KOB1987
John Eales (66)
he is injured i think?
Reds 2020
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he is injured i think?
Dark Shark
Alex Ross (28)
So you would think that new contract would be on same terms as current including the COVID pay reduction. If so, the reason given on Monday not to commence training with team would be a sham. Did the other two players get sucked into this by their agent because they were expendable?
I also think that since Monday, the manager must have found little overseas interest if recommending Brumbies.
RedsHappy
Tony Shaw (54)
Perhaps Rodda's sole motivation was/is to exit the Reds.
It's notable that so many posters here instantly blame these 3 'rebels' and Picone (whom btw had others of his player clients sign up to the RUPA cuts) vs at least considering the possibility that the QRU's long, utterly well-demonstrated history of serious managerial incompetence may have had something to do with it, or the way it has been handled.
I mean, since the appointment of Link and his then coaching group in 2009-10, a decade+ ago, what precisely has the QRU done well that has led to measurably good results against any sensible KPI by which a State RU should be judged? The QRU's actual track record in all player and team-related matters should give rise to the highest degree of scepticism regarding any 'drama' associated with their conduct.
Dan54
David Wilson (68)
I not sure what the problem is, but didn't Rodda just resign recently, after being under Thorn and the current QRU for a few years? Looks like not making captain is sitting high on his reasons, or has Thorn turned into a bad coach this year?
Same with Lucas, something tells me these 2 have decided that they are either not as good as they thought they were in terms of captaincy in one case and player in another and so they will go where things are to their liking, and Hoskings I don't know, just seems to be some not great advice being chucked around!
Same with Lucas, something tells me these 2 have decided that they are either not as good as they thought they were in terms of captaincy in one case and player in another and so they will go where things are to their liking, and Hoskings I don't know, just seems to be some not great advice being chucked around!
Because relationships don't change over time. They were happy to sign last year, things have changed now and they no longer want to be there.
Garry Owens
Alan Cameron (40)
Not sure what the go is with Hockings especially after he came through with Thorn in U20 and QLD Country etc
But I do believe it is a feeling of disrespect or feeling undervalued in Rodda's case with what happened and what went down, and in Lucas's case, I reckon the writing was already on the wall in how / where he would be used and especially with how trigger happy the Reds have been with their play makers over the last few years under Thorn. If you take a view over a 1 to 2 season window the 10/12 intention is Gordon / O'Connor . Interesting to note that Gordon was represented by Picone and perhaps still is. Given his more proto-typical size ( a rangy Steve Larkham type ) his defense and most importantly his kicking game which has been a major impediment to the Reds being able to command field position and get them in position to win well over the last couple of seasons......I don't see where there was any real room for him in the midfield by next season anyway. Hegarty is a vet tie over , and ultimately , 15 needs to be addressed with some stop gap options there and in back up in the midfield (Hegarty as I just said and also Stewart)
Sure they signed him out to 2023 just 6 months ago and of course he was in their plans but were their plans and his / his agent's plans in the same accord ? Sorry ...I could never see him beyond being an occasional short term / rotational 15 and most likely a bench utility
I'm surprised no one has yet referenced the likely forward position with Gordon
But I do believe it is a feeling of disrespect or feeling undervalued in Rodda's case with what happened and what went down, and in Lucas's case, I reckon the writing was already on the wall in how / where he would be used and especially with how trigger happy the Reds have been with their play makers over the last few years under Thorn. If you take a view over a 1 to 2 season window the 10/12 intention is Gordon / O'Connor . Interesting to note that Gordon was represented by Picone and perhaps still is. Given his more proto-typical size ( a rangy Steve Larkham type ) his defense and most importantly his kicking game which has been a major impediment to the Reds being able to command field position and get them in position to win well over the last couple of seasons......I don't see where there was any real room for him in the midfield by next season anyway. Hegarty is a vet tie over , and ultimately , 15 needs to be addressed with some stop gap options there and in back up in the midfield (Hegarty as I just said and also Stewart)
Sure they signed him out to 2023 just 6 months ago and of course he was in their plans but were their plans and his / his agent's plans in the same accord ? Sorry ...I could never see him beyond being an occasional short term / rotational 15 and most likely a bench utility
I'm surprised no one has yet referenced the likely forward position with Gordon
Garry Owens
Alan Cameron (40)
^Maybe he is or maybe he isn't.
Sometimes the biggest tests and the ultimate challenger or teacher is silence.....
Sometimes the biggest tests and the ultimate challenger or teacher is silence.....
Derpus
Nathan Sharpe (72)
Profound
upthereds#!
Peter Johnson (47)
They also told Quade he, in their eyes, was the no.5 Flyhalf at their disposal. So 2 guys in the team they considered better, and 2 guys out in club land.
Garry Owens
Alan Cameron (40)
So would it not be outrageous then to present the idea that there is a certain "type" of person that they are looking for and to the extent your character is not in accord with the "type" then you are outside the "Jack Burns Circle of Trust"
When the Slipper thing went down I remember reading in an article that :
- In the early 2000's he became close / affiliated with a player on the Broncos who was a born again and had a profound influence on him
- There was also tension in his own family re : his hard line / not open for negotiation position with an in law who had some issues.
When the Slipper thing went down I remember reading in an article that :
- In the early 2000's he became close / affiliated with a player on the Broncos who was a born again and had a profound influence on him
- There was also tension in his own family re : his hard line / not open for negotiation position with an in law who had some issues.
Dan54
David Wilson (68)
Funny, after reading this and commenting earlier was back reading news on rugby and 2 things sprung out at me that I wonder if maybe these fellas may think on.
For Rodda. https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby...is-experience-in-when-it-comes-time-to-battle,
and for the others if they were thinking on the money. https://www.planetrugby.com/worlds-best-pieter-steph-du-toit-commits-to-the-stormers/
See how real quality rugby players react. I think Du Toit is certainly one of the best players in the world at moment, and I think Whitelock not far off. Perhaps a lesson in the learning?
For Rodda. https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby...is-experience-in-when-it-comes-time-to-battle,
and for the others if they were thinking on the money. https://www.planetrugby.com/worlds-best-pieter-steph-du-toit-commits-to-the-stormers/
See how real quality rugby players react. I think Du Toit is certainly one of the best players in the world at moment, and I think Whitelock not far off. Perhaps a lesson in the learning?
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Desmond Connor (43)
Spot on. Quality rugby players have the skill but it is more so how they manage their thought process and deliver their actions. That’s the difference between mediocre and great.
Hockings was starting lock in the last game - a 40 point win over the Bulls.
In form he's in the 15.
dru
David Wilson (68)
We need a new apprentice 10 in a hurry. Anyone come to mind?
Jimmy_Crouch
Peter Johnson (47)
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Desmond Connor (43)
More of a ‘no shit’ type of coach.