Reds 2017

[thebreakdown]

What's happen with Jayden Ngamanu?, was very disappointed he never got run in the u20s. He could have stayed in Australia and may have been given a shot for Reds. I think he deserves He ran well in the Oceania comp, I thought he was the only back moving forward at pace. What's wrong with the 20s coaching?? He was exciting! Give the young fella a shot! I think he needs game time around the right players.


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[upthereds#!]

If he couldn't get a run with the 20s, how should he be able to get a run in Super Rugby? The idea should be only the BEST of the 20s get the chance to progress to Super Rugby

 

[TOCC]

I had a few issues with some of the selections for that U20s team, Simon Kenewell didn't deserve his spot and Tupou, whilst a great young player, was the youngest player(17) in the tournament and his play often reflected that. I think Jayden was ahead of both, but didn't get a chance.

 

[I like to watch]

^^^^Why do you rate Henry ahead of Kennewell?

 

[thebreakdown]

Upthereds#!, mate I know talent when I see it! He beats his first man and he's got speed with it! I've only seen that style in NZ. I spose you wouldn't know that so I won't bother you mate. But that's only my opinion like I said!


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[No4918]

If he couldn't get a run with the 20s, how should he be able to get a run in Super Rugby? The idea should be only the BEST of the 20s get the chance to progress to Super Rugby

Do you mean only the best u20's should get a shot while still that age?

 

[upthereds#!]

Do you mean only the best u20's should get a shot while still that age?

As a part of the development pathway, I would have thought only the best would get a chance at that age, and then the a lucky few will get offered contracts after u20s, if not during. Some should get a chance, some shouldn't, some have, some will in time, some won't. Not every Aus u20 player becomes a professional, then again some get professional gigs when others miss out only to be a fish that got away.

 

[upthereds#!]

Upthereds#!, mate I know talent when I see it! He beats his first man and he's got speed with it! I've only seen that style in NZ. I spose you wouldn't know that so I won't bother you mate. But that's only my opinion like I said!


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I havn't seen him really play, just saying that if the ARU High performance people, the Reds coaches and the U20 coaches saw what you saw, then we would have seen him. ......Or at least that's what you would hope!

 

[upthereds#!]

I would love to know what Henry and Kennewell were regularly offering above J and beyond Jayden (considering neither really did a great deal for me during the comp) for him to not to really get a chance.

 

[thebreakdown]

I can't disrespect player names mate, that's not my style. IMO, Jayden Ngamanu never even got a run! The coaches must really hate the style he offers the game but they took him anyway?? The young man IMO is a solid player, I certainly hope he stays positive.


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[TOCC]

^^^^Why do you rate Henry ahead of Kennewell?

Accuracy, error rate, footwork, defence..

Kennewell may be a good player, but his U20s form was well below the required standard, far too many errors and the reason he was pulled early in a couple of games. Not to say Henry had a great tournament, he didn't, but Kennewell was definetly short of the standard required.

 

[Ruggo]

Nothing against DP but Hunt needs to finish the season at 12. DP to 15 for mine.

 

[Teh Other Dave]

Yeah, move Pillock to 15, keep Hunt at 12

 

[Sauron]

Nothing against DP but Hunt needs to finish the season at 12. DP to 15 for mine.

Yeah, this is an interesting conundrum for us. I'd actually rather DP to 10 and Quade to 15, tbh, but that might be too much of a reshuffle.

 

[Bulldog]

Culturally there seems to be something slightly amiss at the Reds, they have the senior players, they have the young guns, it's just not working, I like to think it's just a hangover from the RG era and not a reflection of the current organisation :/

Is the 2017 back to the future Reds really RG's fault?

Who put the prematurely heralded 2017 squad together? Stiles, Cordingley & Herbert. Dan Herbert left the QRU earlier this year maybe the other 2 should follow?

 

[Ruggo]

Reds recruitment has been lazy. they have looked to assemble experienced players but done nothing to build a team.

I would love to see Stiles get punted. I don't care if we don't get someone world class but I want the person to be selected after a rigid recruitment process where they have articulated their plans for the team in a comprehensive manner which has been well scrutinized by a knowledgeable and impartial selection panel.

 

[Beer Baron]

Reds recruitment has been lazy. they have looked to assemble experienced players but done nothing to build a team.

I would love to see Stiles get punted. I don't care if we don't get someone world class but I want the person to be selected after a rigid recruitment process where they have articulated their plans for the team in a comprehensive manner which has been well scrutinized by a knowledgeable and impartial selection panel.

Do they have rookie assistant s forced upon them?or get to choose?. That's one of the issue, we get a rookie head coach were only getting assistants


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[Ruggo]

That's the next step. The new coach needs the autonomy to implement the plan that got him the job. Assistants of choice should be part of their presentation to the selection panel though.

 

[Braveheart81]

That's the next step. The new coach needs the autonomy to implement the plan that got him the job. Assistants of choice should be part of their presentation to the selection panel though.

How do you judge that though?

Anyone interviewing for a head coaching role has to have their assistants locked in and ready to take on that role should the person be successful?

I don't think that is a likely outcome at all.

 

[Scrubber2050]

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