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John Thornett (49)
My thoughts exactly, I thought him and Highlanders scrummie Tanaka were the stand-outs in that team.
I'm so happy with this set-up, we have so much talent to call upon this year if injuries occur.
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I'm so happy with this set-up, we have so much talent to call upon this year if injuries occur.
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Ward Prentice (10)
Ed O'Donoghue had a reasonable couple of seasons for Ulster from 2008-2010 and was our first choice No.5 lock at the time. He even got a few Ireland A caps in the 2009 Churchill Cup and played for an Ireland XV against the NZ Maori and Barbarians in 2010.
Come the start of the 2010-11 season we had signed Johann Muller from the Sharks. The writing was on the wall for Mr. Ed and he went to Leinster. I was sad to see him go.
He wasn't a success at Leinster by all accounts and earnt himself the unfortunate moniker Useless Ed. He's been released early from a three year contract there.
Wikipedia says he's 30 now.
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Geoff Shaw (53)
He's handy, wish he came to the Rebels. We still have a hooker slot open.
Doubt he'll play really, Hanson and Fainga'a have the 2 and the 16 locked and it's in Qld's best interest to keep developing Anae.
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I think the foreign rule may only be applicable to the 35 contracted players...
Players outside of that may be recognized differently... Alternatively, given an injury to the top 2 or 3 hookers/locks, I'm sure their would be a dispensation granted.
Players outside of that may be recognized differently... Alternatively, given an injury to the top 2 or 3 hookers/locks, I'm sure their would be a dispensation granted.
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Ted Thorn (20)
I won't matter as the Reds are import free. Harris is dinky di
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Geoff Shaw (53)
They let that ex-Crusaders winger who was playing for the Sunny Coast play for the Reds in 2011 so you'd presume not.
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That man you speak of his Caleb Ralph, one of the best Super Rugby players fullstop.
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The Reds didn't have a 'foreign player' at the time so it wasn't really an issue, Harris was never categorized a foreign player due to his grandmother, the last foreign player signed to a full time contract was Daniel Braid.
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Alex Ross (28)
That might be a bit of an over-statement, but it was definitely a funny pick up. "Gee, we're a bit short on wingers. Anyone around here have five super rugby premierships? Yep? Cool."
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Johnnie Wallace (23)
I'm interested in knowing what's expected of these guys and what remuneration is given.The blog only briefly mentions fitting it around their life. I would assume the older Prem grade regulars such as Rex still need to work 9 - 5.
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Johnnie Wallace (23)
Yep I would put everything on the line, or on hold for a crack. But it's not something you could do indefinetly, maybe for 2 years. This Reds College if it stays around for a while (and needs to until we get squad sizes to 40) will probably have a high turnover rate and a reduced size in the future.
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John Eales (66)
I think the non-contract scenario for Super teams has gone back to the future.
At the Tahs they use to have the academy and some blokes were paid (pro academy I used to call them though they became known as the Super Rugby Training Group) and others weren't (amateur academy). The Reds must have had something similar.
Now we have the EPS which is the equivalent of the old pro academy except there are only five players in it. Before the EPS came into being the numbers fluctuated: at the Tahs in 2011 it was 8 pros and 14 amateurs and in 2010 it was 11/12.
The pro academy guys then were paid for by the ARU as the EPS guys are now. Since there are fewer of them it's a bit more worthwhile. Somebody mentioned on the forum that young Salesi Manu turned down a pro academy spot at the Tahs because he couldn't afford to do so and backed himself to be recognised through club rugby. Yet he accepted an EPS spot at the Force later, in 2012.
Even if that account was not correct for that particular player it rings true as a generality that must have occurred.
I think that limiting the paid uncontracted players to an EPS of five was the right way to go for 2012. Not only would they have been paid about double what the old pro academy guys would have been paid, but also if they were one of only five they were more likely to be called up if there was an injury. So they took a punt for a year, and some for a second year in 2013.
The trick for a Super team was, and is, to find the right five for the EPS.
The Reds College will be the equivalent of the old amateur academy, or whatever the Reds used to call it. Young players are better off in that than they would be in the National Academy with a cast of thousands - OK dozens.
The National Academy for the others is still a good idea but Super Teams should have their own academy players if for nothing else but to assess them better for later EPS or contract spots, day by day.
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At the Tahs they use to have the academy and some blokes were paid (pro academy I used to call them though they became known as the Super Rugby Training Group) and others weren't (amateur academy). The Reds must have had something similar.
Now we have the EPS which is the equivalent of the old pro academy except there are only five players in it. Before the EPS came into being the numbers fluctuated: at the Tahs in 2011 it was 8 pros and 14 amateurs and in 2010 it was 11/12.
The pro academy guys then were paid for by the ARU as the EPS guys are now. Since there are fewer of them it's a bit more worthwhile. Somebody mentioned on the forum that young Salesi Manu turned down a pro academy spot at the Tahs because he couldn't afford to do so and backed himself to be recognised through club rugby. Yet he accepted an EPS spot at the Force later, in 2012.
Even if that account was not correct for that particular player it rings true as a generality that must have occurred.
I think that limiting the paid uncontracted players to an EPS of five was the right way to go for 2012. Not only would they have been paid about double what the old pro academy guys would have been paid, but also if they were one of only five they were more likely to be called up if there was an injury. So they took a punt for a year, and some for a second year in 2013.
The trick for a Super team was, and is, to find the right five for the EPS.
The Reds College will be the equivalent of the old amateur academy, or whatever the Reds used to call it. Young players are better off in that than they would be in the National Academy with a cast of thousands - OK dozens.
The National Academy for the others is still a good idea but Super Teams should have their own academy players if for nothing else but to assess them better for later EPS or contract spots, day by day.
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'The Code' briefly touched on the Ballymore project in Episode 4, sounds like it could be on the cards to start construction in 2013, sounds like its going to be a lot different to the one approved a couple of years back. Anyone know anymore about this?
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