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Quade Cooper trial - the result

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Scarfman

Knitter of the Scarf
daz and co, I think you're jumping the gun in assuming that it was blood money.

There's a lot we don't know. But again - and I'm trying to be fair to QC (Quade Cooper) here - it doesn't seem right IF mediation and/or settlement can get make a criminal case go away.

Anyway - it needs to be said at some point that I've heard a few rumours that indicate that QC (Quade Cooper)'s defence was going to be pretty solid. Maybe they've all looked at the evidence, and decided that it wasn't worth going to court.
 
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daz

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daz and co, I think you're jumping the gun in assuming that it was blood money.

sorry Scarfy, but I was in no way inferring that this was blood money. I have no opinion on what it is.

I was simply stating that the idea of the rich and powerful paying someone off is hardly new. I did not infer QC (Quade Cooper) was doing this at all.
 

Lance Free

Arch Winning (36)
I think you're onto something, Lance. With Quade, proving intent might have been considered too daunting a task.

I don't normally play the man, but at my age you learn never to waste a good line.

Boom boom - you may have a point Bruce, after all, he is from Tokoroa.

I don't want to appear as though I know it all but he got off because he presented evidence that his drink was spiked, backed up by a blood test (amongst other things), thereby providing 'proof' that an 'intent' could not be formed. The facts of the case were allegedly proven regarding the physical aspects of the break and enter. He was also found in possession of the stolen property.

The 'mediation' was over whether the 'drink spiking' evidence was accepted or not by the prosecution, and other aspects (i.e. dealing with the complainants). Hence the withdrawal of the charge after this was accepted as an essential ingredient of the case was negated.

PS The reason I know this is because I spoke with someone today who was legally connected with the case, I hasten to add not the barrister who appeared for him previously.
 
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TOCC

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Let's talk about the ionosphere.... Theres another subject in which everyone has no idea what they are talking about.... Boom tish
 

Lance Free

Arch Winning (36)
The ionosphere is the uppermost part of the atmosphere, between the thermosphere and the exosphere, distinguished because it is ionized by solar radiation.

Did you know that it plays an important part in atmospheric electricity and forms the inner edge of the magnetosphere? It has practical importance because, among other functions, it influences radio propagation to distant places on the Earth.

So there....
 

Scarfman

Knitter of the Scarf
Did you find out about Quade with Wikipedia, too?

If your tip-off is reliable Lance, it presents me with some doubts about the appropriateness of mediation. I don't think it should be up to anyone but a judge and jury to decide whether drink spiking is a credible defence for a fairly serious crime.

Oh well, at least we've got our gun flyhalf back. :D
 

cyclopath

George Smith (75)
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Did you find out about Quade with Wikipedia, too?

If your tip-off is reliable Lance, it presents me with some doubts about the appropriateness of mediation. I don't think it should be up to anyone but a judge and jury to decide whether drink spiking is a credible defence for a fairly serious crime.

Oh well, at least we've got our gun flyhalf back. :D

But where do you find out about Wikipedia??
But seriously, none of us really know what went on, and all else is unhelpful speculation. Mediation is a perfectly valid process, and without it the court system would stagnate. Maybe it was appropriately used here too.
 

Lance Free

Arch Winning (36)
I know where you're coming from Scarfie but, like plea bargaining, the justice system has become somewhat Amercianised over time. I think if it's a system that's credible and it works it's probably a positive.

The source was pretty good. I wouldn't have put it up if I didn't think it was kosher. Not like that crap 'alleging' the former Wests boys' involvement etc
 

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
A lot of nasty things were said about a person who has been found guilty of nothing!

Like the former NSW Minister of Transport who was filmed by Channel 7 attending an establishment called "Kens of Kensington" which is apparently some form of gay mans nightclub.
As a consequence of this being out in the media, the Minister resigned.
He did nothing illegal. His actions did not impact on his ability to perform as a Minister (although it begs the question as to his judgement).
Some may feel that he was doing something immoral. (Hmmm, are any politicians not immoral?).
He is not the first polly to cheat on his wife, and will not be the last.

The moral of my story: Lots of nasty things are frequently directed, with mud sticking in many cases, towards the innocent. One does not have to be proven guilty before the judiciary for the "know it alls" in our society to allocate their own personal guilty finding, frequently in complete ignorance of any or all of the facts of the situation. Sad indictment on all of us really.
 

RugbyReg

Rocky Elsom (76)
Staff member
The Courier Mail is suggesting (well, reporting) that a 5 figure compensation payment was made for the 2 computers, the door and for 'stress' from the high profile case.
 

Scarfman

Knitter of the Scarf
Well, if the Courier Mail is correct, I think that is outrageous. One fucking law for the rich and famous, another fucking law for Aboriginal kids.
 

Scarfman

Knitter of the Scarf
The best lesson to come out of this is that even if you are a Pacific Islander, and have silly hair, you too can rise above the law if you work hard and earn lots of money.
 

spectator

Bob Davidson (42)
There's no doubt something silly happened that night however, he's been through due process and a ton of media scrutiny and is now out the other side. Everyone should just move on.

Unfortunately for QC (Quade Cooper), he seems to be someone you either love or hate, with plenty in both camps by the tone of forum comments. I'm a massive fan of Quade Cooper the rugby player and I'm looking for ward to watch him ripping it up in the Tri Nations.
 
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RedsHappy

Tony Shaw (54)
There's no doubt something silly happened that night however, he's been through due process and a ton of media scrutiny and is now out the other side. Everyone should just move on. Unfortunately for QC (Quade Cooper), he seems to be someone you either love or hate, with plenty in both camps by the tone of forum comments. I'm a massive fan of Quade Cooper the rugby player and I'm looking for ward to watch him ripping it up in the Tri Nations.

Yes. It's also disappointing that, on the one hand, we can have a GAGR post essay yesterday effectively condemning the broader culture and poor value system of League, yet right here we have no less than 59 posts most of which are determined to speculate wildly, judgementally, harshly, and without any factual verification whatsoever as to the motives, honesty, private behaviour, ethics etc of one of our best players whom has been found guilty of nothing and where all claims against him, police and otherwise, have been fully withdrawn as part of a formally over-sighted, court approved, process.

Let's just be sure that if we are willing to condemn other institutions, codes, persons, whatever, we apply a consistent and fair set of values and have respect for facts vs speculative gossip and unverified media reports.
 
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