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TheBigDog
Nev Cottrell (35)
Very well said. At the end of the day, if Lucas was asking for some decent $$$ from the Reds and it would have prevented them from making any JOC (James O'Connor)/Khunt deals or came at the expense of younger talent who could one day be our first choice (McIntyre, Frisby, Gale etc) then unfortunately he'd have to be told to look elsewhere.
@ Strewthcobber - I guess the requirements to play in the UK are higher due to that international representation requirement.
It must be why so many more players go to France and Italy.
I wonder if the rules changed in the UK or if they're just willing to make allowances. Dean Mumm hadn't played for the Wallabies for over a year and half when he went to the UK.
It must be why so many more players go to France and Italy.
I wonder if the rules changed in the UK or if they're just willing to make allowances. Dean Mumm hadn't played for the Wallabies for over a year and half when he went to the UK.
hammertimethere
Trevor Allan (34)
I suppose my point was more that if you were going to hang onto one of Frisby or Lucas. I'd take Lucas hands down
hammertimethere
Trevor Allan (34)
Though it's a tough situation if Frisby is in the 2nd year of a two year deal and Lucas off contract
Scrubber2050
Mark Ella (57)
I would think there would be some very pissed off "senior" players at the Reds if that was the case.
New bloke, LARGELY UNTESTED. Fuck Genia and QC (Quade Cooper) would have a fit, Simmons Slipper Hanson and Gill would be putting their hands out for more.
If that was the case (that K Hunt got a huge payday), then if the Reds did not look after the abovementioned players then the disavantages of signing Hunt would far outweigh the advantages. Players will leave
TheBigDog
Nev Cottrell (35)
hammertime - I've got a bit of bias because Frisby plays GPS whom I support but I believe if the Reds want to look long term you'd have to take Frisby. He's only 22, yes he has brain explosions but he can also break games wide open - example being the first NRC game. Frisby also has some limited utility value as he's been used on a wing for the Reds and has frequently slotted into fullback for GPS when returning for a game or two.
As much as people seem to like Lucas more than Frisby, it doesn't seem like he's been looked at as Genia's backup for quite a while.
I get what you're saying but these four would all be earning more money in total due to ARU contracts. Same with Horwill.
Scrubber2050
Mark Ella (57)
Yeah sorry. I meant if the Reds were paying the reported $700,000 themselves. Reckon those blokes get about 200-250K from the Reds plus a top up. NONE of them would be on anywhere near $700,000 combined ARU and Reds. Reckon Genia and Quade may be on those sorts of $$$$$ ATM (but will both be reduced at next contract time - and they will head OS at that time) The Reds need to be very careful here
I'd take the reported figure with a grain of salt. I'd also figure that it probably includes some 3rd party money as well.
I agree that it's a dangerous thing to do though. I guess there can't be too many 2014 Reds thinking that paying the existing players a lot more money is the path to success though.
I agree that it's a dangerous thing to do though. I guess there can't be too many 2014 Reds thinking that paying the existing players a lot more money is the path to success though.
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Train Without a Station
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Any team at all rolling out 3rd choice players in any position is going to be in trouble mate.
Squad sizes are 32. That allows for 2 players in each position and a 3rd half and hooker. What team has greater centre depth that isn't at the expense of an other position, like wing in the Waratahs case?
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Tony Shaw (54)
I don't disagree with this but the post you were replying to was a suggestion that a particular kid may be good to look at for the wider training squad or one of the NRC teams and your reply was fairly dismissive based on our apparent substantial depth at centre in the squad.
I don't think the depth is that good that we can be so dismissive of potentially promising young centres based on having 3rd stringers in the squad that can cover 12 and 13 is all.
thierry dusautoir
Alan Cameron (40)
If Turner can get to the form he showed in the first game this year against the brumbies he will be starting for the reds easily each week.
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Bowside
Peter Johnson (47)
Ties to the team are what keep 'solid' players in the squad. Countless examples at the reds - Lucas, Faingaas, Holmes etc.
Turner hasn't gone through all that much with the team, his stint at the reds is an audition for a French or Japanese contract. Of Course the Reds get out of it a consummate pro who adds depth and maturity to the squad.
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Train Without a Station
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Yes but one could say the kids that made debuts in 2014 and are in the NRC are probably just as likely to succeed.
Fact of the matter is we can't keep every player, even beyond the 32. There are still financial limitations on the WTS.
So sure, throw up a proposed player. Just let us know who you propose that we cut loose to accommodate him.
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Train Without a Station
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Like the Fainga'as from Canberra with a brother in Melbourne? How strong were there ties to Queensland at the end of the 2009 season?
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Redsfan
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The new contracting protocols will make it much easier to keep a player like Cooper around. He'll be able to gethis ARU/QRU wage, and then head to Japan in the off-season on what would be an enormous contract.
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