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Queensland Reds 2025

Ignoto

John Hipwell (52)
probably isn't much room for a larger deal and he can likely get a good bump going overseas,
It'll be interesting as we're going to have some cash with Mason going and at this point, you can't be offering big bucks to Henry. There should surely be some cash to throw his way?

He's been one of the guys who have actually stood up over the last couple months. I was really skeptical in the beginning but he's been making his involvements count.
 

Wilson

John Eales (66)
It'll be interesting as we're going to have some cash with Mason going and at this point, you can't be offering big bucks to Henry. There should surely be some cash to throw his way?

He's been one of the guys who have actually stood up over the last couple months. I was really skeptical in the beginning but he's been making his involvements count.
Mason won't have been on much more than a base deal, there's no way to really redirect that. There might be more money from Henry but we need to make sure we're covered at 12 and 15 before we can spend that on a bigger contract for a winger.
 

Strewthcobber

Michael Lynagh (62)
The Reds probably have had to stump up extra for Daugunu and LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto) too (maybe Canham, although his deal was a bit different) as RA were covering some of the Red's costs this year
 

Wilson

John Eales (66)
It may not be too bad in the end for those guys - I don't believe Daugunu and Salakaia-Loto were on wallabies top ups under their Rebels deals, so while the RA portion for Rebels contracts ended, it sounds like they've both earned Wallabies top ups again which will cover at least some of that increase.
 

Spamnoodle

Bill Watson (15)
It'll be interesting as we're going to have some cash with Mason going and at this point, you can't be offering big bucks to Henry. There should surely be some cash to throw his way?

He's been one of the guys who have actually stood up over the last couple months. I was really skeptical in the beginning but he's been making his involvements count.

He's also the only player to play every game apparently.
He's a must keep in my opinion
 

SouthernX

John Thornett (49)
Who are the next best guys in Hospital Cup? Got to be some bloke who can Prop better than the idea of forcing a Hooker to do it.

Curious but isn’t the idea of centralisation mean we can pluck someone out of Shute shield or off another super rugby roster like what happened with Pone joining Tahs mid season last year?

I’m sure there’s someone ready to step up from QPR but super rugby would be better suited with another super rugby joker type contract when it comes to props
 

Quicktapsonly

Chris McKivat (8)
Curious but isn’t the idea of centralisation mean we can pluck someone out of Shute shield or off another super rugby roster like what happened with Pone joining Tahs mid season last year?

I’m sure there’s someone ready to step up from QPR but super rugby would be better suited with another super rugby joker type contract when it comes to props
Kailea from the Tahs wouldn’t hurt.
 

Wilson

John Eales (66)
Curious but isn’t the idea of centralisation mean we can pluck someone out of Shute shield or off another super rugby roster like what happened with Pone joining Tahs mid season last year?

I’m sure there’s someone ready to step up from QPR but super rugby would be better suited with another super rugby joker type contract when it comes to props
Aside from the fact that we're not signed up to "centralisation" that's not really the point or goal of it, despite the fact that it's what media and fans seem to focus and speculate on whenever it's brought up.

Beyond that though, I don't believe competition structures would allow for a player loan from one super side to another for the finals, at least not having happened this late in the season. A medical joker signing should be fine (I believe the measure is two players in one position ruled out for the rest of the season and you can bring someone in) but freedom to move players between clubs come finals time is not a door we want to open, and would only serve to further devalue the competition.

If we really want an experienced pro (as opposed to the next cab of the rank in QPR) then we should probably look for a short term loan from a bottom table prem or URC team. Newcastle Falcons or Dragons are the probably the best bet, given they're completely wiped out and under financial strain. Ideally though, we'd be able to get Scott Sio from Exeter who are 2nd last in the prem and can't move up or down, but realistically it'd be a 3rd/4th string in need of game time. Also I think he might be injured.
 

The Ghost of Raelene

Phil Kearns (64)
Curious but isn’t the idea of centralisation mean we can pluck someone out of Shute shield or off another super rugby roster like what happened with Pone joining Tahs mid season last year?

I’m sure there’s someone ready to step up from QPR but super rugby would be better suited with another super rugby joker type contract when it comes to props
In a perfect world the answer is still only maybe... The Super Rugby sides are more likely to protect their own guys regardless. Be like telling your kids to give a crayon to one of the others. We're under the same roof but they can go and get ....

I just think for the Reds right now if you need someone to hold up a scrum you could get more competitive minutes out of an older Clubbie then a guy like King right now. Bo Abra with Hunter is one of those names...
 

Strewthcobber

Michael Lynagh (62)
Isn't the lesson out of a few teams recently (eg Tahs last year) is that clubbies thrown into to pro rugby scrums just end up injured in almost no time at all
 

The Ghost of Raelene

Phil Kearns (64)
When you need them to have long stints sure but with less teams there are more floating around with Super Rugby squad experience as well.

There were also a few just play a couple of games and trotted off the the MLR fine.

Bo Abra, Brad Amituanai, Olly Adkins are three I can think of floating around with pro rugby experience. I'm sure there's the same in the Hospital Cup.
 

Wilson

John Eales (66)
Isn't the lesson out of a few teams recently (eg Tahs last year) is that clubbies thrown into to pro rugby scrums just end up injured in almost no time at all
I think thrown in is a big part of it - a week or two pro training into a debut is a real problem for a prop. Possibly that means King is the best bet with significant time in and around the squad or maybe someone like Ollie Harris has spent enough time with the team now to be ready to go, but it's not really clear. It is at least a bit better at this end of the season with the club game having been under way for a while, versus the start when they've barely had a full pre-season.

Short term cover from a seasoned pro would be preferable though.
 

Wilson

John Eales (66)
When you need them to have long stints sure but with less teams there are more floating around with Super Rugby squad experience as well.

There were also a few just play a couple of games and trotted off the the MLR fine.

Bo Abra, Brad Amituanai, Olly Adkins are three I can think of floating around with pro rugby experience. I'm sure there's the same in the Hospital Cup.
Harry Lloyd was, but I'm not sure he's still going around. Easts have Jetrhro Felemi and Angus Wagner, both with a fair bit of experience to their names. George Francis has also threatened to make super rugby for years, but I'm not sure he could make the jump without decent time in a pro environment in the immediate lead up. There are probably a few more but I'm not as up on the club scene this year.

The potential problem with any of these guys is that they may have signed deals to head to overseas and they may not be willing to jeopardize them on a short term injury cover contract.
 

SouthernX

John Thornett (49)
I don’t have a problem with super rugby teams drawing from their own talent pools.

But in terms of props - it could make or break a deep run to the finals if some inexperienced prop is on skates most of game. A prop injury crisis is way more devastating then any other position in rugby.

Given this dilemma - I think I’d take the veteran who couldn’t pass a beep test who knows how to scrum over the talented fit young prop colt who is not ready for super rugby but may provide better work rate then the older head.
 

Tomikin

Michael Lynagh (62)
This discussion comes back to what I suggested at the start of the season: each team should nominate a THP LHP Hooker in their squad who can be called on by other teams if required.

Not saying anyone available, but wouldn't it be better to get a reserve Brumby/Tah/Force prop in to help the Reds then scraping the barrel. I know it would be a bit like kissing your sister for the clubs, but for the betterment of Australian Rugby....
 
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