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Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
If you want a mentor hired gun, then Graeme Henry is your man. He did the deed for Los Pumas and Surgeon Kirwan.
Apparently he has the 2011 RWC Winning Coaches medal in his top drawer. That is credibility, and it is recent.

Knuckles is so yesterdays news that you can't even find Fish and Chip shops using it to wrap their product in.
 

Ash

Michael Lynagh (62)
There's surely no way they could hold onto Graham if the Reds take the spoon, which they are surely now the favourites to do as the Force just beat the Tahs. So in saying that, Graham is certainly staying.

If the Force beat us, I can't see a way that we don't end up with the spoon.
 

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Michael Lynagh (62)
And Knuckles?

Gees, I was a fan of him coaching the Reds in the 90s, but by the 2000s a few things had gotten to me:
- his mind games with the players I thought tended to go a little far post professionalism
- his love of 10 man rugby, almost criminal with the Reds backline in the late 90s to early 2000s before McBain took over in 2001 (and then was axed for not utilising his backline fully, well that was one of the excuses anyway)

In a way, it was really unfortunate that Knuckles got the Wallabies in 2006. He deserved it a decade or so earlier, but was stymied due to politics. When Knuckles finally got the Wallabies gig, I didn't think he really deserved it then.

I reckon Knuckles is a bit of a dinosaur now who's been out of the game too long. Can't see the good this will bring, either way.
 

Rugger Mate

Allen Oxlade (6)
This sounds very strange, especially if the rumours of another player the Rebels have signed turn out to be correct.
Tocc You couldn't blame Gill for wanting out of this setup. And your earlier forecast of the Reds losing one of there better performers I'm sure is true. Will thrive at the rebels with a decent coaching stucture in place, compared to the farce the Reds have going at the moment.
 

liquor box

Peter Sullivan (51)
I love Gill like a brother and I am sad to say I would tell him to leave.

He wont be captain, He wont be in a winning team, he wont play for the wallabies, he wont get credit by Australian fans for his skill due to not being a wallaby, he is a forward so 80% of Aussies dont think he is important as a back, he wont get paid as much as he would overseas.

I think he should leave and i will be a sad day but I want the best for him.

That being said, the QRU board should hang their heads in shame at what they have done in the last few years, we have gone from a possible dynasty of super rugby titles to a probable dynasty of wooden spoons.

My Reds membership is in my 14 month old daughters name, if it was in mine I would cancel it.
 

RedsHappy

Tony Shaw (54)
I love Gill like a brother and I am sad to say I would tell him to leave.

He wont be captain, He wont be in a winning team, he wont play for the wallabies, he wont get credit by Australian fans for his skill due to not being a wallaby, he is a forward so 80% of Aussies dont think he is important as a back, he wont get paid as much as he would overseas.


I think he should leave and i will be a sad day but I want the best for him.

That being said, the QRU board should hang their heads in shame at what they have done in the last few years, we have gone from a possible dynasty of super rugby titles to a probable dynasty of wooden spoons.

My Reds membership is in my 14 month old daughters name, if it was in mine I would cancel it.

"Probable Dynasty of the Wooden Spoons", now that is wonderful, though black, it's still gold.
 

formerflanker

Ken Catchpole (46)
Mentoring is for new coaches, or for those who have just been promoted to higher levels. Thus, a mentor for Graham is code for "we made a mistake in appointing him and hope this slight will make him resign."
 

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Peter Fenwicke (45)
CFS, Browning & now Gill all rumoured to be leaving and I still haven't spoken about Friday night.

Being a Reds fan sucks. :(
 

Inside Shoulder

Nathan Sharpe (72)
Mentoring is for new coaches, or for those who have just been promoted to higher levels. Thus, a mentor for Graham is code for "we made a mistake in appointing him and hope this slight will make him resign."

Must be right - but what's the back up plan? Knuckles? Last time he coached there was no lifting in the lineouts.
so surely he isnt there for technical input.
Much as I hate to quote him, Marto suggested he was there for man management: I had always assumed that was thought to be Graham's strength.
The situation up thee is disastrous for Australian rugby.
 

gel

Ken Catchpole (46)
Whoever thought that Richard Graham's strength was man management was greatly mistaken.

I have never witnessed a collection of incredibly poor management decisions concentrated around one individual as I have seen with RG.

There are plenty of people that I have seen be great managers, oodles and oodles that are just ok (they have no real impact either way on the performance of the team), but a special few can somehow wrangle the team completely ineffective irrespective of who is in the team.

RG appears to be that special kind of manager - one who has been greatly elevated above his ceiling and in the realms now of the unconsciously incompetent.

That's the way it looks from the outside, anyway.
 

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Andrew Slack (58)
Didn't he get mentored by Link for his first two years here anyway? How long do you mentor someone before you decide he just isn't going to cut it? If he needs permanent mentoring then how can you justify paying him a head coach salary?
 

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
The Peter Principle is a concept in management theory in which the selection of a candidate for a position is based on the candidate's performance in their current role, rather than on abilities relevant to the intended role. Thus, employees only stop being promoted once they can no longer perform effectively, and "managers rise to the level of their incompetence."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Principle
 
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