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Rebels 2017

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Billy Sheehan (19)
Highlander35 said:
NZ teams are our best attended games I think too, because of the NZ expat population.

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Over the journey 7 of the 10 best crowds the Rebs have had have been against Kiwi teams
They historically draw far better than every Oz team with the exception of the Tahs
 
oztimmay

oztimmay

Tony Shaw (54)
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Proud Pig said:
A group of the guys I usually go with did not attend Saturday night because they are resigned to the fact that we will be cut and can no longer be bothered with Rugby. None of them are getting Wallaby tickets as this whole process has soured rugby for them.
I can't say I blame them.
I continue to go as I feel that we are not quite dead yet and may well be back for another year or two. However, I truly believe that the ARU are planning to oust both us and the Force by the end of 2020. That is possibly why focus has switched to us over the Force. Axing the Rebels will cost the ARU big either now or in 2020, where as the Force may cost them now but may cost bugger all to axe come 2020.
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Bear in mind, Cox (Imperium sports Management) has a 20-year agreement with the ARU. It will cost the ARU BIG time, either now, or in two years time, if they decide to chop the Rebels. If the Force were to go now, and the ARU decide to chop another team in the next broadcast agreement, it would probably be easier to merge the Brumbies and the Rebels.

And before our friends from chilly Canberra get the pitchforks out, no I'm not advocating a merger better our two great sporting nations.
 
James Pettifer

James Pettifer

Jim Clark (26)
daz said:
Brumbies vs Lions Attendance 12 May, 2017 8,034

Yet the big story is that the Rebels, a team cut adrift, not a chance of finals and in mass confusion, only managed to get approx. 7,000 seats filled.

Circa 1,000 seats difference, this weekend, between the conference leaders and the wooden spoon team.
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Surely that should be a bigger issue. The Brumbies are a winning team in a rugby stronghold and used to have crowds above 20k. If they were bottom of the ladder, would anyone be turning up at all?

The Rebels were drawing 10k crowds earlier in the year but I think people just can't be bothered investing in a team that is likely to be cut.
 
Mr Wobbly

Mr Wobbly

Alan Cameron (40)
daz said:
Brumbies vs Lions Attendance 12 May, 2017 8,034

Yet the big story is that the Rebels, a team cut adrift, not a chance of finals and in mass confusion, only managed to get approx. 7,000 seats filled.

Circa 1,000 seats difference, this weekend, between the conference leaders and the wooden spoon team.
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Someone that was at the Brumbies game mentioned that they thought the crowd number was far less than 7,000.

A few people have noted that the Tahs may be inflating their reported figures considerably as well.

Meanwhile, the Swans are averaging over 33,000 and GWS around 10,600. Of course these figures are impossible because Sydney is a rugby town and AFL will never work there.
 
Mr Wobbly

Mr Wobbly

Alan Cameron (40)
Proud Pig said:
A group of the guys I usually go with did not attend Saturday night because they are resigned to the fact that we will be cut and can no longer be bothered with Rugby. None of them are getting Wallaby tickets as this whole process has soured rugby for them.
I can't say I blame them.
I continue to go as I feel that we are not quite dead yet and may well be back for another year or two. However, I truly believe that the ARU are planning to oust both us and the Force by the end of 2020. That is possibly why focus has switched to us over the Force. Axing the Rebels will cost the ARU big either now or in 2020, where as the Force may cost them now but may cost bugger all to axe come 2020.
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I suspect that many of the great minds behind Australian rugby want to scrap the NRC and go back to three Super teams. National footprint? A Sydney wide footprint is too big for their thinking.

My theory for the shift in media attention is much simpler. I think that the press went as far as they could talking about the Force and it started to get boring. They tried to fire up talk of a Melbourne-Canberra merger and it was shot down pretty quickly. Now the focus has switched to us. There hasn't been any actual news coming out but the commentators need to commentate.
 
oztimmay

oztimmay

Tony Shaw (54)
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lou75

lou75

Ron Walden (29)
oztimmay said:
Bear in mind, Cox (Imperium sports Management) has a 20-year agreement with the ARU. It will cost the ARU BIG time, either now, or in two years time, if they decide to chop the Rebels. If the Force were to go now, and the ARU decide to chop another team in the next broadcast agreement, it would probably be easier to merge the Brumbies and the Rebels.
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Aaah no , not a twenty year agreement , it was only ever a five year agreement - that being how long the 2016-2020 agreement with saanzar was.
 
oztimmay

oztimmay

Tony Shaw (54)
Staff member
lou75 said:
Aaah no , not a twenty year agreement , it was only ever a five year agreement - that being how long the 2016-2020 agreement with saanzar was.
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I've seen it mentioned in a few different places that it is a 20 year agreement. This is only reference I can find, whilst on the Train.

https://www.pressreader.com/australia/the-west-australian/20170417/282196535824575

Clearly, you have more inside information than I do, I'm just going on what it is in the public domain.


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Strewthcobber

Strewthcobber

Simon Poidevin (60)
Pretty sure it is a 20 year agreement, just that the first 5 years have funding agreements in place and the next 3 extensions don't. You'd imagine there'd be some room for either party to get out in 2020


“Cox is understood to have been granted three more unfunded extensions, each of five years, before the club passes into perpetuity.

The funding arrangement expires after five years and Cox will get what every other Super Rugby club gets,” said Pulver. “But we chose to go with him because he has a proven record of turning distressed businesses around. We desperately want him to be a success. He can become a role model for other entrepreneurs.”
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James Pettifer

James Pettifer

Jim Clark (26)
Mr Wobbly said:
I suspect that many of the great minds behind Australian rugby want to scrap the NRC and go back to three Super teams. National footprint? A Sydney wide footprint is too big for their thinking.

My theory for the shift in media attention is much simpler. I think that the press went as far as they could talking about the Force and it started to get boring. They tried to fire up talk of a Melbourne-Canberra merger and it was shot down pretty quickly. Now the focus has switched to us. There hasn't been any actual news coming out but the commentators need to commentate.
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Drop the Rebels now and move the Force to Western Sydney. Wait a couple of years for the Brumbies to go completely bankrupt and then they can be dropped and perhaps moved to North Shore Sydney with the Waratahs becoming Eastern Sydney. Now just to work out how to get rid of the Reds so that South Sydney can have a team ....
 
GoMelbRebels

GoMelbRebels

Nicholas Shehadie (39)
James Pettifer said:
Drop the Rebels now and move the Force to Western Sydney. Wait a couple of years for the Brumbies to go completely bankrupt and then they can be dropped and perhaps moved to North Shore Sydney with the Waratahs becoming Eastern Sydney. Now just to work out how to get rid of the Reds so that South Sydney can have a team ..
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The ARU have now read this and are putting this into play.
 
blues recovery

blues recovery

Billy Sheehan (19)
The highly credentialed Manager of the ARU High Performance unit
You know the one that overseas such huge success stories as the Under 20s program and the 7s team . Read the article quoting him on the so called Coaches summit .
I have never heard such drivel . These blokes just continue to set knew records in inadequacy
 
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