future though. As would be another feather in his bow to be both dual intentional and dual professional coach in union and league and I imagine would be another challenge that might be attractive to him. Personally hope he is not interested in coaching league but as others pointed out other challenges like wallabies coach unlikely to be options for him.
I would be surprised though if he left union too early though.
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Desmond Connor (43)
Is there one or two trial games coming up? Can anyone come along?
The stock at lock and backrow is solid. Ryan Smith consistently got better as last season progressed. LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto) lost his mojo for awhile and apparently training up a storm. Blyth was pushed to the side and wondering if that was more of an attitude rehabilitation. The race will be on between Wright, Wilson, McReight, Scott-Young, and Uru. I think Wilson will come out with all guns blazing to prove himself this season.
The stock at lock and backrow is solid. Ryan Smith consistently got better as last season progressed. LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto) lost his mojo for awhile and apparently training up a storm. Blyth was pushed to the side and wondering if that was more of an attitude rehabilitation. The race will be on between Wright, Wilson, McReight, Scott-Young, and Uru. I think Wilson will come out with all guns blazing to prove himself this season.
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Bob Davidson (42)
Yes back row very strong , can see ASY (Angus Scott-Young) and Uru being used as cover for lock.
Keen to see how Wilson and McReight respond to Rennie’s work ons , likewise Uru being told by Thorn to work on his physicality.
Assuming Wright is still the captain he has to start at 6 or 7 . If he starts at 6 , will most likely see ASY (Angus Scott-Young) and Uru to the bench , one will cover lock. If Wright starts at 7 , ASY (Angus Scott-Young) probably gets the 6 jersey , but moves to lock when McReight comes on.
Then again , could also see Wilson getting a crack at 6 meaning another reshuffle with ASY (Angus Scott-Young)/Uru at #8 and Wright/McReight at 7.
Great competition and flexibility within those spots .
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Desmond Connor (43)
The naming of Captain will be telltale. Wright didn’t have a standout season at club level which is what he needed. ASY (Angus Scott-Young) seemed to have picked up in NZ from the games I watched. I can see a few shuffles early on.
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Mark Loane (55)
I think there is a high probability of co-captains being named in JOC (James O'Connor) and Wright